Here's a radical suggestion for the $20 bill!

[RetiredNSmilin]

another radical suggestion: currency that only denotes what said currency is worth

Now that would be novel. In this computer world, it would be possible.

Scan in a Tubman $20 bill and your get $3.50 for it....and the amount would vary from day to day.

 

[chromium]

why exactly do we "need" a female on the 20 dollar bill?

why do we need a male on it

really do you have to look for some nefarious motive for everything? That is so incredibly petty from someone who can still use 4-5 other bills with old crusty white men

 

[RetiredNSmilin]

I have a lot of respect for Andrew Jackson. He's the kind of leader that deserves to have his image on our currency. What he accomplished at New Orleans, considering what he had, proved what he could do when the chips were down. And he was a very intelligent man--all it takes to prove that to yourself is to read his Veto Speech of 1836. I can't recall the name of the movie about Jackson, but I think Charlton Heston portrayed him very well. It's worth watching just for the scene where some guy is foolish enough to make a crack about Jackson' wife. Someone here called him a bad person. I don't know about that, but he sure was a bad man to cross.

matchlight, one movie was The Buccaneer that had Heston playing Jackson.

Did you also know January 8th (Battle of New Orleans) was celebrated just as much as the 4th of July before the Civil War?

He was also the ONLY President to pay off the national debt.

He also hated the British and Indians fiercely. Even after the Cherokee Nation won their court case, he blatantly forcibly moved them along the Trail of Tears anyway.
He told the chief justice,... OK, you have your ruling, no enforce it.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

It seems that there's a lot of people - mostly on the right, of course - who are incensed that we're taking Jackson's face off the $20 bill and replacing it with Harriet Tubman. After all, he was a war president and all she did was help run the Underground Railroad to help slaves to make it to freedom (such as it was before the 1964 Civil Rights Act).

So I'll propose an alternative female in her place. This particular female organized a team of scouts in wartime to operate behind enemy lines on riverine craft, her team (under the orders of the Secretary of War):

- mapped enemy positions and gathered other intel;

- disabled mines;

- destroyed supply routes;

- and took point to lead the Army to destroy enemy supply depots.

During the same campaign, she recruited nearly 200 new partisans to join the Army's efforts against the enemy, and at the same time freed 750 other captives. Her name? Check the sources. First source. Second source.

I don't know how many people on the right you talk to, my facebook feed is blowing up with memes asking to support putting "gun toting Christian republican Harriet Tubman on the 20"

 

[Orly?]

why exactly do we "need" a female on the 20 dollar bill?

To satisfy racist sexist leftists..

 

[instagramsci]

Now that would be novel. In this computer world, it would be possible.

Scan in a Tubman $20 bill and your get $3.50 for it....and the amount would vary from day to day.

that's not entirely what I meant

 

[RetiredUSN]

I don't give a **** what's on the 20 dollar bill as long as it's still worth $20.

It's gonna be a while before it's worth 20 dollars again.

 

[RetiredNSmilin]

that's not entirely what I meant

Then I stand corrected.

 

[joG]

Keep Jackson on the bill.

Why not the first black first woman?

 

[joG]

I am perfectly fine with Tubman replacing Jackson on the 20 dollar bill. She is widely known, and she risked her freedom and life to free people.

I had known, she had existed. But, why not pay homage to an important and really well known person from a minority like Einstein?

 

[dimensionallava]

I had known, she had existed. But, why not pay homage to an important and really well known person from a minority like Einstein?

he was born in germany for one thing, wasn't all that crazy about about capitalism or nationalism, it would be pretty odd to put him on american currency

The economic anarchy of capitalist society as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of the evil. We see before us a huge community of producers the members of which are unceasingly striving to deprive each other of the fruits of their collective labor—not by force, but on the whole in faithful compliance with legally established rules. In this respect, it is important to realize that the means of production—that is to say, the entire productive capacity that is needed for producing consumer goods as well as additional capital goods—may legally be, and for the most part are, the private property of individuals.

For the sake of simplicity, in the discussion that follows I shall call “workers” all those who do not share in the ownership of the means of production—although this does not quite correspond to the customary use of the term. The owner of the means of production is in a position to purchase the labor power of the worker. By using the means of production, the worker produces new goods which become the property of the capitalist.

Why Socialism?

 

[joG]

he was born in germany for one thing, wasn't all that crazy about about capitalism or nationalism, it would be pretty odd to put him on american currency



Why Socialism?

Einstein was in the US by choice and Americans need neither be nationalist nor have studied economics. And at least he looked kind of cute.

 

[legalimmigrant]

How about a Marxist Muslim, half-black, half-white, girly guy of suspect sexual orientation, and sealed private records to remind us forever what happens when the American voters lose their brains in the name political correctness. Twice.

 

[azgreg]

It's gonna be a while before it's worth 20 dollars again.

It's worth exactly $20 today.

 

[dimensionallava]

How about a Marxist Muslim, half-black, half-white, girly guy of suspect sexual orientation, and sealed private records to remind us forever what happens when the American voters lose their brains in the name political correctness. Twice.

he's also a witch

 

[RetiredUSN]

It's worth exactly $20 today.

Not with the current inflation.

 

[azgreg]

Not with the current inflation.

Sure it is. If I owe someone $20 and i give them $20 I'm free and clear.

 

[eohrnberger]

why exactly do we "need" a female on the 20 dollar bill?

This is little more than yet another pandering of the Democrats to the Democrat's voting block, to keep them loyal and voting for them, as many of that electorate segment are starting to ask the question of what the Democrats have done for them (or perhaps to them) over the last number of years.

 

[azgreg]

Not with the current inflation.

I know what you mean. I was just messing with you. :2razz:

 

[legalimmigrant]

I got it! Caitlyn! Not only a woman, but a woman with a truckload of Olympic medals, was on Wheaties, and knows Kim! Also, she opened a path to the ladies restrooms for all perverts and, by that brave act, made this country a better place to live.

 

[matchlight]

matchlight, one movie was The Buccaneer that had Heston playing Jackson.

Did you also know January 8th (Battle of New Orleans) was celebrated just as much as the 4th of July before the Civil War?

He was also the ONLY President to pay off the national debt.

He also hated the British and Indians fiercely. Even after the Cherokee Nation won their court case, he blatantly forcibly moved them along the Trail of Tears anyway.
He told the chief justice,... OK, you have your ruling, no enforce it.

I didn't know Heston had played Jackson in two movies. The one I saw was "The President's Lady," from 1953, with Susan Hayward. I also didn't know the Battle of New Orleans had been celebrated that way, or that he'd challenged the Supreme Court about the Cherokees. He also challenged it over the issue of a national bank, justifying his position in what's usually called the Veto Speech of 1836. It's no slight to Harriet Tubman to note she was a second-rank figure in our history, compared to a president--let alone one as important as Jackson.

 

[jamesrage]

I had known, she had existed. But, why not pay homage to an important and really well known person from a minority like Einstein?

Jews might be considered a ethnic or religious minority nut they are not a racial minority, people would just see it as one white guy replaced with another white guy..

 

[joG]

Jews might be considered a ethnic or religious minority nut they are not a racial minority, people would just see it as one white guy replaced with another white guy..

Let them eat their hearts out. :mrgreen:

 

[jamesrage]

Let them eat their hearts out. :mrgreen:

Another reason why he shouldn't be on American currency is because his accomplishment was not done in the US and was done before he became an American citizen.

 

[joG]

Another reason why he shouldn't be on American currency is because his accomplishment was not done in the US and was done before he became an American citizen.

So let's just leave it as it is till there is consensus.