Hey young Trump voters, female Trump voters, minority Trump voters & Harris haters because of Gaza. Do you see that you made everything worse?

[Tangmo]

This isn't the first time a democratic society chose to gave up its freedoms.

True, and it will be the last one because the long and dark period of history that's beginning now will will extend indefinitely.

A thousand years of darkness. Followed by a second thousand years of darkness and barbarism. Rinse & Repeat indefinitely.

Democracy will never again be possible.

E Pluribus Fascism.

 

[Slartibartfast]

True, and it will be the last one because the long and dark period of history that's beginning now will will extend indefinitely.

A thousand years of darkness. Followed by a second thousand years of darkness and barbarism. Rinse & Repeat indefinitely.

Democracy will never again be possible.

E Pluribus Fascism.

I agree that this may be the beginning of the long term failure of the human race in general. It depends on whether the people win or if groups like the Heritage foundation win.

 

[CaughtInThe]

This is precisely the type of thinking that has turned people off of the Democrats completely.

They are the ultimate entitled people. They really operate as if everyone owes them their support. Instead of the other way around.

Im independent. Every American, except the few that are represented by the interests our current political system is set up to serve, should be independent.

Our political system and elected government have been captured by special interests.

The only way out is to stop digging. Instead of trying to shame people into forcibly choosing between the lesser of two evils all the time, its BEYOND time to encourage Americans to ask, WHY DO WE HAVE CHOOSE BETWEEN ANY EVILS AT ALL??

Protests, and revolution arent the only way forward. However, continuing to hope that a deeply corrupt system can somehow be manipulated into serving the people, is a fools game. Now before you ask, whats next -- chaos? The answer is no. Our current political system is not constiutionally bound to be the way it is (a 2 party system). We can move to a new POLITICAL system within the framework and boundaries of the constitution.

We can have multiple parties, we can create and vote for a new 3rd party, perhaps a progressive party for example like the one Bernie Sanders floated the idea of starting, before he remembered that he's 10000 years old. Something along those lines. The Democratic party has in fact been so spiteful towards its voters, that you know what, I think anybody that any progressive at this point that remains in the Democratic party, I have to question their self-esteem. How can you remain in a party that treats you so contemptously, as if you were meant to SERVE THEM???

That's a lot of words to divert attention away from the groups that brought the Trump evil on America and the world.

 

[CaughtInThe]

He sucks, but no doubt better than the alternative.

Well that's a gigantic lie. And I'm sure all the dead people across the globe because of trump will agree with me right before they die.

 

[Koala]

That's a lot of words to divert attention away from the groups that brought the Trump evil on America and the world.

What group exactly? The group of people that failed their duty to pay homage to the Democratic Party and pledge allegiance to its leaders no matter the outcome.
Youre EXACTLY the type of entitled Democrat I mean. You honestly do believe that people OWE it to the Democrats to support them. This is so twisted, how can you not understand this?

 

[CaughtInThe]

What group exactly?

What? Are you joking in THIS thread?

 

[element94]

That's a lot of words to divert attention away from the groups that brought the Trump evil on America and the world.

I think the root of that post you responded to, is something I've seen quite a bit lately from the right: stop telling the truth about the Trump administration and everything will be fine.

 

[Simpletruther]

Well that's a gigantic lie. And I'm sure all the dead people across the globe because of trump will agree with me right before they die.

Drama queen

 

[The AntiDonald]

Viewing TikTok isn't research?

We have a lot of uninformed voters. And even more dumb voters. They are both bad for our country.

The funny thing is, the dumb voters tend to turn out in higher numbers. If we could convince everyone to turnout, our problems would be mostly solved.

 

[redbeer]

First of all I support what Israel is doing to regain control of the Gaza strip, remove and eliminate Hamas if possible, and according to Netanyahu establish and independent commission to govern Gaza and return it to the people. Hamas is the problem. Regardless of the anti semite crowd who wants the continue Hitlers final solution, it's Hamas and the Palestinians that created the current war in the Gaza strip and the rest of the ME. Read the history since 1948 and you would plainly see this start with Palestinians objecting to the establishment of a new Israel state and guickly resorting to warfare and terror attacks to reach their goal, annihilation of the Jews and and end to the democratic state of Israel. That's the facts. Are there some unpleasant consequences, yes, but I don't recall all those on here supporting the Palestinians position doing any complaining during the decades of Palestinian terror groups and ME nations attacking Israel and killing innocent women children in the process.
War is a dirty business, Hamas and the other terror groups supported by Iran, are responsible for what it led too. Now we have to wait and see it Netanyahu sticks to what he said over the past week. More aid, more control over where the aid goes, (keeping it out of the hands of Hamas, who sell it to their own people) and the eventual establishment of a new Gaza.

according to (AI)

• Significant increases in recent years: While rocket and missile attacks have occurred throughout Israel's history, the number has dramatically increased in recent years, particularly since the early 2000s. For instance, since 2005 alone, Hamas and other terrorist groups in Gaza have launched over 20,000 rockets and mortars at Israel.
• Post-October 7, 2023: A significant surge in attacks followed the October 7, 2023 events, with nearly 30,000 projectiles launched at Israel within the first 600 days of the ensuing conflict alone, according to the Israel Defense Forces (IDF).
• Specific figures:
  • Over 26,000 rockets, missiles, and drones were launched at Israel from multiple fronts since the beginning of the war following October 7, 2023, according to The Times of Israel.
  • This includes approximately 13,200 projectiles from Gaza, 12,400 from Lebanon, around 60 from Syria, 180 from Yemen, and 400 from Iran, according to the IDF.
  • Prior to this period, data from the Foundation for Defense of Democracies indicates that more than 19,000 rockets had been launched at Israel since the October 7, 2023, events, primarily from the Gaza Strip.

Facts without a liberal bias are not permitted, don't ya know? One must have amnesia of Oct. 7th and the celebration of the Palestinians on the streets.....this must be totally erased from your paradigm, lol.

 

[JoeB131]

Or are you also gonna be stubborn and admit no responsibility for the 4 years of evil that you brought on our country and the world.

Next time, take care of your own ****ing house (the USA) first before you worry about other stuff. And at least TRY to understand that a lifelong MASSIVE liar will lie to you about ANYTHING (groceries, war, gas/electricity, etc).

So, you can look at your mistakes as a lesson learned and move forward and do the right things in the future or you can continue to make the USA/Gaza/Ukraine/NATO/FEMA/CDC/cancer research and the world worse.

Your choice.

I'm not sure what your point is here? Are you uspet all the groups in your list voted for Trump over Gaza, or other reasons?

Both Harris and Trump promised the Israelis a blank check in genociding the shit out of Gaza, so there was no difference between the two.

So I would imagine all those groups probalby considered other issues when they voted for Trump.

It's too bad Harris and Autopen didn't give them good reasons.

 

[JoeB131]

The funny thing is, the dumb voters tend to turn out in higher numbers. If we could convince everyone to turnout, our problems would be mostly solved.

Neither side had a monopoly on dumb voters.

 

[ataraxia]

Many people who voted for President Trump are very intelligent; some may have an IQ that is even higher than yours.

Haha. Consequences speak for themselves. They died at 3 times the rate of everyone else during Covid because they fall for so many lies, conspiracy theories, and bull$hit.

Hard to argue that that's any kind of intelligence.

The only ones who may have some intelligence are the handful of exploitative plutocrats and oligarchs who exploit all the ignorance and hate of the masses of stupid Trump voters to cut their taxes on their backs. And even they are too stupid to think through the long term consequences of their actions.

 

[Perotista]

Or are you also gonna be stubborn and admit no responsibility for the 4 years of evil that you brought on our country and the world.

Next time, take care of your own ****ing house (the USA) first before you worry about other stuff. And at least TRY to understand that a lifelong MASSIVE liar will lie to you about ANYTHING (groceries, war, gas/electricity, etc).

So, you can look at your mistakes as a lesson learned and move forward and do the right things in the future or you can continue to make the USA/Gaza/Ukraine/NATO/FEMA/CDC/cancer research and the world worse.

Your choice.

Gaza didn’t play a role in how I decided to vote last year. To most Americans it didn’t either. You realize that history shows on average 94% of the time republicans will vote for their candidate and democrats for theirs regardless of who the candidate is or what the issues are. For them its all about the letter behind the name, nothing else.

For the rest, those not republicans nor democrats, the non-affiliated and less to non-partisans, last year they listed their most important issue in deciding how’d they vote as inflation/rising prices, the economy in general at 35%, immigration 13% with all other issues in single digits. The Israeli/Hamas war didn’t make the list. Although that may have fallen under foreign policy which 1% listed it as their most important issue in deciding who to vote for. Perhaps the most telling question among this group was the question, “Are you better off now than you were four years ago?” 50% answered 4 years ago vs. 25% better off now.

 

[The AntiDonald]

Neither side had a monopoly on dumb voters.

I disagree. Maga holds the record. Not by much, but still holds it. Look no further than Jan. 6th.

 

[Tigerace117]

Or are you also gonna be stubborn and admit no responsibility for the 4 years of evil that you brought on our country and the world.

Next time, take care of your own ****ing house (the USA) first before you worry about other stuff. And at least TRY to understand that a lifelong MASSIVE liar will lie to you about ANYTHING (groceries, war, gas/electricity, etc).

So, you can look at your mistakes as a lesson learned and move forward and do the right things in the future or you can continue to make the USA/Gaza/Ukraine/NATO/FEMA/CDC/cancer research and the world worse.

Your choice.

I must say, the Democrats tripling down on “blindly support us no matter what we do or fail to do!” instead of actually assessing why they lost is……not unexpected at all, actually.

 

[Tigerace117]

If Hamas had not attacked on 10/7, there would have been no casualties in Gaza or Israel.

Except that is blatantly untrue, because Israel was killing Palestinian civilians well before October 7th.

 

[eohrnberger]

Except that is blatantly untrue, because Israel was killing Palestinian civilians well before October 7th.

I see you are dropping the context which doesn't support your opinion, that, or you are just parroting Hamas propaganda.

 

[Tigerace117]

I see you are dropping the context which doesn't support your opinion, that, or you are just parroting Hamas propaganda.

The “context” is that your claims are blatantly untrue, as Israel was targeting Palestinian civilians well before October 7th.

 

[eohrnberger]

The “context” is that your claims are blatantly untrue, as Israel was targeting Palestinian civilians well before October 7th.

These Israeli actions. What were they in response to? That's the missing context.
Parroting the so called PA 'Health Ministry' or PA 'Foreign Ministry', both Hamas propaganda controlled, don't count as legitimate sources for anything but Hamas propaganda.

 

[Tigerace117]

These Israeli actions. What were they in response to? That's the missing context.
Parroting the so called PA 'Health Ministry' or PA 'Foreign Ministry', both Hamas propaganda controlled, don't count as legitimate sources for anything but Hamas propaganda.

They are in response to Israel’s desire to steal Palestinian land, as shown by their settlements, which are illegal under international law.

Even if the “true” civilian death toll was only half of what has been universally reported by multiple different sources, Israel still would have murdered over twenty thousand civilians.

 

[eohrnberger]

They are in response to Israel’s desire to steal Palestinian land, as shown by their settlements, which are illegal under international law.

Yes, this is the often used excuse for terrorist attacks against civilians, the constant barrage of missiles targeting those civilians, the constant suicide bombers, the constant terrorism.

I can't recall the last time any of those borders changed.

Even if the “true” civilian death toll was only half of what has been universally reported by multiple different sources, Israel still would have murdered over twenty thousand civilians.

It is questionable if there even is such a thing as a 'Palestinian Civilian', given the radical militant indoctrination Hamas passes off as 'education' of the Palestinian youth. More like those 'schools' are terrorist indoctrination centers.

Any international funding which is given to the PA, also Hamas controlled, is indirectly funding terrorists. Until Hamas is totally removed, the situation isn't going to get any better.

 

[Tigerace117]

Yes, this is the often used excuse for terrorist attacks against civilians, the constant barrage of missiles targeting those civilians, the constant suicide bombers, the constant terrorism.

I can't recall the last time any of those borders changed.


It is questionable if there even is such a thing as a 'Palestinian Civilian', given the radical militant indoctrination Hamas passes off as 'education' of the Palestinian youth. More like those 'schools' are terrorist indoctrination centers.

Any international funding which is given to the PA, also Hamas controlled, is indirectly funding terrorists. Until Hamas is totally removed, the situation isn't going to get any better.

Israel has killed more civilians in a year than Hamas has in its entire existence.

Israel elected terrorists PM and gave them medals, having used identical tactics to Hamas to gain their own independence.

The talk about “terrorism” is hypocritical at best.

The rest of the globe refusing to recognize Israel’s attempts at land grabs doesn’t change the facts on the ground.

Uh…..no, it isn’t “questionable at best”. International law does not go away because you shriek “Hamas” over and over.

But your attempts to excuse the mass murder of tens of thousands of innocent civilians is noted.

Which makes it pretty clear that your definition of the situation becoming “better” would be anything but

 

[CaughtInThe]

Drama queen

Why talk about Donald Trump?

 

[eohrnberger]

Israel has killed more civilians in a year than Hamas has in its entire existence.

Israel elected terrorists PM and gave them medals, having used identical tactics to Hamas to gain their own independence.

The talk about “terrorism” is hypocritical at best.

The rest of the globe refusing to recognize Israel’s attempts at land grabs doesn’t change the facts on the ground.

Uh…..no, it isn’t “questionable at best”. International law does not go away because you shriek “Hamas” over and over.

But your attempts to excuse the mass murder of tens of thousands of innocent civilians is noted.

Which makes it pretty clear that your definition of the situation becoming “better” would be anything but

You obviously support terrorists. Oh well. You be you.