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Hey young Trump voters, female Trump voters, minority Trump voters & Harris haters because of Gaza. Do you see that you made everything worse?

The AntiDonald said:
The funny thing is, the dumb voters tend to turn out in higher numbers. If we could convince everyone to turnout, our problems would be mostly solved.
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Trump still would've won the 2024 presidential election if everyone turned out to vote.
 
Brack said:
Trump still would've won the 2024 presidential election if everyone turned out to vote.
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Not true. The numbers in Texas alone would have swung it if all the democrats voted. And Texas would now be a purple state. Millions stayed home.
 
If Texas has 1.6 million more democratic voters and everyone voted, it stands to reason that Texas would have went blue. The same scenario can be applied to a number of other states. I could be wrong here and don't need to argue about it, but I can count.
 
The AntiDonald said:
If Texas has 1.6 million more democratic voters and everyone voted, it stands to reason that Texas would have went blue. The same scenario can be applied to a number of other states. I could be wrong here and don't need to argue about it, but I can count.
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Ignoring all the independents of course.
 
Koala said:
This is precisely the type of thinking that has turned people off of the Democrats completely.

They are the ultimate entitled people. They really operate as if everyone owes them their support. Instead of the other way around.

Im independent. Every American, except the few that are represented by the interests our current political system is set up to serve, should be independent.

Our political system and elected government have been captured by special interests.

The only way out is to stop digging. Instead of trying to shame people into forcibly choosing between the lesser of two evils all the time, its BEYOND time to encourage Americans to ask, WHY DO WE HAVE CHOOSE BETWEEN ANY EVILS AT ALL??

Protests, and revolution arent the only way forward. However, continuing to hope that a deeply corrupt system can somehow be manipulated into serving the people, is a fools game. Now before you ask, whats next -- chaos? The answer is no. Our current political system is not constiutionally bound to be the way it is (a 2 party system). We can move to a new POLITICAL system within the framework and boundaries of the constitution.

We can have multiple parties, we can create and vote for a new 3rd party, perhaps a progressive party for example like the one Bernie Sanders floated the idea of starting, before he remembered that he's 10000 years old. Something along those lines. The Democratic party has in fact been so spiteful towards its voters, that you know what, I think anybody that any progressive at this point that remains in the Democratic party, I have to question their self-esteem. How can you remain in a party that treats you so contemptously, as if you were meant to SERVE THEM???
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Bravo! 👏
 
CaughtInThe said:
Or are you also gonna be stubborn and admit no responsibility for the 4 years of evil that you brought on our country and the world.

Next time, take care of your own ****ing house (the USA) first before you worry about other stuff. And at least TRY to understand that a lifelong MASSIVE liar will lie to you about ANYTHING (groceries, war, gas/electricity, etc).

So, you can look at your mistakes as a lesson learned and move forward and do the right things in the future or you can continue to make the USA/Gaza/Ukraine/NATO/FEMA/CDC/cancer research and the world worse.

Your choice.
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As a trump felon non supporter. No, nothing is worse. It is exactly what they wanted.
 
eohrnberger said:
If Hamas had not attacked on 10/7, there would have been no casualties in Gaza or Israel.
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People get upset when another country stops their food supply. As Israel does.

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The first major conflict between Israel and Hamas, which included Israeli air strikes and a ground invasion, took place at the end of 2008. Hostilities continued to break out, most notably in 2012, 2014, and 2021. Among the factors complicating those hostilities were the high population density of the Gaza Strip and the proliferation of subterranean tunnels there. Those tunnels were used by Hamas and other Gazans to sidestep the blockade, to conduct operations, and to hide from Israeli forces, and they were difficult to detect or destroy, especially when constructed under urban dwellings.
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www.britannica.com

Israel-Hamas War (Gaza conflict) | Explanation, Summary, Ceasefire, Casualties, & Map | Britannica

The Israel-Hamas War is the war between Israel and Palestinian militants, especially Hamas, that began on October 7, 2023, when Hamas launched an assault on Israel that killed more than 1,200 people in Israel.
www.britannica.com www.britannica.com
 
dairyair said:
People get upset when another country stops their food supply. As Israel does.

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www.britannica.com

Israel-Hamas War (Gaza conflict) | Explanation, Summary, Ceasefire, Casualties, & Map | Britannica

The Israel-Hamas War is the war between Israel and Palestinian militants, especially Hamas, that began on October 7, 2023, when Hamas launched an assault on Israel that killed more than 1,200 people in Israel.
www.britannica.com www.britannica.com
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88% of aid trucks are looted enroute. Since the only people armed in Gaza are Hamas, presuming they are at the bottom of this.

 
I get a lot of heat for this but it needs to be said REPEATEDLY.

Normie neoliberal establishment politicians are part of the reason we have fascism.

We have fascism now because both parties forever refused to do anything to enable a more just economic order, or they only did shit around the margins. Democrats LET Republicans erode the rule of law. Democrats and Republicans both work together to protect corporate interests and erode economic justice. Democrats and Republicans work together to enable the white supremacist, pro-capitalist system known as the ****ing police. Democrats and Republicans work TOGETHER to give our money to Israel in order to oppress Palestinians by both being AIPAC's bitch. Democrats and Republicans work together to ensure forever wars and maintenance of empire even when this is not in the interest of the average American. Democrats let Republicans constantly ratchet rightwards on immigration when the reality is we need more of it and it is beneficial to us!

There is absolutely nothing about a Kamala Harris administration that would not have led to more fascism in 2028 because Democrats are a Neville Chamberlain-ass party that believes in and stands for nothing.

This is the wake up call EVERYONE needs, including the vote blue no matter who folk. The opposite of fascism is ANTI FASCISM. Not "voting for corporate Democrats so the libs can go back to eating brunch and ignore everything else."

That is why we were sounding the alarm over Gaza. Because if you cannot morally oppose genocide, then I can't trust you to be morally for or against anything.
 
dairyair said:
People get upset when another country stops their food supply. As Israel does.

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www.britannica.com

Israel-Hamas War (Gaza conflict) | Explanation, Summary, Ceasefire, Casualties, & Map | Britannica

The Israel-Hamas War is the war between Israel and Palestinian militants, especially Hamas, that began on October 7, 2023, when Hamas launched an assault on Israel that killed more than 1,200 people in Israel.
www.britannica.com www.britannica.com
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Looked into this a bit more closely rather than parroting the Hamas propaganda.
eohrnberger said:
". . . kids in Gaza are starving . . ."
Have to ask 'Why?' 'Why is this happening?'

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How UN delays, Hamas theft, and black market greed caused Gaza's hunger​

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How UN delays, Hamas theft, and black market greed caused Gaza's hunger

“There is some hunger in Gaza, and it exists only in places Hamas is pursuing it, not in other areas,” said Professor Eytan Gilboa. Central to the international pressure on Israel for a ceasefire with Hamas are claims of widespread starvation and even accusations that Israel is deliberately...
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Hamas is doing this the Palestinians.
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eohrnberger said:
It has been reported that the UN's onw web site states that 83% of all Gaza aid trucks were looter / hijacked by Hamas, although I have yet to track that exact web page down - I suspect that it was taken down for not complying with the demanded narrative.

The dirty little secret here being that this is
  • what the UN is enabling
  • anyone who demand or support a Palestinian state (which will be Hamas controlled) is enabling
  • anyone who demands that the existing Hamas controlled aid distribution organization remains the recipient of international relief funds is enabling
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dairyair said:
I tend to not presume.
Why were there all those tunnels to thwart the food blockades?
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The tunnels had nothing to do with the food blockades. The tunnels were there to allow Hamas to conduct terrorist attacks.
dairyair said:
Your unknown link was a story from May of this year. A full 18 months after the Hamas attack for food blockades.
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So, your contention is that Oct 7 happened because of “food blockades”? Is that correct?
 
eohrnberger said:
Looked into this a bit more closely than parroting the Hamas propaganda.
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Britannica, a Hamas propaganda source? LOL. I hope you're not serious.

Someone already posted the kind of story you did from May of this year.
The Britannica article was what caused the Oct 7, 23 Hamas attack. And all the years prior that lead up to that day.

Not what has happened since then.
 
dairyair said:
Britannica, a Hamas propaganda source? LOL. I hope you're not serious.

Someone already posted the kind of story you did from May of this year.
The Britannica article was what caused the Oct 7, 23 Hamas attack. And all the years prior that lead up to that day.

Not what has happened since then.
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The Al-Aqsa Flood (Oct 7) was not a result of the food embargo. It was a result of Hamas wanting to kill as many unarmed Jews as possible.
 
JMB1911A1 said:
The tunnels had nothing to do with the food blockades. The tunnels were there to allow Hamas to conduct terrorist attacks.

So, your contention is that Oct 7 happened because of “food blockades”? Is that correct?
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My contention is what Britannica has to say on the history of Israel and Palestine. Things had been fairly good for almost 2000 years prior to 1948.

The blockade was more like a last straw???
 
JMB1911A1 said:
The Al-Aqsa Flood (Oct 7) was not a result of the food embargo. It was a result of Hamas wanting to kill as many unarmed Jews as possible.
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What is provoking Hamas to kill as many unarmed Jews as possible? It takes 2 to tango.
 
dairyair said:
My contention is what Britannica has to say on the history of Israel and Palestine. Things had been fairly good for almost 2000 years prior to 1948.

The blockade was more like a last straw???
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dairyair said:
What is provoking Hamas to kill as many unarmed Jews as possible? It takes 2 to tango.
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Guess we have our newest Hamas apologist.
 
Brack said:
See Post #53.
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You do realize that millions of eligible Americans are not registered. They are not part of this guess. Shockingly (not really) you (and the source) don't mention that...and are unable to do anything but guess at what their attitudes would be.

Additionally, post-election polls? Do you really believe that there is not a winner's bias in those numbers? People want to associate themselves with the winner. And of course, there is this...

"According to the complaint, more voters have sworn in legal affidavits that they voted for independent U.S. Senate candidate Diane Sare than the Rockland County Board of Elections counted and certified, contradicting those results. The complaint also cited numerous statistical anomalies in the presidential election results.
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They include multiple districts where hundreds of voters chose the Democratic candidate Kirsten Gillibrand for Senate, but none voted for former Vice President Kamala Harris, the Democratic candidate for president.

Max Bonamente, a professor of physics and astronomy at the University of Alabama in Huntsville and the author of the Statistics and Analysis of Scientific Data, said in a paper that the 2024 presidential election results were statistically highly unlikely in four of the five towns in Rockland County when compared with 2020 results.
www.newsweek.com

2024 election results under scrutiny as lawsuit advances

A judge has ruled that a lawsuit questioning the election results in Rockland County, New York, can proceed to discovery.
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