• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!
  • Welcome to our archives. No new posts are allowed here.

God's Warning to America

Status
Not open for further replies.

Logicman

DP Veteran
Joined
Aug 21, 2013
Messages
22,298
Reaction score
2,260
Location
United States
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Conservative
“On Wednesday, April 29, 2015, Messianic Jewish Rabbi, Jonathan Cahn, spoke at the fourth annual Washington—A Man of Prayer event held at the U.S. Capitol, delivered on the 226th anniversary of the inauguration of President George Washington. Cahn’s sermon in Washington was the most anointed prophetic utterance he has ever given, and many members of the Congress were in attendance.” – Freedom Outpost

Watch the video / speech at:



Excerpt: "Supreme Court Justices, can you judge the ways of God? Can you, with manmade verdicts, overrule the eternal laws of God? There is another court, and there is another Judge. And before Him, all men and all judges will give account. If a nation's high court should pass judgment on the Almighty, should you then be surprised if the Almighty should pass judgment on that court and that nation?"

A transcript of the speech can be found at: Rabbi Jonathan Cahn Gives America a Final Warning - Freedom Outpost

A powerful and anointed message, and warning, to the politically correct and to America. What a tremendous speaker!

Discussion...
 

Ikari

Moderator
DP Veteran
Joined
Dec 8, 2006
Messages
86,495
Reaction score
56,507
Location
Colorado
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Libertarian - Left
A loon afraid of progress. What's going to happen? Same sex marriage is legalized and then hell and brimstone will befall us? Pffffft.

Pander fear elsewhere.
 

Paschendale

Uncanny
DP Veteran
Joined
Nov 3, 2010
Messages
12,510
Reaction score
12,605
Location
New York City
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Socialist
If god wants to warn us, he can do it himself. Until then, this is just some ***hole who claims to be more enlightened than the rest of us. Neither he, nor anyone else who claims this special knowledge, ever demonstrates anything to prove they're anything more than loud windbags.
 

ReverendHellh0und

I don't respect you.
DP Veteran
Joined
Sep 13, 2007
Messages
79,903
Reaction score
20,981
Location
I love your hate.
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Libertarian
“On Wednesday, April 29, 2015, Messianic Jewish Rabbi, Jonathan Cahn, spoke at the fourth annual Washington—A Man of Prayer event held at the U.S. Capitol, delivered on the 226th anniversary of the inauguration of President George Washington. Cahn’s sermon in Washington was the most anointed prophetic utterance he has ever given, and many members of the Congress were in attendance.” – Freedom Outpost

Watch the video / speech at:



Excerpt: "Supreme Court Justices, can you judge the ways of God? Can you, with manmade verdicts, overrule the eternal laws of God? There is another court, and there is another Judge. And before Him, all men and all judges will give account. If a nation's high court should pass judgment on the Almighty, should you then be surprised if the Almighty should pass judgment on that court and that nation?"

A transcript of the speech can be found at: Rabbi Jonathan Cahn Gives America a Final Warning - Freedom Outpost

A powerful and anointed message, and warning, to the politically correct and to America. What a tremendous speaker!

Discussion...







Who "anointed" said message?


Was it the chosen one, or the other one?
 

Logicman

DP Veteran
Joined
Aug 21, 2013
Messages
22,298
Reaction score
2,260
Location
United States
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Conservative
A loon afraid of progress. What's going to happen? Same sex marriage is legalized and then hell and brimstone will befall us? Pffffft.

Pander fear elsewhere.

Progress is not returning to the practices and ashes of Sodom and Gomorrah.
 

Logicman

DP Veteran
Joined
Aug 21, 2013
Messages
22,298
Reaction score
2,260
Location
United States
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Conservative
If god wants to warn us, he can do it himself.

Except for a few instances like the Burning Bush, Mt. Sinai, etc., God always speaks through his anointed prophets and people. And he just did.
 

Ikari

Moderator
DP Veteran
Joined
Dec 8, 2006
Messages
86,495
Reaction score
56,507
Location
Colorado
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Libertarian - Left
Progress is not returning to the practices and ashes of Sodom and Gomorrah.

HA. Well at least we'd have all the salt we wanted. lol
 

Ikari

Moderator
DP Veteran
Joined
Dec 8, 2006
Messages
86,495
Reaction score
56,507
Location
Colorado
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Libertarian - Left
He always speaks through his anointed prophets and people. And he just did.

Can you prove any of that, or are you just making claims.
 

Ikari

Moderator
DP Veteran
Joined
Dec 8, 2006
Messages
86,495
Reaction score
56,507
Location
Colorado
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Libertarian - Left
Did you bother to listen to it?

Was god in the video emphatically shaking his head "yes" while he talked? No? Then it's not proof that god anointed him.

Far more likely is that you agree with what he said and liked his words, so you are claiming he's some anointed prophet or person. Yeah?
 

Logicman

DP Veteran
Joined
Aug 21, 2013
Messages
22,298
Reaction score
2,260
Location
United States
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Conservative
Here's another similar message:

The Prayer of Minister Joe Wright (in Congress):

Dear Heavenly Father,

We come before You today to ask Your Forgiveness and seek Your direction and guidance. We know Your Word says, “Woe to those who call evil good,” but that’s exactly what we have done. We have lost our Spiritual equilibrium and inverted our values. We confess that.

We have ridiculed the absolute truth of Your Word and called it pluralism; We have worshipped other gods and called it multiculturalism; We have endorsed perversion and called it an alternative lifestyle; We have exploited the poor and called it the lottery; We have neglected the needy and called it self preservation; We have rewarded laziness and called it welfare; We have killed our unborn and called it choice; We have shot abortionists and called it justifiable; We have neglected to discipline our children and called it building self-esteem; We have abused power and called it political savvy; We have coveted our neighbor’s possessions and called it ambition; We have polluted the air with profanity and pornography and called it freedom of expression; We have ridiculed the time-honored values of our forefathers and called it enlightenment.

Search us, O God, and know our hearts today; try us and see if there be some wicked way in us; cleanse us from every sin and set us free. Guide and bless these men and women who have been sent here by the people of this state and who have been ordained by You, to govern this great state of Kansas. Grant them your wisdom to rule and may their decisions direct us to the center of Your Will.

I ask in in the name of your Son, The Living Savior, Jesus Christ

Amen.
 

Logicman

DP Veteran
Joined
Aug 21, 2013
Messages
22,298
Reaction score
2,260
Location
United States
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Conservative
Was god in the video emphatically shaking his head "yes" while he talked? No? Then it's not proof that god anointed him.

Far more likely is that you agree with what he said and liked his words, so you are claiming he's some anointed prophet or person. Yeah?

Well, if you ever get saved and filled with the Holy Spirit you'll have your answer, because then you'll recognize the spiritual message.

Not only that, but how does that message depart from what we find in the Bible and the writings of the prophets? Very little if at all.
 

Ikari

Moderator
DP Veteran
Joined
Dec 8, 2006
Messages
86,495
Reaction score
56,507
Location
Colorado
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Libertarian - Left
Well, if you ever get saved and filled with the Holy Spirit you'll have your answer, because then you'll recognize the spiritual message.

Not only that, but how does that message depart from what we find in the Bible and the writings of the prophets?

None of that demonstrates "anointment'. I get it, you think the words are pretty and you want to give more weight to them, so you claim "anointment" for your personal satisfaction. It's cool, do as you like. But the laws of the Republic shouldn't depend on your delusions or personal interpretations of man made books almost 2000 years old
 

Logicman

DP Veteran
Joined
Aug 21, 2013
Messages
22,298
Reaction score
2,260
Location
United States
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Conservative
None of that demonstrates "anointment'. I get it, you think the words are pretty and you want to give more weight to them, so you claim "anointment" for your personal satisfaction. It's cool, do as you like. But the laws of the Republic shouldn't depend on your delusions or personal interpretations of man made books almost 2000 years old

Nuts.

Let me ask you a question or two:

Can the unspiritual even recognize the spiritual?

Can the person without a godly spirit recognize the spiritual in a speech given by one of God's anointed?
 

Ikari

Moderator
DP Veteran
Joined
Dec 8, 2006
Messages
86,495
Reaction score
56,507
Location
Colorado
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Libertarian - Left
Can the unspiritual even recognize the spiritual?

With proper data, of course.

Can the person without a godly spirit recognize the spiritual in a speech given by one of God's anointed?

Because one claims religion, does it make them truly religious? If a religious individual claims one has been "anointed", must it be so?

You're the one making the claim, you're the one who has to prove it. Occam's razor, is this guy anointed by some all powerful deity or do you simply agree with his message? Which one is more likely?
 

jet57

Banned
DP Veteran
Joined
Feb 19, 2012
Messages
31,057
Reaction score
3,969
Location
not here
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Centrist
Except for a few instances like the Burning Bush, Mt. Sinai, etc., God always speaks through his anointed prophets and people. And he just did.

So, I guess that means that YOU are God.
 

Nilly

stb
DP Veteran
Joined
Jun 12, 2014
Messages
6,873
Reaction score
3,809
Location
DC
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Progressive
“On Wednesday, April 29, 2015, Messianic Jewish Rabbi, Jonathan Cahn, spoke at the fourth annual Washington—A Man of Prayer event held at the U.S. Capitol, delivered on the 226th anniversary of the inauguration of President George Washington. Cahn’s sermon in Washington was the most anointed prophetic utterance he has ever given, and many members of the Congress were in attendance.” – Freedom Outpost

Watch the video / speech at:



Excerpt: "Supreme Court Justices, can you judge the ways of God? Can you, with manmade verdicts, overrule the eternal laws of God? There is another court, and there is another Judge. And before Him, all men and all judges will give account. If a nation's high court should pass judgment on the Almighty, should you then be surprised if the Almighty should pass judgment on that court and that nation?"

A transcript of the speech can be found at: Rabbi Jonathan Cahn Gives America a Final Warning - Freedom Outpost

A powerful and anointed message, and warning, to the politically correct and to America. What a tremendous speaker!

Discussion...


 

Unrepresented

Undisclosed
DP Veteran
Joined
Jul 31, 2014
Messages
4,230
Reaction score
1,605
Location
San Diego
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Undisclosed
Progress is not returning to the practices and ashes of Sodom and Gomorrah.
You'll be able to provide extra biblical proof that:

A) Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed by a god.
B) Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed by your god.
C) Sodom and Gomorrah were engaging in the practices described in the bible.
D) Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed because they were engaging in the practices described in the bible.
 

PIPEWRENCH

DP Veteran
Joined
Oct 19, 2014
Messages
14,409
Reaction score
5,110
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Other
I think he has a right to express his views.

I personally cannot get into killing unborn children. I truly believe one day that future historians will look back at these barbaric practices the same as we do slavery today. I think one day we will see criminal behavior as mental illness and prisons as barbaric solutions to the problem. I think we are a long way from Godly or being able to fully understand the teachings of Jesus. I have faith we will continue to evolve.

I have no problem with government extending all the rights and privlages it extends to traditional marriage to same sex marriage. As a Christian I do not acknowledge the ability of government to perform the sacrament of marriage. Christian marriage is governed by the laws of God and His Church the same as any other sacraments. I believe the government can acknowledge the sacraments but cannot perform them. If the government wishes to marry people I have no problem with it. However as a Christian the government cannot perform the sacrament of marriage for me.

I don't believe we can truly have separation of Church and state. Our civil and religious laws are so entwined that cooperation makes more sense.
 

Logicman

DP Veteran
Joined
Aug 21, 2013
Messages
22,298
Reaction score
2,260
Location
United States
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Conservative
With proper data, of course.

Because one claims religion, does it make them truly religious? If a religious individual claims one has been "anointed", must it be so?

You're the one making the claim, you're the one who has to prove it. Occam's razor, is this guy anointed by some all powerful deity or do you simply agree with his message? Which one is more likely?

Sorry, I don't have to prove anything to you. Go in darkness then.
 

Logicman

DP Veteran
Joined
Aug 21, 2013
Messages
22,298
Reaction score
2,260
Location
United States
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Conservative
You'll be able to provide extra biblical proof that:

A) Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed by a god.
B) Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed by your god.
C) Sodom and Gomorrah were engaging in the practices described in the bible.
D) Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed because they were engaging in the practices described in the bible.

You can either read about it in the Bible or figure that out on your Judgment Day.
 

Paschendale

Uncanny
DP Veteran
Joined
Nov 3, 2010
Messages
12,510
Reaction score
12,605
Location
New York City
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Socialist
Except for a few instances like the Burning Bush, Mt. Sinai, etc.,

Obviously fictional stories that never happened. Heck, these are my people's legends, not yours, and we mostly know that they're not true.

God always speaks through his anointed prophets and people. And he just did.

Okay, I'm his anointed prophet, telling you that you have it all wrong. Demonstrate some method of determining that your happy rabbi is such a person and that I am not. If not, then there is no reason to believe that this windbag has anything of use to say.
 

Unrepresented

Undisclosed
DP Veteran
Joined
Jul 31, 2014
Messages
4,230
Reaction score
1,605
Location
San Diego
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Undisclosed
You can either read about it in the Bible or figure that out on your Judgment Day.
I'm familiar with the story. I'm as convinced that those events happened as described as those in your OP will happen as described.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top Bottom