Hackers Access Palin's Personal E-Mail, Post Some Online

[GottaHurt]

Re: Hackers break into Sarah Palin's e-mail account

I think for arguments sake that we can assume that the news article is correct.

You can assume.

That her staffer or whoever acknowledged that she copied all business e-mails to her real e-mail address is telling the truth, thus, she does perform some amount of business using her personal account.

What staffer? They've provided no confirmation, just someone from Palins staff? There's no proof of anything here. Everything is vague or non existent.

 

[Gill]

Re: Hackers break into Sarah Palin's e-mail account

You deserve no supporting facts, on this or any other issue, until you provide the facts supporting your claims that the facts in the KOS article proving Palin could have killed the "Road to Nowhere" are false.

Or... admit they are accurate.

Live by the sword...

Facts in a KOS article... that's hilarious :roll:

 

[ADK_Forever]

Re: Hackers break into Sarah Palin's e-mail account

Facts in a KOS article... that's hilarious :roll:

Ahhhh, another candidate. Go ahead, take the baton from Gotta and prove them wrong. He couldn't do it. Maybe you can. :mrgreen:

And, as Joe Friday used to say,

"Just the facts ma'm. Just the facts".

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

Re: Hackers break into Sarah Palin's e-mail account

that's rather hypocritical adk.....


you get all bent out of shape for me posting an AP story through FOX news, but you think Kos is? :lol:

 

[Gill]

Re: Hackers break into Sarah Palin's e-mail account

Ahhhh, another candidate. Go ahead, take the baton from Gotta and prove them wrong. He couldn't do it. Maybe you can. :mrgreen:

And, as Joe Friday used to say,

"Just the facts ma'm. Just the facts".

Post the link and I'll look at it. I'm not going to search the whole website for a link you are touting, especially something from KOS.

I only go to KOS when I need a good laugh.

 

[scourge99]

Re: Hackers break into Sarah Palin's e-mail account

Why? It's not like news articles have a history of stretching the truth or making conclusory assumptions.

If we go down the route where news articles are lies and fabrications then we have nothing to debate. That's where 95% of our info comes from ( the other 5% being public speeches or interviews, etc). Yes, news articles aren't foolproof but to cherry-pick just because its contrary to your argument is fallacious. For arguments sake, well regarded news agencies must be considered factual.

You consider that to be "doing government business on her personal account"?

????
I think you mis-read.

The staffer ADMITS she does some personal business on her account BUT CC's all such e-mails to her business e-mail for record keeping.

 

[ADK_Forever]

Re: Hackers break into Sarah Palin's e-mail account

Post the link and I'll look at it. I'm not going to search the whole website for a link you are touting, especially something from KOS.

I only go to KOS when I need a good laugh.

:rofl I'm not doing your work for you! :rofl

It's in this thread. find it yourself. :roll:

 

[RightinNYC]

Re: Hackers break into Sarah Palin's e-mail account

If we go down the route where news articles are lies and fabrications then we have nothing to debate. That's where 95% of our info comes from ( the other 5% being public speeches or interviews, etc). Yes, news articles aren't foolproof but to cherry-pick just because its contrary to your argument is fallacious. For arguments sake, well regarded news agencies must be considered factual.

There are two types of things in news articles: facts and analysis. A report saying "X is visiting Ohio today where she said "XYZ" is a fact and IMO, can be trusted. A report saying "X has broken ethics rules by doing government business on her personal account, sources report" is analysis, and IMO cannot be trusted without at least SOME corroborating information, especially from places like the NYT that have a history of bald partisanship.

????
I think you mis-read.

The staffer ADMITS she does some personal business on her account BUT CC's all such e-mails to her business e-mail for record keeping.

Wait, so this is all about a claim that she did personal business on her government account? I'm confused again, why would that be a big deal? And who is this staffer? Link?

 

[scourge99]

Re: Hackers break into Sarah Palin's e-mail account

There are two types of things in news articles: facts and analysis. A report saying "X is visiting Ohio today where she said "XYZ" is a fact and IMO, can be trusted. A report saying "X has broken ethics rules by doing government business on her personal account, sources report" is analysis, and IMO cannot be trusted without at least SOME corroborating information, especially from places like the NYT that have a history of bald partisanship.

The staffers quote is a fact. The news report supposedly quotes the staffer. The staffer may be wrong or the news agency is lying but a quote is still a fact.

Wait, so this is all about a claim that she did personal business on her government account? I'm confused again, why would that be a big deal? And who is this staffer? Link?

. I agree. I'm trying to MOVE this discussion on to such a debate. But people are still stuck believing that Palin does not do business from her private e-mail. Such is based on missypea's post:

Following the tone set by Cheney:




washingtonpost.com - nation, world, technology and Washington area news and headlines




It's also come out that Palin deleted both of her Yahoo accounts. What's happened to those emails?

We've all experience the transparency of the current administration. Do you want more of this type of governance?

I notice she did not include a direct link. Can anyone find this article she believes exists? Its hard to browse with a phone very efficiently

 

[Gill]

Re: Hackers break into Sarah Palin's e-mail account

:rofl I'm not doing your work for you! :rofl

It's in this thread. find it yourself. :roll:

Yeah, like I'm going through 8 pages just for the pleasure of proving you wrong. I've got better things to do than play your games.

Feel free to come back when you have a legitimate comment to share.

 

[ADK_Forever]

See yaaaaaaa! :2wave:

 

[American]

See yaaaaaaa! :2wave:

Hold your breath.

 

[GottaHurt]

Re: Hackers break into Sarah Palin's e-mail account

The staffers quote is a fact.

That has not been proven.

The news report supposedly quotes the staffer.

Exactly, supposedly quotes a staffer, whose quote has not been proven to be factual.

The staffer may be wrong or the news agency is lying but a quote is still a fact.

No, a quote is a collection of words which may or may not be factual.

I agree. I'm trying to MOVE this discussion on to such a debate. But people are still stuck believing that Palin does not do business from her private e-mail.

And people are stll claiming Palin does use her private account to conduct government business.

The onus is on the people to prove that Palin has used her private account to conduct such business.

They have not provided any evidence to substantiate their claims here.

I notice she did not include a direct link. Can anyone find this article she believes exists? Its hard to browse with a phone very efficiently

Here's the OP's original link:

washingtonpost.com - nation, world, technology and Washington area news and headlines

This is a direct link, it does contain a pop up ad that must be closed out.

 

[RightinNYC]

Re: Hackers break into Sarah Palin's e-mail account

The staffers quote is a fact. The news report supposedly quotes the staffer. The staffer may be wrong or the news agency is lying but a quote is still a fact.

...what staffer's quote? I think I must have missed this at some point, hence my confusion. :doh

Anyone care to provide a link?

 

[GottaHurt]

Re: Hackers break into Sarah Palin's e-mail account

...what staffer's quote? I think I must have missed this at some point, hence my confusion. :doh

Anyone care to provide a link?

From post #19:

"Whoops!" Palin aide Frank Bailey wrote, after addressing an e-mail to the governor's official state address. "Frank, This is not the Governor's personal account," a secretary reminded him.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaking-news/36369-hackers-access-palin-s-personal-e-mail-post-some-online-2.html#post1057734595

There's a couple of other quotes, but nothing that shows that Palin actually conducted any government business on her account.

 

[RightinNYC]

Re: Hackers break into Sarah Palin's e-mail account

From post #19:

"Whoops!" Palin aide Frank Bailey wrote, after addressing an e-mail to the governor's official state address. "Frank, This is not the Governor's personal account," a secretary reminded him.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaking-news/36369-hackers-access-palin-s-personal-e-mail-post-some-online-2.html#post1057734595

There's a couple of other quotes, but nothing that shows that Palin actually conducted any government business on her account.

Is THAT the quote that people think is a smoking gun? Holy ****, who cares? The guy probably tried to email Palin some dumbass chain forward email and accidentally sent it to her state address instead of her personal address.

In no way shape or form is that even a smidgen of an ethics problem.

 

[GottaHurt]

Re: Hackers break into Sarah Palin's e-mail account

Is THAT the quote that people think is a smoking gun? Holy ****, who cares? The guy probably tried to email Palin some dumbass chain forward email and accidentally sent it to her state address instead of her personal address.

In no way shape or form is that even a smidgen of an ethics problem.

The dems have a crew of 30+ folks in Alaska, digging up "dirt" on Palin.

If this is it, then their case is weak.

 

[Gill]

This thread, which is among several on DP, has gone 8 pages now and I'm still waiting to see one of these so-called "government e-mails on her personal account".

I guess I'll be waiting for quite a long time.

 

[ADK_Forever]

This thread, which is among several on DP, has gone 8 pages now and I'm still waiting to see one of these so-called "government e-mails on her personal account".

I guess I'll be waiting for quite a long time.

You seem to expect all information to simply jump into your lap. :roll:

 

[Gill]

You seem to expect all information to simply jump into your lap. :roll:

No, I just have this strange expectation that people supply proof of their allegations. If I was the one making an allegation, I would have proof of it. Not having any type of proof and making light of those that demand it does nothing to support your point of view.

In other words, put up or shut up.

 

[scourge99]

Re: Hackers break into Sarah Palin's e-mail account

That has not been proven.

and that's your problem. Anything that you disagree with must be so absurdly proven its impossible.

I would hope you keep such consistant skepticism in ALL the threads you post in.

They have not provided any evidence to substantiate their claims here.

What?? You want a written signed statement or something? Whats the point of news articles if you are so skeptical of their claims to the point you are? You might as well not read them.

washingtonpost.com - nation, world, technology and Washington area news and headlines

This is a direct link, it does contain a pop up ad that must be closed out.

doesn't come up on my phone. Damn.

 

[ADK_Forever]

No, I just have this strange expectation that people supply proof of their allegations. If I was the one making an allegation, I would have proof of it. Not having any type of proof and making light of those that demand it does nothing to support your point of view.

In other words, put up or shut up.

You come into a thread 8 pages late and have the nerve to demand that we repost our proof because you're too lazy to read? Are you serious?!?!?! :mrgreen:

That which you seek is here. Get off your butt and look for it.

Orrrrrrr...... as someone here already said... shut up! :rofl

 

[Gill]

You come into a thread 8 pages late and have the nerve to demand that we repost our proof because you're too lazy to read? Are you serious?!?!?! :mrgreen:

That which you seek is here. Get off your butt and look for it.

Orrrrrrr...... as someone here already said... shut up! :rofl

Actually I started posting in this thread in Page 2.

And I've been demanding and waiting for this so called "proof" ever since.

Do try and keep up with the thread.

 

[ADK_Forever]

Re: Hackers break into Sarah Palin's e-mail account

and that's your problem. Anything that you disagree with must be so absurdly proven its impossible.

I would hope you keep such consistant skepticism in ALL the threads you post in.

What?? You want a written signed statement or something? Whats the point of news articles if you are so skeptical of their claims to the point you are? You might as well not read them.

doesn't come up on my phone. Damn.

Ignore that small man behind the excuses. :rofl

That's his, and a few others here, m.o. They try to wear you down with useless questions. You know, "What's the staffer's name?" Or, "Who is the annonymous informant?" :doh

They demand stupid proof from us but, provide nothing to support their claims. I'm stiill waiting to see Gotta and Gill and Panther's proof that any of the "facts" in that KOS article are false. Just one! All I get is side stepping.

Not one of them have come forward with so much as a broken link. This is Republican diversion tactics. Nothing more.

Consider the source and then sit back and watch them whine. They're fun to watch. We need some popcorn.

 

[RightinNYC]

You seem to expect all information to simply jump into your lap. :roll:

It sounds like he's expecting ANY information to jump into his lap.