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KILLEEN, Texas—A jury of military officers on Friday found Nidal Hasan guilty of multiple counts of murder and attempted murder in connection with a mass shooting at Fort Hood in 2009 that killed 13 people and injured more than 30 others.
A jury found Maj. Nidal Hasan guilty of multiple counts of murder and attempted murder in connection with a mass shooting at Fort Hood in 2009 that killed 13 people and injured more than 30 others. Miguel Bustillo and Ashby Jones discuss the verdict. Photo: AP.
The verdict was widely expected given that Maj. Hasan admitted at the start of the court martial that he had shot soldiers who were preparing to deploy to Afghanistan, saying he was trying to defend fellow Muslims who he believed had been unfairly targeted by U.S. forces.
In total, the Army psychiatrist was convicted of 13 counts of premeditated murder and 32 counts of attempted premeditated murder.
Hasan Found Guilty in Fort Hood Shooting - WSJ.com
The just will decide Monday as to what to do with this instigator of workplace violence. Might Chelsea Manning have a cellmate? Could Edward Snowden make it a threesome? More exciting tales yet to come on how social engineering can help you.
Here's hoping for the death penalty. He's earned it.
I am pro capital punishment, however in this case I believe we should deny Nidal Hasan martyrdom. Let him spend the rest of his life in solitary confinement. He wants to die, I hope they don't give him what he wants
And then bury him in pigskin.
I am pro capital punishment, however in this case I believe we should deny Nidal Hasan martyrdom. Let him spend the rest of his life in solitary confinement. He wants to die, I hope they don't give him what he wants
Feeding him for the rest of his sorry life is more punishment for us than we deserve. After thousands of years of domestication, there is still only one way to deal with a mad dog, and we should get on with it. Besides, he won't qualify as a martyr if he gets some pork shoved into one end or the other before he checks out.
I am pro capital punishment, however in this case I believe we should deny Nidal Hasan martyrdom. Let him spend the rest of his life in solitary confinement. He wants to die, I hope they don't give him what he wants
That is not justice, that is vengeance.
Justice is not about revenge.
That is not justice, that is vengeance.
Justice is not about revenge.
LOL - I agree on both accounts.I'm hoping for a firing squad!!!!
In a way it would be fitting for him to rot in Supermax,
however the way they've spoiled him with his medical needs?
he just needs to be executed!!!
And then bury him in pigskin.
Good idea!
Feeding him for the rest of his sorry life is more punishment for us than we deserve. After thousands of years of domestication, there is still only one way to deal with a mad dog, and we should get on with it. Besides, he won't qualify as a martyr if he gets some pork shoved into one end or the other before he checks out.
Anyone know why he wasn't permitted to plead guilty and avoid the death sentence, but Sgt. Bales was?
"Permitted?" The accused gets to decide how to plead.
KILLEEN, Texas—A jury of military officers on Friday found Nidal Hasan guilty of multiple counts of murder and attempted murder in connection with a mass shooting at Fort Hood in 2009 that killed 13 people and injured more than 30 others.
A jury found Maj. Nidal Hasan guilty of multiple counts of murder and attempted murder in connection with a mass shooting at Fort Hood in 2009 that killed 13 people and injured more than 30 others. Miguel Bustillo and Ashby Jones discuss the verdict. Photo: AP.
The verdict was widely expected given that Maj. Hasan admitted at the start of the court martial that he had shot soldiers who were preparing to deploy to Afghanistan, saying he was trying to defend fellow Muslims who he believed had been unfairly targeted by U.S. forces.
In total, the Army psychiatrist was convicted of 13 counts of premeditated murder and 32 counts of attempted premeditated murder.
Hasan Found Guilty in Fort Hood Shooting - WSJ.com
The jury will decide Monday as to what to do with this instigator of workplace violence. Might Chelsea Manning have a cellmate? Could Edward Snowden make it a threesome? More exciting tales yet to come on how social engineering can help you.
but Army rules prohibit a judge from accepting a guilty plea to charges that carry the death penalty.
Let us assume that his bolded statement is true, I believe that it probably is to a large extent. We knowingly target persons even when we know innocent collateral casualties are very likely.
Yes, that's what happens in a war. In fact I don't know of any exception.
How does this make us any different then him?
Who is "them"? Terrorists? I believe the people believing in democracy and human rights are very different from those who attack little girsl, women, Chrstians, Gays, Jews, atheists, and so on.
Every law in the land is 'government sanctioned'. By saying 'brown folks' are you claiming there is racism involved here?Yet the reactions here are very different. Is one acceptable simply because it is government sanctioned murder or is the difference because these were Americans and those brown folk are from some place else?
It seems so hypocritical to me. Am I missing something
I think you are missing something.
"or are people just as brainwashed as they seem?"
I know. It's always the other guy who is 'brainwashed'.
As long as its the other guys getting the shaft its ok.
Who got "the shaft" in this case?
Why are so few people, none of which I have seen here, making some of the previous comments on what current and past administrations should endure as a result for similar actions/decisions?
Not quite sure what you mean.
Except clearly they don't, as Bales was permitted to plead guilty to 16 capital murder charges and thus make a deal in which he avoids the DP.Interesting, didn't realize the army had this sort of rule, but it explains it right there in this article.
"but Army rules prohibit a judge from accepting a guilty plea to charges that carry the death penalty."
Except clearly they don't, as Bales was permitted to plead guilty to 16 capital murder charges and thus make a deal in which he avoids the DP.
Yes, that's what happens in a war. In fact I don't know of any exception.
Does this somehow make it more acceptable because at least in my view it is largely shrugged off by most Americans. As long as it isn't happening to those we care about people seem detached and largely uncaring.
Who is "them"? Terrorists? I believe the people believing in democracy and human rights are very different from those who attack little girsl, women, Chrstians, Gays, Jews, atheists, and so on.
While we may not be targeting people for those reasons we kill them all the same. In the end does it really matter? They are killed either way. At least to me it doesn't really matter if you killed me for any of the mentioned reason or you killed me because you wanted the person 30 yards away from me dead, I don't want to be killed.
Every law in the land is 'government sanctioned'. By saying 'brown folks' are you claiming there is racism involved here?
I wasn't trying to imply a racist motive. I meant to say what is happening is half a world away to people and places most of us have never met or seen.
What I meant by government sanctioned, if you walked up and killed a random innocent person in the US the government would imprison you or execute you for murder. If the government orders you to kill someone it has deemed an enemy of the country (innocent or not) you are not only expected to carry out that order but you are often proclaimed a hero, protecting the people of the US, honorably serve your country, ect. So it really inst about the killing of people that seems to be wrong but instead making sure you are only killing the people they want dead.
I think you are missing something.
I know. It's always the other guy who is 'brainwashed'.
Or perhaps I view every innocent human life as just as valuable as the next and do not view the killing of 13 Americans in any different light as I view us killing 13 Afghani. Yet it seems many if not most Americans do.
Who got "the shaft" in this case?
Thousands of innocent people in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan.
Not quite sure what you mean.
It was my entire point. I just sorta rambled along and did not make a very good point of it.
Some people in this thread have expressed their desire that Hasan be treated in a very bad way for killing Americans. My point was Hasan killed 13 people and some Americans seem to be full of outrage and hate toward him. So why do people not express the same detest and outrage over the US government's actions which have killed thousands of innocent people over the past decade? The american people seem to have a us vs them mindset and completely forget or do not care that these are people just like you and I and deserve to live just as much as you or I (innocent people).
If everyone would show as much unhappiness each time a innocent person was killed regardless of which side it was on then perhaps war and killing wouldn't be such an easy option.
Well it is a war and innocents are killed, just as in 9/11, 7/7, the bombing of Australian vacationers in Bali and so on. What do you expect people to do?Does this somehow make it more acceptable because at least in my view it is largely shrugged off by most Americans. As long as it isn't happening to those we care about people seem detached and largely uncaring.
Yes, it has already been noted that innocents are killed in a time of war. There is no denying that.While we may not be targeting people for those reasons we kill them all the same. In the end does it really matter? They are killed either way. At least to me it doesn't really matter if you killed me for any of the mentioned reason or you killed me because you wanted the person 30 yards away from me dead, I don't want to be killed
It isn't happening half a world away. terrorism is international;it's everywhere. It just happened in Boston in fact.I wasn't trying to imply a racist motive. I meant to say what is happening is half a world away to people and places most of us have never met or seen.
What I meant by government sanctioned, if you walked up and killed a random innocent person in the US the government would imprison you or execute you for murder. If the government orders you to kill someone it has deemed an enemy of the country (innocent or not) you are not only expected to carry out that order but you are often proclaimed a hero, protecting the people of the US, honorably serve your country, ect. So it really inst about the killing of people that seems to be wrong but instead making sure you are only killing the people they want dead.
Or perhaps I view every innocent human life as just as valuable as the next and do not view the killing of 13 Americans in any different light as I view us killing 13 Afghani. Yet it seems many if not most Americans do.
And most of them by terrorists killing their own people.Thousands of innocent people in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan.
No problem. None of us are professionals.It was my entire point. I just sorta rambled along and did not make a very good point of it.
Some people in this thread have expressed their desire that Hasan be treated in a very bad way for killing Americans. My point was Hasan killed 13 people and some Americans seem to be full of outrage and hate toward him. So why do people not express the same detest and outrage over the US government's actions which have killed thousands of innocent people over the past decade? The american people seem to have a us vs them mindset and completely forget or do not care that these are people just like you and I and deserve to live just as much as you or I (innocent people).
If we did that every time someone was killed, war or not, we would all wind up as depressed neurotic paranoiacs.If everyone would show as much unhappiness each time a innocent person was killed regardless of which side it was on then perhaps war and killing wouldn't be such an easy option.
And your point is...??
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