eja2721 said:I'm religious and I think religion is bullshit.
eja2721 said:I'm religious and I think religion is bullshit.
Do you believe in love? Do you believe in faith,trust,kindness?
Jesus was Jewish, but he didn't follow Judaism to a T. In fact, he got rid of a lot of old laws and ways of thinking from the Old Testament. He effectively got rid of things like dietary concerns, strictly observing the sabbath, etc.eja2721 said:In case you didn't realize it yet, your "Son of God" was a Jew. You worship a man that doesn't even follow YOUR religion, proving that religion is, in fact, bullshit.
As Judaism goes, if you're born out of a Jewish mother, you're Jewish. Even if you're an atheist, a buddhist, or whatever your faith may be, you're always still Jewish.eja2721 said:So he's a Jew who doesn't follow his own religion? That's supposed to make sense, right? I guess I'm not ignorant enough to "see the light".
I'm debating religion in another thread. It can be done using context, historical data, and more.eja2721 said:You won't go anywhere debating religion. You can't debate illogical subjects. Religion is the absence of logic. Therefore, you can't debate religion, you can only argue over it.
eja2721 said:You make a really good point. I never saw it that way. You're right about the religion/debate thing, however, a lot of the time religious people are debating religion, which means that they will defend their religion like a sacred treasure (not that there's anything bad about that, but if you're debating and trying to get a point across, you've got to use logic and not try to make the person you're debating with look like a monster because they don't believe in a certain faith).
shuamort said:As Judaism goes, if you're born out of a Jewish mother, you're Jewish. Even if you're an atheist, a buddhist, or whatever your faith may be, you're always still Jewish.
I'm debating religion in another thread. It can be done using context, historical data, and more.
Personal anecdote for you. I used to be a hardcore atheist. Nothing could sway me and it would come up in debates with religious folk. Logic was on my side and I agreed with your point of view that religion isn't in and of itself a logical proposition. Then one person asked a really good debate point.
"We can't prove that there's a god, right?" they said
"Right." I replied.
"Well, you can't logically prove there isn't a god, can you?"
"Umm, no".
There is no logical construct to prove that there isn't a god. Of course, there also isn't a logical construct to prove that the Invisible Pink Unicorn does or does not exist either. As it sits, I can't honestly call myself an atheist since I can't logically prove that there isn't a god or supreme being. Does that mean I believe that there is one? No. But it means that as much as I want to, I can't logically close my mind to it either. Kinda sucks, but I feel as if that's an honest assessment. YMMV.
As I said in the quoted post: I can't honestly call myself an atheist...satanloveslibs said:This would make you an agnostic, not atheist.
shuamort said:As I said in the quoted post: I can't honestly call myself an atheist...
eja2721 said:I'm religious and I think religion is bullshit. Anyone that seriously thinks they are superior than their fellow man and deserves to live all enternity in a Heaven while his brother of a different faith burns in Hell is an ignorant basterd. If there is really a god, where is he?
Luckily, hell is a construct that happened much after the Bible was first written then, eh?Drum_corps912004 said:Do you not listen in church? God is a spiritual presence not a physical one.
Sounds like you'lll be the one burnin' in hell, not your brother. :lol:
eja2721 said:Oh, and if you believe in a superior being, and if you believe in paying for your sins in the afterlife, why then do we constantly incarcerate our brothers and sisters? Why make them suffer twice?
eja2721 said:In case you didn't realize it yet, your "Son of God" was a Jew. You worship a man that doesn't even follow YOUR religion, proving that religion is, in fact, bullshit. Thank you. Have a nice day.
To not understand = MISUNDERSTAND
To refuse to understand = IGNORANCE
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