Hate Speech

[gooseneck]

Should hate speech be punished when the speech contains racist content?

Follow up question for those who voted yes: At what times of day does the first amendment apply to citizens who happen to be racist?

 

[ttwtt78640]

Should hate speech be punished when the speech contains racist content?

Follow up question for those who voted yes: At what times of day does the first amendment apply to citizens who happen to be racist?

If by punished you mean treated as a crime then no.

The First Amendment to the United States Constitution protects speech no matter how offensive its content. To be clear, the First Amendment does not protect behavior that crosses the line into targeted harassment or threats, or that creates a pervasively hostile environment. But merely offensive or bigoted speech does not rise to that level, and determining when conduct crosses that line is a legal question that requires examination on a case-by-case basis.

Hate Speech and Hate Crime | Advocacy, Legislation & Issues

 

[Lovebug]

Should hate speech be punished when the speech contains racist content?

Haters gonna hate.

Follow up question for those who voted yes: At what times of day does the first amendment apply to citizens who happen to be racist?

Only bc, before cofvefe that is

 

[Felis Leo]

Should hate speech be punished when the speech contains racist content?

Follow up question for those who voted yes: At what times of day does the first amendment apply to citizens who happen to be racist?

Punished socially? Yes. People who are openly racist should be subject to the hatred, scorn and obloquy of their peers.

Punished economically? Yes. I would refrain from doing business with open racists as well.

Punished legally? No. The government should not have the power to imprison people for holding toxic viewpoints that do not translate into racist action or calls for racist action. Once the precedent is set that the government can charge you not for action but for opinions stated in words and writing, that opens to the doors to tyranny.

 

[AGENT J]

Should hate speech be punished when the speech contains racist content?

Youll have to be more specific . .

legally, in general . . . no of course not . . but i could make up a specific scenario where it is and should be like hate crimes, insisting violence, slander etc

outside of the law anybody can be punished for anything they say . . .as long as it doesnt break the law and or violate rights thats how the world works.

 

[Lisa]

Should hate speech be punished when the speech contains racist content?

Follow up question for those who voted yes: At what times of day does the first amendment apply to citizens who happen to be racist?

We don't have hate speech laws in the US because it is protected from arrest and being jailed or fined by the state under the First Amendment until it becomes a credible imminent threat to others. That said, you will be held accountable both socially and often professionally and you will be subject to the criticism of others for your actions. You can also suffer civil penalties for your words and actions.

 

[Daisy]

Should hate speech be punished when the speech contains racist content?

Follow up question for those who voted yes: At what times of day does the first amendment apply to citizens who happen to be racist?

Only if followed by threats of bodily harm...

 

[Grizzly Adams]

The government should not have the power to imprison people for holding toxic viewpoints that do not translate into racist action or calls for racist action.

So a racist person should face prison for boycotting black-owned stores? Or for calling for the boycott of white-owned stores?

 

[gooseneck]

We don't have hate speech laws in the US because it is protected from arrest and being jailed or fined by the state under the First Amendment until it becomes a credible imminent threat to others. That said, you will be held accountable both socially and often professionally and you will be subject to the criticism of others for your actions. You can also suffer civil penalties for your words and actions.

Your comment was a threat to my safety according to me. Should I arrest you now or later?

 

[Felis Leo]

So a racist person should face prison for boycotting black-owned stores? Or for calling for the boycott of white-owned stores?

To clarify, I mean that racist opinions should not be criminalized unless and until it translates into criminal action with a racist motivation, Grizzly Adams. If a group of racist collectively people do not wish to frequent a particular establishment solely because it is owned or operated by people they consider racially inferior, that is disgusting, but not criminal. If they start harassing, haranguing, intimidating or otherwise physically accosting other non-racist people for frequenting that establishment, then absolutely that should be criminalized.

 

[Lisa]

Your comment was a threat to my safety according to me. Should I arrest you now or later?

You should probaby see a doctor if my words are a credible imminent threat of harm or lawless action to you.

 

[joko104]

Punished socially? Yes. People who are openly racist should be subject to the hatred, scorn and obloquy of their peers.

Punished economically? Yes. I would refrain from doing business with open racists as well.

Punished legally? No. The government should not have the power to imprison people for holding toxic viewpoints that do not translate into racist action or calls for racist action. Once the precedent is set that the government can charge you not for action but for opinions stated in words and writing, that opens to the doors to tyranny.

I do not agree with publicly harassing people or socially campaigning to get people to "hate" and verbally harass another person because you don't like what they said or their opinions.

 

[joko104]

Should hate speech be punished when the speech contains racist content?

Follow up question for those who voted yes: At what times of day does the first amendment apply to citizens who happen to be racist?

Of course not.

 

[joko104]

To clarify, I mean that racist opinions should not be criminalized unless and until it translates into criminal action with a racist motivation, Grizzly Adams. If a group of racist collectively people do not wish to frequent a particular establishment solely because it is owned or operated by people they consider racially inferior, that is disgusting, but not criminal. If they start harassing, haranguing, intimidating or otherwise physically accosting other non-racist people for frequenting that establishment, then absolutely that should be criminalized.

What about harassing, haranguing, intimidating and otherwise physically accosting "racist people?"

For example, all Republicans and Trump supporters as many Democrats including in Congress call for? According to what you have written, anywhere you go you should be harassed, harangued, intimidated, and otherwise physically accosted anytime you are in public.

What about people on probation for pedophilia, rape and/or other crimes of violence? Should they be harassed, harangued, intimidated and otherwise physically accosted - or is raping a child vastly less than someone who used the N-word?

The leftwing always wins, they always can shift people to the left a little more in each battle. Now if they decide you are a racist, you are worst than a pedophile rapist - and predictably Republicans dash to extremes to prove they aren't racists. Many "Conservatives Republicans" are the liberal Democrats of just a couple decades ago. The Liberal Democrats of a couple decades ago are now of the National Socialist Workers Party, which is a marriage with the super rich corporations on the world.

 

[Felis Leo]

What about harassing, haranguing, intimidating and otherwise physically accosting "racist people?"

I hold everyone to the same standard joko. Harassment is, in most jurisdictions in the United Statees, a criminal offense and does not become non criminal just because the targets of harassment are presumed to deserve it.

 

[ecofarm]

The US is correct. Europe is wrong. To be prosecuted in the US, criminal speech must (1) have a specific audience, (2) have a specific target and (3) have a realistic chance of being acted upon.

 

[Integrityrespec]

Should hate speech be punished when the speech contains racist content?

Follow up question for those who voted yes: At what times of day does the first amendment apply to citizens who happen to be racist?

Hate speech is unfortunately and should be free speech. If you stop Hate Speech, who decides what is hate speech.

 

[gooseneck]

You should probaby see a doctor if my words are a credible imminent threat of harm or lawless action to you.

The point I was trying to make had absolutely nothing to do with the state of my mental health. I am sorry about your inability to decipher ideas.

 

[Lisa]

The point I was trying to make had absolutely nothing to do with the state of my mental health. I am sorry about your inability to decipher ideas.

If you claim that my words are a credible threat you need to be able to prove it. The claim of any person must be able to be verified because their words alone are not sufficient. Someone who is delusional cannot threaten the free speech rights of others because they see a threat where none existed.

 

[Blarkin]

Punished socially? Yes. People who are openly racist should be subject to the hatred, scorn and obloquy of their peers.

Punished economically? Yes. I would refrain from doing business with open racists as well.

Punished legally? No. The government should not have the power to imprison people for holding toxic viewpoints that do not translate into racist action or calls for racist action. Once the precedent is set that the government can charge you not for action but for opinions stated in words and writing, that opens to the doors to tyranny.

No. You are no better than the racists you are inciting violence toward. There are no right or wrong opinions. We all have them and at the end of the day, they are worth all the same. Nothing. We are all unique individuals with unique emotions and thought processes. Calling for hatred and scorn to people because they don't share your opinion is hypocrisy at its' finest. We are free not to agree with people. We are free to agree with people. We are free to respect that other people have perspectives that are far from our own without fear of censorship. That is what makes this country a great one. Not many people like racists. And that is their right. But it is a racist's right to dislike anyone who does not share their opinion as well.
We are not talking about political correctness. We are simply talking freedom to be ourselves, think for ourselves and even share our opinions without being attacked for them.

 

[Felis Leo]

No. You are no better than the racists you are inciting violence toward. There are no right or wrong opinions. We all have them and at the end of the day, they are worth all the same. Nothing. We are all unique individuals with unique emotions and thought processes. Calling for hatred and scorn to people because they don't share your opinion is hypocrisy at its' finest. We are free not to agree with people. We are free to agree with people. We are free to respect that other people have perspectives that are far from our own without fear of censorship. That is what makes this country a great one. Not many people like racists. And that is their right. But it is a racist's right to dislike anyone who does not share their opinion as well.
We are not talking about political correctness. We are simply talking freedom to be ourselves, think for ourselves and even share our opinions without being attacked for them.

 

[Glitch]

Should hate speech be punished when the speech contains racist content?

Follow up question for those who voted yes: At what times of day does the first amendment apply to citizens who happen to be racist?

Anyone who supports any form of "hate speech" are anti-American freaks who utterly despise free speech and the First Amendment. Naturally leftist freaks only consider "free speech" to be that with which they agree. All other speech they disagree with suddenly becomes "hate speech." A common leftist fascist ploy.

 

[truthatallcost]

Punished socially? Yes. People who are openly racist should be subject to the hatred, scorn and obloquy of their peers.

Punished economically? Yes. I would refrain from doing business with open racists as well.

Punished legally? No. The government should not have the power to imprison people for holding toxic viewpoints that do not translate into racist action or calls for racist action. Once the precedent is set that the government can charge you not for action but for opinions stated in words and writing, that opens to the doors to tyranny.

It's already here, and we're still discussing it like a hypothetical. And by the way, you do support government enacted punishment of speech. You just don't know that you do, or admit to it, as it might limit your Like count.

 

[Chagos]

It's already here, and we're still discussing it like a hypothetical. And by the way, you do support government enacted punishment of speech. You just don't know that you do, or admit to it, as it might limit your Like count.

One really can't help but feel for you, what with so many calling you out on your spoutings that are generated by your Fascist-worshiping and Jew-hating White Supremacist ideology.

Nevertheless, your outrage is unfounded, seeing how you're not punished for any of it by any other way than described above, "government enacted" thus not being any issue here.

Short of you brandishing a tiki-torch and running around chanting demands of killing (or maiming) whoever (insert your favourite of the day), you'll thus remain pretty safe.

 

[Chagos]

It's already here, and we're still discussing it like a hypothetical. And by the way, you do support government enacted punishment of speech. You just don't know that you do, or admit to it, as it might limit your Like count.

One really can't help but feel for you, what with so many calling you out on your spoutings that are generated by your Fascist-worshiping and Jew-hating White Supremacist ideology.

Nevertheless, your outrage is unfounded, seeing how you're not punished for any of it by any other way than described above, "government enacted" thus not being any issue here.

Short of you brandishing a tiki-torch and running around chanting demands of killing (or maiming) whoever (insert your favourite of the day), you'll thus remain pretty safe.