Honors student sues because she can't read or write

[Josie]

I taught middle school for years and I could tell you in a minute who is extraordinary and who is average and who is below average.

I can’t. You cannot tell at first glance how every student processes information or how intelligent they are

The fact that she use the translator app, shows a dishonesty.

No, it shows she’s resourceful. She was trying to do the work the best she could.

But she couldn’t use the app when she took the SATs.. She couldn’t use the app when she took tests in the classroom.. this sounds like a bullshit story

We don’t know that she even took the SATs. Students with disabilities usually have accommodations on state tests if they are taking them too. Lots of missing info here.

 

[Josie]

Honestly, sad to say, but I can only think of two really good sped teachers since I started teaching. The others ranged from average to OMG WTF.

 

[renee]

I can’t. You cannot tell at first glance how every student processes information or how intelligent they are



No, it shows she’s resourceful. She was trying to do the work the best she could.



We don’t know that she even took the SATs. Students with disabilities usually have accommodations on state tests if they are taking them too. Lots of missing info here.

If they are passing my tests in the same amount of time as the rest of the class, they don’t have a processing information problem.. I have had very bright kids who failed tests and I referred them to special ed to be tested..
If she went to college, she took the SATs…. Students with disabilities like hers are rarely top of the class..

 

[renee]

Honestly, sad to say, but I can only think of two really good sped teachers since I started teaching. The others ranged from average to OMG WTF.

A very, very famous person was one of my students, and she talks about me in just about every interview. Another wonderful experience was 16kids that I taught 40 years ago Found me on Facebook and we met in New York and they gave me a beautiful plaque.
Do you ever wonder what these teachers say about you?

 

[stealthycat]

Well, “honors” might mean something different since she’s a special education student.

I'm reading more on this

not speak English well. That's a huge problem. "Ortiz said she used apps to translate text-to-speech and speech-to-text to complete her assignments."

Trump should move right now to make English our official language - catering to everyone is a disaster

""I'm a very passionate person and I like to learn," Ortiz shared. "People took (away) that opportunity for me to learn, and now I'm in college and I wanna take advantage of that. Because this is my education.""

BS - she wasn't passionate about it. She cruised because she could.

Liberals have always wanted to push people forward through schools who should never be pushed forward. She's admittedly a "bad student"


Her parents knew, she knew. I don't know how much the schools knew but they "Aleysha says her teachers mostly just passed her from one grade to the next in elementary and middle school. But by the time she reached high school she’d figured out how to use the technology to fulfill her assignments."

That's what schools do because of standardizations set by Fed Govt.



look, I'm very familiar with ADD/ADHD, I am tied in to dyslexia and reading interventions. I know how teachers want to help, I know how parents ignore, and I know the administrations that want to push kids through because its about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and numbers

#1 problem here? Not speaking English. Her parents failed her. She failed herself. How much is the school to blame for a kid not speaking English with family who don't, and a kid that acts up and is a bad student. She's enrolled in UConn ? who is paying for that? how'd she get high enough scores for that ?

For the 2024–2025 academic year, tuition and fees for full-time undergraduate students at the University of Connecticut's Hartford campus are $17,010 for Connecticut residents and $39,678 for non-residents
she needs to NOT be enrolled in college, and spend a semester learning English and conquering what made her a bad/troubled student and whatever learning issues she might have


I'd suggest https://www.usm.edu/dubard/index.php


I would not suggest making $$$$$$$$$$ from a stupid lawsuit - but I bet liberals love for her to

 

[renee]

High school graduate suing Connecticut city says she can’t read or write

Aleysha Ortiz claims she asked for educational resources and support for years, but that help never came.

www.newsnationnow.com

@BirdinHand

I don’t think it makes it worse. They identified her and put her in sped classes which is what they’re legally supposed to do. If she can prove that her IEP wasn’t followed correctly, she has a case. It sounds like she had a horrible sped teacher for at least part of her time there.

How can an honor student not read or write
I reread the article and she was in special ed. Obviously she was doing very well so how does the teacher realize there is something wrong when you are at the top of your class?

 

[stealthycat]

so ya'll are saying she was a kid (under 18) and that she wasn't adult enough/responsible enough to have control over her education ?

 

[ttwtt78640]

If they are passing my tests in the same amount of time as the rest of the class, they don’t have a processing information problem.. I have had very bright kids who failed tests and I referred them to special ed to be tested..
If she went to college, she took the SATs…. Students with disabilities like hers are rarely top of the class..

That (bolded above) is doubtful.

UConn will remain test optional through Fall 2026

The University of Connecticut is staying test optional through the Fall 2026 semester. This is as a result of data showing that the university’s applicant pool has become more diverse and that test scores are not needed to predict student success.

dailycampus.com

 

[renee]

again, BS

when you're asked to read assignments in your sophomore, junior and senior years and you can't do it ? you KNOW you can't .... that's on you too

college they don't coddle as much, you have to do the work .... she's not able because (in part) she cruised through high school without learning/knowing any more than she had to

there is a personal responsibility there too

when her parents helped her read, did they never notice? when they were helping with school work etc they didn't notice ?

I am sure she told her parents because she supposedly cried to everyone, why didn’t her parents get her tested?

 

[stealthycat]

I am sure she told her parents because she supposedly cried to everyone, why didn’t her parents get her tested?

allegedly cried

my guess? her parents just didn't care much. Mine didn't care anything about my grades. I could have quit high school and they'd not have cared much, just wasn't something they cared about


how did UConn @ Hartford accept her ?

Students that get into have an average SAT score between 1000-1230 or an average ACT score of 21-28. The regular admissions application deadline for is May 1.


That's pretty good scores for someone who got no education in public schools isn't it ? Can't read/write but does really well on testing? Sounds like standardized testing for schools have produced EXACTLY what liberals have wanted - kids testing really well. Right ?

 

[ttwtt78640]

allegedly cried

my guess? her parents just didn't care much. Mine didn't care anything about my grades. I could have quit high school and they'd not have cared much, just wasn't something they cared about


how did UConn @ Hartford accept her ?

Students that get into have an average SAT score between 1000-1230 or an average ACT score of 21-28. The regular admissions application deadline for is May 1.


That's pretty good scores for someone who got no education in public schools isn't it ? Can't read/write but does really well on testing? Sounds like standardized testing for schools have produced EXACTLY what liberals have wanted - kids testing really well. Right ?

UConn doesn’t require testing, welcome to the wonders of DEI.

While describing this inequity, Donaldson said “it’s just a host of different factors; it’s hard to disentangle and say that one factor is the leading factor, but there’s a very strong correlation between family income and SAT scores.” Students with learning disabilities are also more likely to benefit from UConn remaining test optional because even with accommodations, their GPA and a portfolio are likely to paint them in a better light than their test scores.

UConn will remain test optional through Fall 2026

The University of Connecticut is staying test optional through the Fall 2026 semester. This is as a result of data showing that the university’s applicant pool has become more diverse and that test scores are not needed to predict student success.

dailycampus.com

 

[Josie]

If they are passing my tests in the same amount of time as the rest of the class, they don’t have a processing information problem..

I'm not talking about just passing tests. It takes more than a cursory glance around to know how intelligent your students are.

I have had very bright kids who failed tests and I referred them to special ed to be tested..
If she went to college, she took the SATs…. Students with disabilities like hers are rarely top of the class..

Again, we don't know that she took the SATs. And it doesn't say she's top of the class or even close to it.

 

[Josie]

A very, very famous person was one of my students, and she talks about me in just about every interview. Another wonderful experience was 16kids that I taught 40 years ago Found me on Facebook and we met in New York and they gave me a beautiful plaque.
Do you ever wonder what these teachers say about you?

No.

 

[Josie]

I am sure she told her parents because she supposedly cried to everyone, why didn’t her parents get her tested?

She was tested. She had an IEP and was in special education.

 

[ttwtt78640]

I'm not talking about just passing tests. It takes more than a cursory glance around to know how intelligent your students are.



Again, we don't know that she took the SATs. And it doesn't say she's top of the class or even close to it.

Hmm… what does “graduated with honors” mean?

 

[Josie]

Hmm… what does “graduated with honors” mean?

Who knows? Lots of unknowns in the story.

 

[ttwtt78640]

Who knows? Lots of unknowns in the story.

Evidently her grades were good enough to get her into UConn.

 

[Josie]

Evidently her grades were good enough to get her into UConn.

Well, her IEP allowed her accommodations. I'm sure speech-to-text for writing papers was one of them along with other things.

Several years back we had a college student come visit out school. She was in the education program at her college. She was observing in a kindergarten class and the teacher asked her if she wanted to do the read aloud that day. She told the teacher she'd have to take the book home and practice first.

 

[ttwtt78640]

Well, her IEP allowed her accommodations. I'm sure speech-to-text for writing papers was one of them along with other things.

Several years back we had a college student come visit out school. She was in the education program at her college. She was observing in a kindergarten class and the teacher asked her if she wanted to do the read aloud that day. She told the teacher she'd have to take the book home and practice first.

That’s a sad story, but shows what ‘social promotion’ (a form of DEI?) has led to.

 

[stealthycat]

UConn doesn’t require testing, welcome to the wonders of DEI.

UConn will remain test optional through Fall 2026

The University of Connecticut is staying test optional through the Fall 2026 semester. This is as a result of data showing that the university’s applicant pool has become more diverse and that test scores are not needed to predict student success.

dailycampus.com

so the fact she got to college age and can't read/write well HELPED her get a scholarship to UCONN ?

 

[ttwtt78640]

so the fact she got to college age and can't read/write well HELPED her get a scholarship to UCONN ?

WTF? How did you reach the conclusion that she got a scholarship to UConn?

 

[stealthycat]

WTF? How did you reach the conclusion that she got a scholarship to UConn?

you're right, maybe she's paying for it all herself and her immigrant parents. $20,000 a year isn't much .... of course, still gotta score high enough on ACT's and SAT's and not being able to read/write would impact that I'd think

but schools do teach test taking - its not about reading anymore. did ya'll not know that ?

AI Overview

According to recent data from the National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP), around two-thirds of students in the United States are not reading at a proficient level, meaning approximately 66% of children are not proficient readers.

Biennial testing through NAEP consistently shows that two thirds of U.S. children are unable to read with proficiency. An astounding 40 percent are essentially nonreaders.Sep 26, 2023




Why? because kids in the 1st grade and 2nd grades on are not focused on it. Its math and science they're focused on so they can take tests well.

 

[renee]

you're right, maybe she's paying for it all herself and her immigrant parents. $20,000 a year isn't much .... of course, still gotta score high enough on ACT's and SAT's and not being able to read/write would impact that I'd think

but schools do teach test taking - its not about reading anymore. did ya'll not know that ?

AI Overview

According to recent data from the National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP), around two-thirds of students in the United States are not reading at a proficient level, meaning approximately 66% of children are not proficient readers.

Biennial testing through NAEP consistently shows that two thirds of U.S. children are unable to read with proficiency. An astounding 40 percent are essentially nonreaders.Sep 26, 2023




Why? because kids in the 1st grade and 2nd grades on are not focused on it. Its math and science they're focused on so they can take tests well.

What could be worse than passing tests in math and science?(Sarcasm )
My fear is that it is only going to get worse. Years ago, the best and brightest teachers were women who didn’t have manyoptions. Now these same women are going into better paying professions.. We have to pay teachers more …a lot more.

 

[renee]

Well, her IEP allowed her accommodations. I'm sure speech-to-text for writing papers was one of them along with other things.

Several years back we had a college student come visit out school. She was in the education program at her college. She was observing in a kindergarten class and the teacher asked her if she wanted to do the read aloud that day. She told the teacher she'd have to take the book home and practice first.

Oh, so you think she couldn’t read the book ?….or perhaps she wanted to be able to read it at a kindergarten level and wanted to practice. You think she really couldn’t read a child’s book? Talk about jumping to conclusions lol

 

[renee]

She was tested. She had an IEP and was in special education.

And obviously, she did very well in the class so the teacher must’ve been doing a good job.