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Hegseth intends to rename USNS Harvey Milk

Is our military more effective by doing this?
Is this money well spent? This will cost money that could be spent elsewhere, correct?
 

Military service is irrelevant to having a USNS ship named. Such ships are frequently named for people with zero military experience.
 
ncguy said:
Is our military more effective by doing this?
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IMO? The answer is yes. There are many areas of concern that the military command has to deal with, and pride in service is one of them.

ncguy said:
Is this money well spent? This will cost money that could be spent elsewhere, correct?
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How much money do you think it costs to rename a ship? I ask because I presume you must have some source since it was YOU who raised the issue of cost.
 
So it's ok to waste money if it's not a lot? Stupid attitude
Or do you think this is magically free? Maybe you do lol

And you actually think this makes our military more effective? Lolololololol
 
MAGAnificent said:
I happen to be a veteran and I don't think all veterans should have ships named after them simply for having been a veteran. Only those with special accomplishments.
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So we should rename, for example, The Sullivans. The only thing they did was die...
 
Safiel said:
Military service is irrelevant to having a USNS ship named. Such ships are frequently named for people with zero military experience.
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Did you miss the rest of the post, or do you only see what you think is important?

Ships are usually named for someone related to honorable naval service, or in government holding public office with some connection to the service deserving of the honor of a ship being named after them.
 
In July 2016, Ray Mabus, then United States Secretary of the Navy, advised Congress that he intended to name the John Lewis-class oilers after prominent civil rights leaders

His service wasn't honorable? Other than being gay?

I saw where you think this waste of money makes the navy more effective lololololol
 
Captain Adverse said:
I read that same article before I posted. Are you suggesting that he earned the ship naming honor simply for being the first openly gay man to be elected to public office in California?
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Didnt read it very well then.

"A John Lewis-class oiler — a group of ships specifically to be named after prominent civil rights leaders and activists — Harvey Milk has officially been in service since November 2021 when she was christened and launched." link​


That you might not agree with his political significance and activism isnt the point. The point is he completely fits the naming criteria of that group of ships. And I'd guess that's a solid reason they chose to use such criteria for a group of ships...to remind people of the significance of public service and efforts for change and equality.

No surprise there that an unfortunate number of Americans dont believe in that. Women, blacks, gays, etc. shoulda all stayed at the back of the bus.
 
Pride in service is why the ship should be named after him.

Tell us why you disagree.
 
The USNS Harvey Milk is a John Lewis class ship.

What did John Lewis do?

Should we rename the whole class for it being too woke?
 
ncguy said:
So it's ok to waste money if it's not a lot? Stupid attitude
Or do you think this is magically free? Maybe you do lol
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You are the one asserting it is a waste of money. I have pointed out both why I think the action was taken, and why it is a valid one IMO.

ncguy said:
And you actually think this makes our military more effective? Lolololololol
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Out of curiosity, have you served in any branch of the U.S. Military? I ask because your posts don't give the impression that you have because it's clear you have no idea about the importance of individual pride, esprit de corps, and high morale among the services.


His service was not "honorable" because he received an "OTHER than honorable discharge." Do try to pay attention.
 
Feel free to prove this waste of money improves the fighting ability of the navy lol

I am asserting it costs money
Do you disagree? Yes it no?
 

Are our military services not proud of our gay, female, minority, etc. service people? What about our gay, female, minority service people...arent they proud to serve their country? Making the same sacrifices? Paying the same prices?
 
Jezcoe said:
The USNS Harvey Milk is a John Lewis class ship.

What did John Lewis do?

Should we rename the whole class for it being too woke?
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It's not just the gay guy whose name they want to erase from the stern of a US Navy ship. Of course, this tale is from one of the worst lame-stream librul media so it may not be true.

 
ncguy said:
Feel free to prove this waste of money improves the fighting ability of the navy lol
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Anything that improves morale and fighting spirit improves the combat abilities of the service members. I begin to think you have no military service in your history.

ncguy said:
I am asserting it costs money
Do you disagree? Yes it no?
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Everything costs money. In this case, money determined to be well-spent by the Sec-Def.

Let me know when you hold said Office, and then you can act accordingly.

I am done with you. Tagline time.
 
Yeah; somebody needs to scrub Anne Franke and Rosa Parks from the history books, too, those two did nothing !
 
As if we needed any more proof that republicans hate gays.
 
I begin to think you can't prove your claim of higher morale.
Multiple posts, zero proof

Lol, hegseth says it's well spent? Lolololololololol
And you mindlessly believe that? Lololololololol
 

Why do you despise the sacrifice that Harvey Milk made?
 
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