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House Passes Measure to Repeal and Replace the Affordable Care Act

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Well, republicans in the house managed to force the revised AHCA through!

The House on Thursday narrowly approved a bill to repeal and replace major parts of the Affordable Care Act, as Republicans recovered from their earlier failures and moved a step closer to delivering their promise to reshape American health care without mandated insurance coverage.
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Many of the defenders of the bill focused not so much on its details but on the shortcomings of the Affordable Care Act.
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Seems like a terrible bill to me. They're dramatically reducing access to health coverage to tens of millions of Americans.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/05/...tentID=65249735&pgtype=Homepage&_r=0&referer=
 
This will come back to haunt the morons that voted for this.
 
I would comment but I have no idea what the bill is. So far I can just assume it is a break for the rich and a punch in the nose to the lower classes.
 
Good ... now the Hot-Potato is passed on to the Senate :lol:
 
Absentglare said:
Well, republicans in the house managed to force the revised AHCA through!



Seems like a terrible bill to me. They're dramatically reducing access to health coverage to tens of millions of Americans.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/05/...tentID=65249735&pgtype=Homepage&_r=0&referer=
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Ya have to at least acknowledge that it takes a set of balls to try and repeal even some of an entitlement knowing the assault that's coming from the Democrat Party and their megaphone.
 
Zombie Trumpcare will not pass the Senate.
 
The House GOP has just betrayed disabled people by undoing decades of bi-partisan reform and civil rights.

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bubbabgone said:
Ya have to at least acknowledge that it takes a set of balls to try and repeal even some of an entitlement knowing the assault that's coming from the Democrat Party and their megaphone.
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Their megaphone? Are not 95 % of the counties red?
Who will we blame now?
 


The MacArthur amendment was designed to get the far right heritage foundation wackos onboard. They wrote an amendment that allows for states to waive the preexisting conditions clause and throw people into high risk pools. Moderates can't get on board with that because, their constituency would hate it. So.......

Upton wrote an amendment to get the moderate republicans on board. The Upton amendment adds another 8 billion to the high risk pool fund, estimates say that 8 billion will only cover another 76,000 people.

The Center for American Progress found that the $130 billion of funding already in the AHCA would be insufficient to sustain even a small high-risk pool. Supposing the size of the pool was about 5 percent of the small-group and individual markets, the AHCA would need to provide a total of $327 billion to offer moderately subsidized high-risk pool coverage for those 1.5 million people. The current version of the AHCA falls $200 billion short of that, and the $8 billion promised to House Republican moderates would fill in just 4 percent of the funding gap.
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It's not enough money. People are going to be left without insurance. If you have cancer and you have a gap in coverage, sure you'll have access to coverage that costs 6 million dollars a year. They're screwing America. They passed a healthcare bill that reduces coverage for Americans and increases premiums and deductibles on the old and sick. It's the classic Republican mentality of, I've got mines, and everyone I know is rich, so screw everyone else. Iphones or hip replacement, you choose.

https://www.americanprogress.org/is...ndment-aca-repeal-bill-will-almost-no-effect/

EDIT: Fred Upton is MY congressman. I live in a gerrymandered part of MI. They take a huge slice of my city out and include it in all the rural areas around to water down the freedom hating liberals.
 
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The House passed a health care bill on Thursday that would repeal and replace major parts of the Affordable Care Act.

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https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/05/04/us/politics/100000005079894.mobile.html
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<*sigh*>

Not having learned anything from the Democratic experience with ObamaCare, that legislation with such impact on the electorate should really be bi-partisan supported as a bill as well as bi-partisan supported as a law, it is now the Republican's turn to own that which follows all on their own.

Well, let's see how this works over the course of the next few years. Perhaps next time it'll be a bi-partisan effort.
 
Winston said:


The MacArthur amendment was designed to get the far right heritage foundation wackos onboard. They wrote an amendment that allows for states to waive the preexisting conditions clause and throw people into high risk pools. Moderates can't get on board with that because, their constituency would hate it. So.......

Upton wrote an amendment to get the moderate republicans on board. The Upton amendment adds another 8 billion to the high risk pool fund, estimates say that 8 billion will only cover another 76,000 people.



It's not enough money. People are going to be left without insurance. They made the AHCA worse than what it was and the Upton amendment is an excuse they can use to tell you they cover preexisting conditions.
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$8 Billion over 5 years is $5 dollars per person per year..... If you limit it to just people with prexisting conditions (1/4 Americans) that's over $20 per year! Who knew health care could be fixed so cheaply!
 
watch this and see how it will be seen on main street:
 
Mithros said:
$8 Billion over 5 years is $5 dollars per person per year..... If you limit it to just people with prexisting conditions (1/4 Americans) that's over $20 per year! Who knew health care could be fixed so cheaply!
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Don't be surprised if passed, the AHCA takes effect after the midterms 2018.
 
Democrats either argue "it will kill the children", or they argue "it will keep us from killing the children."

Hyperbole and hypocrisy rule the day on this.
 
Republican voters - you own this. Remember that.
 
Winston said:


The MacArthur amendment was designed to get the far right heritage foundation wackos onboard. They wrote an amendment that allows for states to waive the preexisting conditions clause and throw people into high risk pools. Moderates can't get on board with that because, their constituency would hate it. So.......

Upton wrote an amendment to get the moderate republicans on board. The Upton amendment adds another 8 billion to the high risk pool fund, estimates say that 8 billion will only cover another 76,000 people.



It's not enough money. People are going to be left without insurance. If you have cancer and you have a gap in coverage, sure you'll have access to coverage that costs 6 million dollars a year. They're screwing America. They passed a healthcare bill that reduces coverage for Americans and increases premiums and deductibles on the old and sick. It's the classic Republican mentality of, I've got mind, and everyone I know is rich, so screw everyone else. Iphones or hip replacement, you choose.

https://www.americanprogress.org/is...ndment-aca-repeal-bill-will-almost-no-effect/

EDIT: Fred Upton is MY congressman. I live in a gerrymandered part of MI. They take a huge slice of my city out and include it in all the rural areas around to water down the freedom hating liberals.
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The GOP is constantly screwing the little guy, and the working people, but the GOP is smart. They'll keep spewing hate at Mexicans and Muslims, keep screaming the Dems want to take all your guns away and keep bitching about gays.. So their base will STILL vote Republican. Nothing will ever get better for the working class and Middle Class in this country until the Republican moderate voter wakes up and starts voting for THEIR OWN ECONOMIC INTERESTS and takes their party back.
 
If the republicans where smart they would go even more liberal then the democrates and just removed health insurance all together. Call it MEDICAR for all. Double everyones tax into medicare. All citizens get access to affordable health care. All hospitals and doctors go into county municiple health orginizations and get paid hourly. Anyone whos not a citizen can get minimum life saving care from hospitals.
 
Elections have consequences and Democrats should thank the GOP for this.
ObamaCare turned into a massive political albatross for that party
 
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