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[spud_meister]

Excuse me Spud, I thought that Amercians use sometimes the name of Jesus in such context.

They probably do, but I'm from a country much more sophisticated than America.

 

[jamesthebond]

They probably do, but I'm from a country much more sophisticated than America.

Great, Australian workers are our brothers too, so I'll pay more attention to Australian English. Now I have to go to a meeting to agitate against liberal candidates but I'll come back soon. I see that Americans are utterly ignorant politically so I plan to explain them some elementary things.

 

[Andalublue]

Great, Australian workers are our brothers too, so I'll pay more attention to Australian English. Now I have to go to a meeting to agitate against liberal candidates but I'll come back soon. I see that Americans are utterly ignorant politically so I plan to explain them some eleverntary things.

I'm really looking forward to being elevernated!

I think I may have just outed you as not really a communist. Sorry n'all.

Santiago Carrillo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I think you would have known that.

 

[jamesthebond]

I'm really looking forward to being elevernated!

Yes, I have already corrected it. I wanted to have more Marxism in school so I make some mistakes in Egnlish sometimes.

 

[jamesthebond]

I meant if he is a REAL communist. You know that some Spanish communists played with so called eurocommunism and spoiled their image significantly. Of course, I know by names almost all communists leaders in Europe.

 

[Andalublue]

I meant if he is a REAL communist. You know that some Spanish communists played with so called eurocommunism and spoiled their image significantly. Of course, I know by names almost all communists leaders in Europe.

Well, what's a REAL communist these days, eh?

I hope you're not disrespecting Gramsci by attacking Eurocommunism. Carillo was indeed one of the authors of Eurocommunism, nevertheless it was very similar in theory to Soviet communism, just with less killing and repression. Not that that mustn't have been huge amounts of fun. :2wave:

 

[Gardener]

Well, what's a REAL communist these days, eh?

I think the going rate is roughly a dime a dozen.

 

[liblady]

First, you cannot win the evil in a second. Yes, some smoked in the Soviet Union but it was never advertised by TV and the like.
Second. Communism is not a joke.
Three. In the long run we will win.
Fourht. No, there was no racism under the Soviet regime.

And you didn't answer what 'free gun' is.




Well, it will be a starting ground for the future victory of Communism whatever strong resistence of American capitalists will be. But the American working class shall say its word. We were allies in WWII and we shall win together again.

wait...WHAT? people in the soviet union have tvs?

 

[reefedjib]

I'm really looking forward to being elevernated!

I think I may have just outed you as not really a communist. Sorry n'all.

Santiago Carrillo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I think you would have known that.

Typical of a communist. What an asshole.

During his term, several thousand imprisoned people, military and civilians, including many women and children, were murdered by communist groups in the Paracuellos massacre at Paracuellos del Jarama and Torrejón de Ardoz (the biggest massacre performed in the Republican sector during the Spanish Civil War), where the dead were buried in common graves. Carrillo has always strongly denied any knowledge or involvement in the massacres according to his memoirs but reliable evidence shows involvement in the massacre committed by communist elements.

 

[Andalublue]

Typical of a communist. What an asshole.

You might want to read up on civil wars. They're rarely clean affairs. Ever heard of the Lawrence or the Nueces massacres? Typical Americans?

As you can see, the Communists were significantly less bloody than the Nationalists:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Terror_%28Spain%29

 

[reefedjib]

You might want to read up on civil wars. They're rarely clean affairs. Ever heard of the Lawrence or the Nueces massacres? Typical Americans?

As you can see, the Communists were significantly less bloody than the Nationalists:

White Terror (Spain) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

They are assholes too. Too many assholes.

 

[Andalublue]

They are assholes too. Too many assholes.

It was the era of the assholes. Think of Carillo as analagous to Jefferson Davis.

 

[reefedjib]

It was the era of the assholes. Think of Carillo as analagous to Jefferson Davis.

Not if he massacred women and children. No ****ing way!

 

[Ockham]

They are assholes too. Too many assholes.

This just had to be done...

 

[Andalublue]

Not if he massacred women and children. No ****ing way!

He didn't order those deaths, he was the leader of the CP at the time, just as Davis didn't order the Lawrence or Nueces massacres, but he was President of the Confederacy at the time.

 

[jamesthebond]

I think the going rate is roughly a dime a dozen.

Not everything can be measured by money.

Well, what's a REAL communist these days, eh?

I hope you're not disrespecting Gramsci by attacking Eurocommunism. Carillo was indeed one of the authors of Eurocommunism, nevertheless it was very similar in theory to Soviet communism, just with less killing and repression. Not that that mustn't have been huge amounts of fun. :2wave:

Everything which is needed for communism was written by Marx, Lenin and Stalin. What sense in thinking up something else? It is pure revisionism. And it shouldn't be any killing and repressing at all. Communism is not for fun, by the way.

wait...WHAT? people in the soviet union have tvs?

Yes, ma'am, they had TVs and even refrigirators. Not that good as Japanese ones, but it is better to have ideas than things.

 

[Andalublue]

Not everything can be measured by money.



Everything which is needed for communism was written by Marx, Lenin and Stalin. What sense in thinking up something else? It is pure revisionism. And it shouldn't be any killing and repressing at all. Communism is not for fun, by the way.



Yes, ma'am, they had TVs and even refrigirators. Not that good as Japanese ones, but it is better to have ideas than things.

This is funny stuff!!! Me likey.

 

[reefedjib]

He didn't order those deaths, he was the leader of the CP at the time, just as Davis didn't order the Lawrence or Nueces massacres, but he was President of the Confederacy at the time.

Whatever, **** him, ****ing communist.

 

[Andalublue]

Whatever, **** him, ****ing communist.

Troll.

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[Fiddytree]

So was the statement of Mr. jamesthebond, I belive.
Communism may not resurge but there is a clear move towards socialism in the EU and the USA.

Not really. The United States has not held a significant socialist movement since the early 20th century and even then, it was not nearly enough to secure much representation.

 

[Canell]

Well, it will be a starting ground for the future victory of Communism whatever strong resistence of American capitalists will be.

You are right, comrade, however this is a well known deception plan as described HERE:

In order to convince the West of Moscow's sincerity in this phase of the plan, which would occur in the 1990s, the Warsaw Pact alliance would be dissolved. In 1982 Sejna admitted that this future dissolution would not be spontaneous. Instead, it was a carefully prepared deception operation. The dissolution of Russia's East European alliance, explained Sejna, would not change the security equation in Europe because of "a web of bilateral defence arrangements, to be supervised by secret committees of Comecon."

What is even more alarming, if you study Sejna's writings, are repeated hints about a massive economic sabotage operation against the West. "The Soviet view," wrote Sejna, "was that during Phase Three Capitalism would suffer an economic crisis that would bring Europe to its knees.."

What would trigger this crisis?

According to Soviet forecasts, wrote Sejna, the "Middle East regimes would respond to our strategy and, through their oil, give us the ability to deliver a paralyzing blow to Capitalism." This would further the demoralization of the West, so that the people would lose faith in democratic institutions, preparing the way for socialism.

If the stock market crashed, if the dollar was devaluated, if banks failed and millions lost their jobs -- which political ideology would gain the most ground? Would it be socialism or free-market capitalism?

If the people of Russia are willing to embrace the hated Communist system because of present economic hardships, the peoples of Western Europe and America might also turn to the left -- to Marxist solutions.

It is not only in Russia that people's faith in democracy and capitalism can be systematically smashed. This can also happen in America. And perhaps it will happen sooner than anyone expects.

 

[jamesthebond]

I am glad to see that communist ideas are close to hearts of simple Americans. The fact that this thread is popular is another proof of it.

 

[jamesthebond]

You are right, comrade, however this is a well known deception plan as described HERE:

you know well, comrade, that written plans are made to hide real ones.

 

[Canell]

you know well, comrade, that written plans are made to hide real ones.

Exactly - there are plans and there is agenda. :roll:

 

[MKULTRABOY]

Whatever that link was it smelt like dookey, Canell Nice to meet you, James. I study Russia