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Homeowner jailed for attacking burglars who tied up family

aps said:
You don't know that. This is what my story was all about.

By punching this guy (and not causing an ounce of harm to him), I was protecting him from coming at my husband again. You have no idea how this man felt. By beating the one guy who he caught, he did protect his family from this guy coming back. You've just been tied up, watched your family get tied up, had your home violated, and been threatened with death, and you think this man should be rational? Do you have any understanding of the human mind? Yeah, I didn't think so.
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1- I do know that. His actions speak volumes.

2- By beating the one guy he caught, he left the door open for the two that escaped to return to his bound and unprotected family. What say you about that?

Spin it whichever way you want. The simple fact of the matter is that this guy wanted his pound of flesh; further jeopardizing his now unprotected family.
 
CrusaderRabbit08 said:
1- I do know that. His actions speak volumes.
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Yes, Mr. Omniscient. Sure you do. :roll:

2- By beating the one guy he caught, he left the door open for the two that escaped to return to his bound and unprotected family. What say you about that?
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What say me? I'm not saying that this guy definitely felt a certain way. I am saying that it's possible he felt he was protecting his family by chasing off the guys who broke into his home and threatened the family. Just because YOU YOU YOU YOU YOU have determined that by chasing these criminals that he left his family vulnerable does not make it so. If his house was south and these guys ran north, I think a reasonable person would not think that the two that escaped would run back into the house.

Spin it whichever way you want. The simple fact of the matter is that this guy wanted his pound of flesh; further jeopardizing his now unprotected family.
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I'm not spinning this. I am making suggestions on what could have happened here. To you, your thoughts on this subject matter are the only ones that count. Grow up.

I'm done with you. Don't bother responding.
 
aps said:
What say me? I'm not saying that this guy definitely felt a certain way. I am saying that it's possible he felt he was protecting his family by chasing off the guys who broke into his home and threatened the family. Just because YOU YOU YOU YOU YOU have determined that by chasing these criminals that he left his family vulnerable does not make it so. If his house was south and these guys ran north, I think a reasonable person would not think that the two that escaped would run back into the house.
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Well, you're the one who said:

By beating the one guy who he caught, he did protect his family from this guy coming back.
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Your logic would dictate that the two who escaped could go back. Which is it? You don't get both sides of the coin on this one.
 
Was Munir Hussain supposed to let the intruders escape?

What a stupid headline! The implication being that if he didn't beat this thug half to death that his only other option was to let him escape.

How about the option that four adult males could safely detain one bad guy without beating him up until the police arrive?
 
MyOwnDrum said:
I think the British legal system made an important statement with this ruling. Vigilante justice will not be tolerated.
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Or, it means that it is open house to all kinds of criminal activity.
 
bicycleman said:
Or, it means that it is open house to all kinds of criminal activity.
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I think the Brits have less crime than in America, statistically speaking.
 
CrusaderRabbit08 said:
Why would it be an open house?
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I think I might just go over and raid Crusader Rabbit's den because I know that if he tries to bite me, it's a given, he's going to prison. I sure am glad the British government has given me, a poor thief, carte blanche to rape and pillage the village. Thank you British justice system for allowing me, a poor thief to continue to have a job.:2razz:
 
bicycleman said:
I think I might just go over and raid Crusader Rabbit's den because I know that if he tries to bite me, it's a given, he's going to prison. I sure am glad the British government has given me, a poor thief, carte blanche to rape and pillage the village. Thank you British justice system for allowing me, a poor thief to continue to have a job.:2razz:
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I wouldn't try it, because I'm a well armed bunny ;)

You seem to labor under the misconception that Brits are no longer able to defend themselves in light of this ruling. Why is that?
 
Whip Comes Down said:
Dude, I have a beautiful wife, two beautiful daughters, a new Telecaster and I'm almost as rich as Mick Jagger. You really don't need to feel sorry for me.
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You forgot to mention the fact that you feel inadequate. That's why I feel sorry for you. I don't care how perfect you want to portray your life. It isn't perfect based on the manner in which you post.
 
CrusaderRabbit08 said:
I wouldn't try it, because I'm a well armed bunny ;)

You seem to labor under the misconception that Brits are no longer able to defend themselves in light of this ruling. Why is that?
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Oh, they're able to defend themselves as in this recent case, but it appears there are consequences if they do.
 
Whip Comes Down said:
Dude, I have a beautiful wife, two beautiful daughters, a new Telecaster and I'm almost as rich as Mick Jagger. You really don't need to feel sorry for me.
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And I am Bill Gates. I'm very rich and extremely happy with my wonderful life. :lol:
 
bicycleman said:
Oh, they're able to defend themselves as in this recent case, but it appears there are consequences if they do.
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There are only consequences when they cross the line. These guys pursued the bad guys and caught one of them. No problem so far. They detained him. Still no problem. Then they proceeded to beat him half to death. Now we have a problem. This is where they ran afoul of the law.
 
CrusaderRabbit08 said:
There are only consequences when they cross the line. These guys pursued the bad guys and caught one of them. No problem so far. They detained him. Still no problem. Then they proceeded to beat him half to death. Now we have a problem. This is where they ran afoul of the law.
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Yeah, but in an earlier post, I alluded to the fact that they were probably acting in self-defense since the burglar probably resisted arrest. Would this incident have been different had it been police pursuing the perps with their night sticks?
 
Yes. The UK police would not have addled his brain to the point that he walked free.
 
Tsunami said:
He chased him down the street and then he and his friends beat him with a cricket bat and a metal pole. That goes beyond defending yourself.
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They only held him hostage in his own home and threatened his family and his life.

Tsunami said:
I don't think this would fly here in America either.
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google: Joe Horn. Not only did it fly but it was for much less and he did the neighborhood a service.

Tsunami said:
It might be deserved and it might be (mob) justice but it doesn't follow the standards of law and order.
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Law and order is nice but it's also reactive. If you're OK with someone dying and the perpetrator getting either off with a light sentence or 3-hots and a cot and an extended stay in prison (also on your dime), then enjoy. But as for me, I will defend myself until the Police show up and I'll make damn sure that criminals know what will happen if you come into my home or threaten my family.
 
CrusaderRabbit08 said:
There are only consequences when they cross the line. These guys pursued the bad guys and caught one of them. No problem so far. They detained him. Still no problem. Then they proceeded to beat him half to death. Now we have a problem. This is where they ran afoul of the law.
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I was told by a respected Attorney, that in a situation like this, be sure there is only one witness to the event when it comes before the Court. ---You
 
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