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Headlines are wrong: DADT has not been repealed

Really? Then why are you on the computer, because I'm pretty sure that computers were never mentioned in the Bible? I can do over the top arguments too.

Besides, Jesus never actually said that people of differing religions could marry either. He also never said that people of differing races could marry.

I'm pretty sure that Jesus taught that it was okay to do as long as it didn't break his rule (love thy neighbor as thyself) or the Ten Commandments. I don't remember ever reading anything that said that if Jesus didn't personally approve it, then it was bad or immoral.

You point proves it. His rule was one man, one woman as it was from the beginnig when God created them that way. No homosexual marriage
 
You point proves it. His rule was one man, one woman as it was from the beginnig when God created them that way. No homosexual marriage

Jesus never forbid homosexual marriage. You are the one who keeps interpreting what he said that way.
 
It is that type of thinking that is perverting the Church to water down the Bible and reject God's word and do what man thinks is right.

'christians' have been doing precisely that for 2000 years... well... not what man thinks is right... what people want to do is more like it.

we don't wanna cut off the tips of foreskins and the hell what Jesus' appointed teacher thinks, Paul overruled him.

and set an example that 'christians' have been following ever since.

geo.
 
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Jesus said a man and a woman. No other way was acceptable. No room for gays. Churchs that marry gays go against what Jesus said

Matthew 19:2-6 (New King James Version)

2 And great multitudes followed Him, and He healed them there.
3 The Pharisees also came to Him, testing Him, and saying to Him, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for just any reason?”
4 And He answered and said to them, “Have you not read that He who made[a]them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’ 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’?[c] 6 So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.”


He didn't exclude brother and sister from that did he?
 
Jesus never forbid homosexual marriage. You are the one who keeps interpreting what he said that way.

No I am taking Jesus word as it is printed. You are trying to take it out of context to justify a sin against God.

Where did Jesus or God say it is no longer an abomination to God?
 
'christians' have been doing precisely that for 2000 years... well... not what man thinks is right... what people want to do is more like it.

we don't wanna cut off the tips of foreskins and the hell what Jesus' appointed teacher thinks, Paul overruled him.

and set an example that 'christians' have been following ever since.

geo.

Where did Paul over rule anything Jesus said?
 
No I am taking Jesus word as it is printed. You are trying to take it out of context to justify a sin against God.

Where did Jesus or God say it is no longer an abomination to God?

Where did either say that it was an abomination? Last I looked, people wrote the Bible. Anyone can claim God talked to them.

I am really tired of this particular conversation however, since it is OT and has little to do with the legal marriage, and nothing to do with DADT.
 
No I am taking Jesus word as it is printed. You are trying to take it out of context to justify a sin against God.

Where did Jesus or God say it is no longer an abomination to God?

Where did Jesus say "Love Thy Neighbour (unless he's a homo).
 
What are you talking about?

What I'm talking about is about as relevant as what you talk about bro.

Thankfully, I don't use a 2000 year old book written by some dudes in the desert to inform my opinion of a people, who mean me no harm, and just wanna do what they wanna do.
 
Please post the relevant scripture.

In the scripture I posted It says leave his father. Would not have to leve if it was his sister. Show where the Bible says it is ok.

Here is scripture show where the Bible says these things are no longer an abomination to God

Leviticus 18:6-30 (New King James Version)

6 ‘None of you shall approach anyone who is near of kin to him, to uncover his nakedness: I am the LORD. 7 The nakedness of your father or the nakedness of your mother you shall not uncover. She is your mother; you shall not uncover her nakedness. 8 The nakedness of your father’s wife you shall not uncover; it is your father’s nakedness. 9 The nakedness of your sister, the daughter of your father, or the daughter of your mother, whether born at home or elsewhere, their nakedness you shall not uncover. 10 The nakedness of your son’s daughter or your daughter’s daughter, their nakedness you shall not uncover; for theirs is your own nakedness. 11 The nakedness of your father’s wife’s daughter, begotten by your father—she is your sister—you shall not uncover her nakedness. 12 You shall not uncover the nakedness of your father’s sister; she is near of kin to your father. 13 You shall not uncover the nakedness of your mother’s sister, for she is near of kin to your mother. 14 You shall not uncover the nakedness of your father’s brother. You shall not approach his wife; she is your aunt. 15 You shall not uncover the nakedness of your daughter-in-law—she is your son’s wife—you shall not uncover her nakedness. 16 You shall not uncover the nakedness of your brother’s wife; it is your brother’s nakedness. 17 You shall not uncover the nakedness of a woman and her daughter, nor shall you take her son’s daughter or her daughter’s daughter, to uncover her nakedness. They are near of kin to her. It is wickedness. 18 Nor shall you take a woman as a rival to her sister, to uncover her nakedness while the other is alive.
19 ‘Also you shall not approach a woman to uncover her nakedness as long as she is in her customary impurity. 20 Moreover you shall not lie carnally with your neighbor’s wife, to defile yourself with her. 21 And you shall not let any of your descendants pass through the fire to Molech, nor shall you profane the name of your God: I am the LORD. 22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination. 23 Nor shall you mate with any animal, to defile yourself with it. Nor shall any woman stand before an animal to mate with it. It is perversion.
24 ‘Do not defile yourselves with any of these things; for by all these the nations are defiled, which I am casting out before you. 25 For the land is defiled; therefore I visit the punishment of its iniquity upon it, and the land vomits out its inhabitants. 26 You shall therefore keep My statutes and My judgments, and shall not commit any of these abominations, either any of your own nation or any stranger who dwells among you 27 (for all these abominations the men of the land have done, who were before you, and thus the land is defiled), 28 lest the land vomit you out also when you defile it, as it vomited out the nations that were before you. 29 For whoever commits any of these abominations, the persons who commit them shall be cut off from among their people.
30 ‘Therefore you shall keep My ordinance, so that you do not commit any of these abominable customs which were committed before you, and that you do not defile yourselves by them: I am the LORD your God.’”
 
What I'm talking about is about as relevant as what you talk about bro.

Thankfully, I don't use a 2000 year old book written by some dudes in the desert to inform my opinion of a people, who mean me no harm, and just wanna do what they wanna do.

You do not believe the Bible so why do you even get in a discussion about it.
 
Then I guess the church and Christians should just shut up and let the hate speech from gays go by

What does that have to do with anything I said?

Look, lets get one thing straight here pal, hate from either side is wrong, especially when physical violence is involved.

But if you think you're not gonna cause ire, by denying equal rights to people for arbitrary reasons, then you're out of your ****ing mind.

I do not condone denial of rights due to religious dogma, and I do not condone violence against Christains for their beliefs either.

But when it comes down to it, a secular government, should not be using Christian beliefs as policy influents.
 
Read my sig, the state is secular. You may as well be arguing what Unga-Bunga the cave man prophet said.

There is no seporation of church and people. Try again.
 
What does that have to do with anything I said?

Look, lets get one thing straight here pal, hate from either side is wrong, especially when physical violence is involved.

But if you think you're not gonna cause ire, by denying equal rights to people for arbitrary reasons, then you're out of your ****ing mind.

I do not condone denial of rights due to religious dogma, and I do not condone violence against Christains for their beliefs either.

But when it comes down to it, a secular government, should not be using Christian beliefs as policy influents.

Fine we should let all immoral behavior happen then. I mean polygamy and incest between consenting parties and pedophiles and bestiality . It is all good just peoples desires
 
What does that have to do with anything I said?

Look, lets get one thing straight here pal, hate from either side is wrong, especially when physical violence is involved.

But if you think you're not gonna cause ire, by denying equal rights to people for arbitrary reasons, then you're out of your ****ing mind.

I do not condone denial of rights due to religious dogma, and I do not condone violence against Christains for their beliefs either.

But when it comes down to it, a secular government, should not be using Christian beliefs as policy influents.

Ahh so secular ethics, while subjective and relative to the individual, are not arbitrary.

Please explain.
 
Fine we should let all immoral behavior happen then. I mean polygamy and incest between consenting parties and pedophiles and bestiality . It is all good just peoples desires

Oh for ****s sake, just when I thought we might have a decent dialogue you throw in every straw man in the book.

Fantastic.

I love it.

"Let the gays marry? Let them serve in the military? OH DEAR! Then the pedophiles will be allowed to rape children!!!!!"

I wish you realized how ridiculous you sound.
 
Oh for ****s sake, just when I thought we might have a decent dialogue you throw in every straw man in the book.

Fantastic.

I love it.

"Let the gays marry? Let them serve in the military? OH DEAR! Then the pedophiles will be allowed to rape children!!!!!"

I wish you realized how ridiculous you sound.

Since you like to get things straight, let's get this straight: gay marriage has NOTHING to do with DADT in any form, at all. They are 2 completely different issues.
 
In the scripture I posted It says leave his father. Would not have to leve if it was his sister. Show where the Bible says it is ok.

Here is scripture show where the Bible says these things are no longer an abomination to God

Leviticus 18:6-30 (New King James Version)

I thought we were talking about Jesus and the New Covenant.
 
Oh for ****s sake, just when I thought we might have a decent dialogue you throw in every straw man in the book.

Fantastic.

I love it.

"Let the gays marry? Let them serve in the military? OH DEAR! Then the pedophiles will be allowed to rape children!!!!!"

I wish you realized how ridiculous you sound.

It shows what hypocrites gays are, only they have a right to their lifestyle and all others are immorale.
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