Honors student sues because she can't read or write

[noonereal]

Babysitters get about five dollars an hour. A teacher has 30 kids in a class so she should get. $150 an hour after all, she is babysitting your children as well as educating them..

Stupid thing they said. Must have been a teacher.

 

[noonereal]

Do you say that about accountants who make about triple that? Do you say that about lawyers who make about four times what teachers make but big deal a teacher’s job isn’t important…. they only educate our children for the future.. if you cared about children, you would want their teachers who have to deal with 30 in a classroom to ne paid well. And then you wonder why we can’t get teachers anymore.so sad. Have you ever wondered why women dominated professions get paid less than male dominated professions? We are beginning to realize that teachers and nurses and secretaries and social workers deserve more.. My granddaughter just became a nurse at Georgetown Hospital and they gave her a $10,000 signing bonus. She is starting at about $80,000.

What school system pays women less than men?
In fact, in what profession do women get paid less than men?

None

Clue, it is 2025 not 1935.

 

[renee]

What school system pays women less than men?
In fact, in what profession do women get paid less than men?

None

Clue, it is 2025 not 1935.

WHY is IT female dominated professions that pay less. But you are right that is changing BUT not since 1935. How about from 1975.?I bet you think all these changes happened in a vacuum.. men woke up one day and said “you know I think women should have equality” LOL

 

[renee]

Stupid thing they said. Must have been a teacher.

And then you wonder why people are not going in for teaching. It is people who are not educated who bash teachers.

 

[noonereal]

WHY is IT female dominated professions that pay less. But you are right that is changing BUT not since 1935. How about from 1975.?I bet you think all these changes happened in a vacuum.. men woke up one day and said “you know I think women should have equality” LOL

Clue, there are no professions that exclude men or women.

The change you can thank me for. In the early 70s women wanted to join the workplace. Stating in 1975 i hired women and blacks ahead of white males.
You are welcome.

It is no longer an issue and all should be seen equal based on qualifications.

You didn't say, what companies pay women less than men for the same job?

Heck, in the 70s and 80s men were pad less than women for the same job.

 

[noonereal]

And then you wonder why people are not going in for teaching. It is people who are not educated who bash teachers.

No.
It is the educated like myself who understand the realities.
It is a cushy over paid job.

 

[Citizen]

MSN

A Connecticut student who graduated with honors in June is now suing her former high school, claiming she can't read or write and is failing college as a result of her alma mater's poor curriculum.

Aleysha Ortiz was born in Puerto Rico and moved with her family to Hartford, Connecticut, when she was 5 years old. She graduated through the school program despite reading at a kindergarten or first grade level as a sixth grader, according to reporting by CNN.


During her last month at Hartford Public High School, after she disclosed she was attending the University of Connecticut in the fall, Ortiz completed additional testing that revealed she had dyslexia and "required explicitly taught phonics, fluency and reading comprehension," the first of which is taught in kindergarten.


She's not alone. Every year we have kids going into 5th, 6th, 7th grade who never got the English phonics they needed in elementary school. And, of course, no one is going to teach them that in middle school and high school. They have good expressive English language (which she obviously does if she can "write" papers through speech-to-text programs), but lack in actually reading and writing independently.

This is a real stupid story. She will never win the law suit. She has dyslexia. Many people with dyslexia can't read or write and are provided accommodations through an IEP in grade school. She does not understand her disability. She can get the same accommodations in college.

 

[Citizen]

It's not illegal for kids to not be taught explicit phonics instruction. For years, the whole language method was used. Then it was a balance of both (Balanced Literacy). Now with the "Science of Reading" research coming out, we're swinging the pendulum back to more phonics.

It is illegal to not follow through if you suspect a LD. I wonder how involved the parents were. Did they not realize she couldn't read or write? Were they told by teachers? Were there any interventions at all?

Usually, the whole language approach is used for students with dyslexia

 

[Citizen]

Generalized.

If a student is an ELL, step 1 is sending that student a HLS.

Every single time.

How much ELL services do you need when you come to the states at 5. She probably speaks better English than her parents. I really don't beleive this story. Someone is being dishonest here.

 

[Citizen]

If the district failed to identify a disability, the district failed their OBLIGATION.

Why should she be satisfied with being denied her rights to a free and appropriate public education?

It is her legal RIGHT.

Facts not in evidence. What she will likely receive is compensatory services to take additional classes to improve her language abilities.

If she was passed from grade to grade and took standardized state test which are required in most school districts, then she probably was identified as having a disability early on. It just wasn't called dyslexia. Maybe the disability was not called dyslexia, but many students with disabilities, don't have dyslexia on their IEP. But I will bet you, she had accommodations and special help. If not, she wouldn't have made it to college. Many people with severe cases of dyslexia make it through college, especially now with the technology we have to accommodate for the inability to read words or write. I think this is a BS lawsuit that won't go anywhere.

 

[Risky Thicket]

I don't doubt this happens but this story doesn't add up.

She testified she was illiterate at a city council meeting, officials "clamored" to give her a diploma and then she was accepted to UConn? Did she get in without taking SATs or ACTs? What about her other standardized testing scores? Were they ignored by the school and her parents?

After testifying about her experience as an illiterate high school student during a May 2024 city council meeting, Ortiz said school officials began clamoring to ensure she received her diploma.

Exactly. I completely agree.

If the school system failed to teach her that is thing number one that doesn't add up.

If the University of Connecticut accepted her without taking her dyslexia and grade school accommodations into account that's thing number two that doesn't add up.

We are missing chunks of the story.

 

[TheDoctorWasIn]

Hiding kids' 'gender identity' from parents is common in blue state fighting Trump on trans issues: watchdog

If your kids don't trust you enough to tell you themselves, there's almost certainly a reason for that.

When you guys whine about it, you out yourselves.

I prefer teachers "keeping secrets" for their students much more than hearing about MAGAs beating their trans kids to death.

 

[Kelby]

Parents legally have to be invited to any conferences or IEP meetings to discuss her assessments and how she's doing in class. We don't know if they participated. So, no, schools cannot legally hide a reading or learning disability from parents.

In fact, they must sign off on it. Parents should have been informed of their child's progress in IEP goals, and whether those goals aligned with grades equivalent skills. It's very likely they did not.

 

[stealthycat]

If your kids don't trust you enough to tell you themselves, there's almost certainly a reason for that.

When you guys whine about it, you out yourselves.

I prefer teachers "keeping secrets" for their students much more than hearing about MAGAs beating their trans kids to death.

ok then - don't complain when your kid can't read or write and they hid that from you - be consistent is all I ask

 

[Josie]

In fact, they must sign off on it. Parents should have been informed of their child's progress in IEP goals, and whether those goals aligned with grades equivalent skills. It's very likely they did not.

Likely they did not sign off on it? Or the school didn't follow the goals?

 

[Josie]

How much ELL services do you need when you come to the states at 5. She probably speaks better English than her parents. I really don't beleive this story. Someone is being dishonest here.

Depends. It's fairly simple to pick up conversational English, but more difficult to pick up academic English. Plus, it's not just about speaking, but about reading, listening and writing as well which we know would've been very difficult for her. So she was probably considered at EL throughout her entire school years.

 

[Josie]

Usually, the whole language approach is used for students with dyslexia

People with dyslexia really struggle with phonemic awareness so they need explicit, intense interventions in hearing individual phonemes and groups of phonemes, blending them, manipulating them, substituting them, etc - using visuals and manipulatives. Then a strong phonics instruction should be used going step-by-step through the sounds of the English language - using all sorts of multi-sensory activities to help them. Using only the whole language approach is doing a disservice to them.

If this school yadda yadda'd her reading instruction because she can just listen to audiobooks or use speech-to-text, then they didn't do their job. Most people can learn to read no matter their learning disability.

 

[renee]

No.
It is the educated like myself who understand the realities.
It is a cushy over paid job.

I don’t believe for a minute you’re educated …..if you were you wouldn’t see it as cushy and overpaid. Who taught all those truly overpaid people?
When Johnny can’t read, we blame the teacher, but when Johnny reads brilliantly, it’s his genetics

 

[renee]

Clue, there are no professions that exclude men or women.

The change you can thank me for. In the early 70s women wanted to join the workplace. Stating in 1975 i hired women and blacks ahead of white males.
You are welcome.

It is no longer an issue and all should be seen equal based on qualifications.

You didn't say, what companies pay women less than men for the same job?

Heck, in the 70s and 80s men were pad less than women for the same job.

Ah, such simplistic thinking… I remember seeing a video about Walmart paying women less and not promoting them. In the early 70s women were not hired ahead of white males… they couldn’t even get a credit card in their own name if they were married.

 

[Citizen]

Depends. It's fairly simple to pick up conversational English, but more difficult to pick up academic English. Plus, it's not just about speaking, but about reading, listening and writing as well which we know would've been very difficult for her. So she was probably considered at EL throughout her entire school years.

No, a 5 year old can pick up new languages fairly easily. However, with her disability, it probably was difficult for her.

 

[Citizen]

People with dyslexia really struggle with phonemic awareness so they need explicit, intense interventions in hearing individual phonemes and groups of phonemes, blending them, manipulating them, substituting them, etc - using visuals and manipulatives. Then a strong phonics instruction should be used going step-by-step through the sounds of the English language - using all sorts of multi-sensory activities to help them. Using only the whole language approach is doing a disservice to them.

If this school yadda yadda'd her reading instruction because she can just listen to audiobooks or use speech-to-text, then they didn't do their job. Most people can learn to read no matter their learning disability.

Phonemic instruction usually does not work very well with dyslexic children.

 

[noonereal]

Ah, such simplistic thinking… I remember seeing a video about Walmart paying women less and not promoting them. In the early 70s women were not hired ahead of white males… they couldn’t even get a credit card in their own name if they were married.

Still living in the past i see.
I recall in the early 70 the men had to unload the trucks as the women made extra commission on the sales floor.

Of course these truths don't support your narratives.

 

[Josie]

No, a 5 year old can pick up new languages fairly easily. However, with her disability, it probably was difficult for her.

Correct.

Phonemic instruction usually does not work very well with dyslexic children.

Incorrect. One of the very best methods is Orton-Gillingham which is a very strict, systematic way to learn to read using sight, touch and sound.

 

[Josie]

I don’t believe for a minute you’re educated …..if you were you wouldn’t see it as cushy and overpaid. Who taught all those truly overpaid people?
When Johnny can’t read, we blame the teacher, but when Johnny reads brilliantly, it’s his genetics

Still nothing to say about saying that I “think low” of myself?

 

[instagramsci]

MSN

A Connecticut student who graduated with honors in June is now suing her former high school, claiming she can't read or write and is failing college as a result of her alma mater's poor curriculum.

Aleysha Ortiz was born in Puerto Rico and moved with her family to Hartford, Connecticut, when she was 5 years old. She graduated through the school program despite reading at a kindergarten or first grade level as a sixth grader, according to reporting by CNN.


During her last month at Hartford Public High School, after she disclosed she was attending the University of Connecticut in the fall, Ortiz completed additional testing that revealed she had dyslexia and "required explicitly taught phonics, fluency and reading comprehension," the first of which is taught in kindergarten.


She's not alone. Every year we have kids going into 5th, 6th, 7th grade who never got the English phonics they needed in elementary school. And, of course, no one is going to teach them that in middle school and high school. They have good expressive English language (which she obviously does if she can "write" papers through speech-to-text programs), but lack in actually reading and writing independently.

I had poor grades in high school. At the time I was told it was because I was lazy (i think most kids would have trouble managing their time when they're at school from 7am-7pm lol)

when I began seriously pursuing help with my mental health a couple years ago I was diagnosed with ADHD. i learned what ADHD can be like if not managed in an education setting. i learned what "executive dysfunction" means. and it lined up pretty well with my experience

it seems to me that multiple adults allowed her to fall through the cracks similar to the way it happened to me