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Holocaust Denial and Minimization[W:123, 876]

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Scott said:
Good grief. I linked to an article about it...

Einsatzgruppen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


...and I said it may totally reflect reality, be exaggerated and distorted, or be total BS. It's all second-hand info so how can it be verified?

Now answer my question.
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I guess we can say the same thing about slave plantation owners. It's all second hand info; can't be verified. But, we do not. And, to think, we don't even have first-hand pictures of those guys like we do SS troops.
 
Speaking of pictures, I just read about this term, Genickschußspezialisten, (neck-shot specialists), who must of operated in places like this:

Genickschussanlage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



But, I guess it could all just be made up nonsense by the jewish conspiracy. /s
 
Where did all the gold teeth in the Merkser mine come from?
 
What question? The post that Scott linked to was a thorough refutation of denier nonsense.
 
Scott said:
This is mainstream info so it may or may not reflect reality.
Einsatzgruppen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It may totally reflect reality. It may have been exaggerated, or it may be a total fabrication; I don't see how we can verify it if all we have is second-hand info.


Now please answer my question. Your credibility is on the line here.
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Scott... you have still failed to respond to any of my challenges. Due to this, you have demonstrated dishonesty and a lack of integrity. Let's examine the post above. Tell us why you linked to a Wikipedia article when the article itself has SCORES of primary sources validating the existence of the Einsatzgruppen. This is why you are nothing but a holocaust DENIER who depends on confirmation bias for all of his arguments.
 
Scott said:
Hey calamity...

This question is for you too.

(post #718)
http://www.debatepolitics.com/consp...d-minimization-w-123-a-72.html#post1064651816


I'm still waiting for you to answer the question Fledermaus.
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Hey Scott... why don't you post the actual sequence so everyone can see that you are lying about your accusation. I didn't comment on what you posted. I comment on HOW you posted. Show them the sequence so we can have further confirmation of your lack of integrity.
 
Hey Scott... why don't you post the actual sequence so everyone can see that you are lying about your accusation. I didn't comment on what you posted. I comment on HOW you posted. Show them the sequence so we can have further confirmation of your lack of integrity.
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I was sure my links went back to this. They didn't and I had to go look for it again but here it is.

(post #232)
http://www.debatepolitics.com/conspiracy-theories/223723-everything-learned-ww-ii-lie-24.html
I think I talked about this somewhere else on this forum but I can't remember where so here it is again.


A confirmed lie that Americans are taught is that the German soldiers and people had world conquest on their minds as the war was going on. Listen to these two speeches of Hitler's.
https://www.youtube.com/results?sea...s+Reasons+For+Invading+The+Soviet+Union&sm=12
https://www.youtube.com/results?sea...r: Explains Reasons For Invading Poland&sm=12

It seems that the German people believed, perhaps wrongly, that they were righting old wrongs and defending Western Europe from a Soviet takeover. If there is one lie, there may be more, right?
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Wrong, and that is the logical fallacy that you and all other conspiracy theorists based their completely flawed positions on. They find ONE error, and because of that, they then claim that there are lots of other errors. This is a non sequitur and is the logical fallacy that your entire posting history is based upon.
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Hey zyzygy...

Look at post #736. CaptainCourtesty called a "lie" an "error". Do you agree with him?
 
Relevance to the Einsatzgruppen?
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There is no relevance. I want to discuss more than one issue here. You're just being evasive because you're between a rock and a hard place.

CaptpainCourtesy destroyed his credibility by calling a "lie" and "error".
http://www.debatepolitics.com/consp...d-minimization-w-123-a-74.html#post1064655162

You know you'll destroy your credibility if you agree with him so you're going to evade the question forever. All the other pro-official version posters are going to tap dance around the question and try to make me forget about it in the hope that it will get buried.

This issue has pretty much shown that you pro-official version posters are not objective truth-seekers so I suppose I'm just going to post info for the viewers to see and keep asking the question so the viewers will know what you pro-official version posters really are.

Here's some info for the viewers.
Home
Flint Talk Forums View topic - Were We Told the Truth about World War 2?


Now please answer the question.
 
Scott said:
There is no relevance. I want to discuss more than one issue here. You're just being evasive because you're between a rock and a hard place.

CaptpainCourtesy destroyed his credibility by calling a "lie" and "error".
http://www.debatepolitics.com/consp...d-minimization-w-123-a-74.html#post1064655162

You know you'll destroy your credibility if you agree with him so you're going to evade the question forever. All the other pro-official version posters are going to tap dance around the question and try to make me forget about it in the hope that it will get buried.

This issue has pretty much shown that you pro-official version posters are not objective truth-seekers so I suppose I'm just going to post info for the viewers to see and keep asking the question so the viewers will know what you pro-official version posters really are.

Here's some info for the viewers.
Home
Flint Talk Forums View topic - Were We Told the Truth about World War 2?


Now please answer the question.
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YOU continue to babble about Captain Courtesy when asked a question.

You continue to ise the words "destroyed his credibility " when ir is YOU that ignores the fact that Nazis had projects in place to butcher the Jews enmass.
 
Scott said:
I'd better post this again.
Zundelsite ZGram - October 5, 1998

You people seem to be trying to bury it.
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This is stupid. Everyone knows that the Germans tried shooting the Jews before looking for alternative, more efficient meant to exterminate them. WTF?


Now please tell us whether you agree with CaptainCourtesy.
http://www.debatepolitics.com/consp...d-minimization-w-123-a-74.html#post1064655162


He called a lie a mere "error".
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Updating inaccurate numbers to reflect actual numbers as more information becomes available is reality. It does not make the original estimates a lie. It is an error.

Estimates of the total number of American Indians who perished due to disease, murder and other non-indigenous means from the day Christopher Columbus arrived in this hemisphere vary from 100 million to as low as 20. Neither estimate is a lie. They are just estimates made until better information becomes available.
 
Scott said:
Here's an article about the Einsatzgruppen.
Zundelsite ZGram - October 5, 1998

I'll post some more stuff later.
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Jew_Killings_in_Ivangorod_(1942).webp

This is what einsatzgruppen did.

Interesting read...


How To Be A Revisionist Scholar


1. Creamed Mush with Fog Sauce -- Never provide evidence for your assertions. In fact, respond to demands for evidence the way Dracula responds to crucifixes. Do anything you can to avoid it. Throw insults. Change the subject. Obfuscate. Laugh derisively. Claim you already gave the evidence or that someone else did. But never provide any evidence yourself (unless you provide an incomplete or incomprehensible citation along with it).

2. Heads-I-Win-Tails-You-Lose -- Demand that all evidence for the Holocaust be proved genuine (dodging any discussion of what that proof would consist of), and also demand that all your unsubstantiated assertions be proved false. That way, you never bear any burden of proof. (originally posted by Mike Stein)

3. Hello, I'm a Cremation Expert -- Claim that the 52 Auschwitz furnaces could not have had the capacity to burn 4,756 corpses per day because modern commercial crematoriums don't have such a capacity. When its pointed out to you that there's no comparison between ordinary commercial crematoriums and those built in the camps, for a variety of reasons -- e.g. coffins were not used, one can cremate more than one corpse in a single retort, etc. -- ignore this and repeat the claim.

4. And I'm a Chemist too! -- Express a series of doubts and claims about the properties of Zyklon-B, the gas used to kill people in Auschwitz gas chambers. For example, claim that Zyklon-B is not an ideal agent for mass gassing, and therefore the Nazis shouldn't have used it and thus they *didn't* use it.

How To Be A Revisionist Scholar
 
Scott said:
I was sure my links went back to this. They didn't and I had to go look for it again but here it is.

(post #232)
http://www.debatepolitics.com/conspiracy-theories/223723-everything-learned-ww-ii-lie-24.html
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And I confronted you on your total lack of logic in attempting to make an exception prove the rule... standard CT and holocaust denier dishonesty. You said, "If there is one lie, there may be more, right?" I called you on this dishonest lack of logic. Don't like it? Don't do it.
 
Scott said:
There is no relevance. I want to discuss more than one issue here. You're just being evasive because you're between a rock and a hard place.

CaptpainCourtesy destroyed his credibility by calling a "lie" and "error".
http://www.debatepolitics.com/consp...d-minimization-w-123-a-74.html#post1064655162

You know you'll destroy your credibility if you agree with him so you're going to evade the question forever. All the other pro-official version posters are going to tap dance around the question and try to make me forget about it in the hope that it will get buried.

This issue has pretty much shown that you pro-official version posters are not objective truth-seekers so I suppose I'm just going to post info for the viewers to see and keep asking the question so the viewers will know what you pro-official version posters really are.

Here's some info for the viewers.
Home
Flint Talk Forums View topic - Were We Told the Truth about World War 2?


Now please answer the question.
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No, I destroyed your credibility MULTIPLE times in this and the other thread. I showed how your confirmation bias and you using the exception logical fallacy demonstrate that you have no interest in the truth at all. All you want to do is push your already decided upon position. You have been destroyed and shown to be dishonest. You have cowardly refused to respond to any challenge. Where is your information on the "4 million variant"? Where is your information that does not link to a source that has already been debunked? Where is your information that identifies facts that the holocaust happened? You claimed that you have no preconceived conclusions already drawn, yet you still have refused to respond to any challenge and still ONLY post holocaust denier crap. Our "viewers" see you for what you are... what all holocaust deniers are. Cowards who are completely dishonest in what they post. I am just happy that I can take part in letting all other posters know to ignore everything you post as dishonest.
 
Scott said:
I'd better post this again.
Zundelsite ZGram - October 5, 1998

You people seem to be trying to bury it.


Now please tell us whether you agree with CaptainCourtesy.
http://www.debatepolitics.com/consp...d-minimization-w-123-a-74.html#post1064655162


He called a lie a mere "error".
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This is standard holocaust denier tactics. Make a dishonest assertion about what someone else says in order to cover up all the dishonesty YOU post. Where's the information on the 4 million variant? The sources that are not debunked holocaust denier sources? The information that demonstrates proof of the holocaust... since you have no preconceived conclusions? We know you're not going to answer these questions, Scott. You are far too cowardly and dishonest to do so... which is standard with holocaust deniers and conspiracy theorists. Never respond to challenges that you cannot handle... and since you can't handle any challenges, never respond to challenges.
 
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