They didn't notice Holmes until he chemical bombed the theater, that actually has a more noxious smell than gasoline. And if the gas is contained properly you may never even notice it's presence until it's too late.
And a fat lot of good a semi-auto rifle is going to do you against stinger missiles, Cobra attack helicopters, M-1 tanks, and laser-guided bombs.
I'll give you a funny personal story. There was this rather small guy at a club that used to be big here. My best friends girl at the time wanted to go, we agreed but hated the place. Anyway, the place had a bunch of roided out gorillas as security and it was my round, the little jerk looks at me with credit card in hand and goes "now what the **** do you WANT?" I got smart right back and told him if he gave me any more lip I was jumping the bar and kicking his ass. He goes into this, "I've got security" spiel and I told him, "That's fine, you aren't much of a challenge and I'll be done with what I have to do before they get here". He shut up real quick, the reason I'm sharing is it isn't that much different than an assailant, they can finish the assault well before the police can get to you.I find that overly broad and simplistic. Cops are not usually available in the two or three minutes it takes someone to mug, brutalize or assault you.
why don't you tell us what laws would solve the problems you have noted without duly burdening us who are both responsible and sane?
Being restricted to an, e.g. 17 round magazine hardly constitutes "disarmed". :roll:
I am not advocating an unarmed society. I am not advocating that we all be armed and carry.
I am not a person who wants to ban guns or ammunition and take away the guns of current owners.
I am not a NRA member who puts up centerfolds of the latest and greatest high powered rifle.
Is there not some place in the middle where people can advocate for responsible gun ownership but yet have reasonable laws which protect society from turning into Deadwood?
limiting magazine size to say...20 rounds....isn't such a bad idea.
Yep, the thing is that psychopaths have plenty of household items at their disposal to make lethal weapons out of. You cannot ban enough things to make people absolutely safe.gasoline, Tide laundry detergent and vasoline.
a pipe, fertilizer, diesel fuel, a model rocket igniter and a 9 volt battery.
How would we go about doing that?
There are safegaurds in place and nothing about Holmes caused any of them to kick in. What next?
Traffic Fatalities in 2010 Drop to Lowest Level in Recorded History | National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA)
Gun violence in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
There were more total traffic fatalities than gun deaths, and if we exclude suicides (since most of them would have used another method if guns weren't available to them) there were more than twice as many traffic fatalities as non-suicide gun deaths... and some of those gun deaths were self-defense or police action.
That is NOT the society I want to live in. Were it to come to that - I would move to Canada. I love this nation and its people and it would pain me greatly to do that. But I feel such a society is a giant step backwards in civilization and I would want no part of it.
If this is indeed the price we pay for second amendment rights, why do people get so damn offended when I propose that the NRA and others build a monument to those who pay that price? Wayne La Piere does not pay that price. Charlton Heston did NOT pay that price. Seventy people in Colorado paid a price and for a dozen of them they paid the ultimate price. But when I and others want that price acknowledged publicly, we are attacked and ripped into and portrayed as gun grabbers.
Even 1k rounds is going to weigh quite a bit. I have no idea why he went with that amount myself, I could see if there was a time of unrest and someone were to "bunker down".I don't get why he bought 6k rounds. Unless he spent time at the range, he was planning on going to other theatres? Someone can only carry, like, what 1000 rounds reasonably? So what's the other 5k for, and were they in the car.
I don't get why he bought 6k rounds. Unless he spent time at the range, he was planning on going to other theatres? Someone can only carry, like, what 1000 rounds reasonably? So what's the other 5k for, and were they in the car.
those rifles are very good for killing someone holding a stinger missile, the pilot of an attack helicopter or tank or more importantly, the politicians who order such weapons be used against patriotic americans
The point is that there is no rational reason for anyone who isn't contemplating a massacre to have a 100-round magazine, and if he had had to change magazines it would have perhaps decreased the death, injury count, or given someone a chance to rush him or fire back when he changed magazines ... even if it just takes a couple seconds.
and why does crazy and evil find its way far more often in the USA than in any other single society?
Yes, a rifle round can take out a tank depending upon the model. Gas containers on tanks tend to not be armored as well, and there are weak spots on many tanks. Now, an M1 Abrams is more of a challenge but even they have weak spots, Cobra helicopters are not well armored compared to other combat models, however their fight capability makes them a challenge, but they have to land eventually and their pilots are NOT armored.A rifle can take out a cobra pilot or a tank? You have never been in combat.
I believe, that since he was armored up, he actually thought he would get away with this and live to do it again.
That is NOT the society I want to live in. Were it to come to that - I would move to Canada. I love this nation and its people and it would pain me greatly to do that. But I feel such a society is a giant step backwards in civilization and I would want no part of it.
If this is indeed the price we pay for second amendment rights, why do people get so damn offended when I propose that the NRA and others build a monument to those who pay that price? Wayne La Piere does not pay that price. Charlton Heston did NOT pay that price. Seventy people in Colorado paid a price and for a dozen of them they paid the ultimate price. But when I and others want that price acknowledged publicly, we are attacked and ripped into and portrayed as gun grabbers.
He stayed too long to think he would get away. He wore armor to help ensure he would live to enjoy his celebrity status. I wonder how many guys urinate in his food before he gets it?
Ah, but that doesn't expand the government.Why don't you just stand up against the assholes that commit gun crimes?
You're the chief of staff for a state legislature lizard. Hows about you suggest he introduce legislation that makes gun crime carry an automatic death penalty?
I think he was planning on having a big shoot out with the cops aka known as "suicide by cop" but chickened out. But that doesn't explain why rigged his apartment with explosives which was probably meant to be a diversion while he went on his rampage...the sick bastard.I don't get why he bought 6k rounds. Unless he spent time at the range, he was planning on going to other theatres? Someone can only carry, like, what 1000 rounds reasonably? So what's the other 5k for, and were they in the car.
A rifle can take out a cobra pilot or a tank? You have never been in combat.
Yes - The intentional murder rate of the USA is three times higher than that of Canada. The USA can learn much from Canada.
Ah, but that doesn't expand the government.
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