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God doesn't kill people

Elora said:
Because God does promise, that in the future, those who love Him will live in peace and unending happiness on a paradise earth...it is your choice to be there to enjoy that promise or not...
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What about people like me, atheists? People who worship some other God? All the people who don't love your God as you do. Don't they foil God's plan for an earthly paradise?
 
Arlette said:
What about people like me, atheists? People who worship some other God? All the people who don't love your God as you do. Don't they foil God's plan for an earthly paradise?
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And god didn't see this coming.
 
Nomad4Ever said:
I guess my question is, if God doesn't effect anything (positively or negatively) because it would interfere with free will...then why does it matter he exists at all? Like if God exists but has zero effect on my life because that would effect my free will why should I care?

I might as well pray to Joe Biden or DeSantis or someone else who actually effects my life in a real way.
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Bravo!
 
grip said:
God didn't kill those people, the rain did.
God didn't kill Jesus, the Romans did.

If you want to say God doesn't save people from pain and death, even that will eventually become untrue.
As I said, He allows for the system of cause and effect.
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And you've been god's right hand man for how long now? I love the certainty in your posts. Have you thought about becoming a bible scholar?
 
grip said:
People keep saying 'why does God make little babies die in a fire or from cancer?' He tried to make it perfect in the Garden of Eden but mankind got bored, unappreciative, and chose a different path. And without free will and its ramifications, there can be no independent existence. So, the demise of babies or any other atrocities by man or nature is not directly from the creator. How can you have a system of cause and effect if you never allow for the negative effects? This is why He didn't even save Himself from being tortured to death, to allow for free will and autonomy.
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God doesn't kill babies in fires, kill people with starvation and wars, suffer with cancer or any of those things. We've earned the right to have them along with our free will.

If you god doesn't do any of those things but allows them to happen, why do you worship such an entity? Isn't your god's powers more potent than man's free will?
 
bongsaway said:
God doesn't kill babies in fires, kill people with starvation and wars, suffer with cancer or any of those things. We've earned the right to have them along with our free will.

If you god doesn't do any of those things but allows them to happen, why do you worship such an entity? Isn't your god's powers more potent than man's free will?
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God gets off on human suffering. When he sees it he goes all Mr. Burns and rubs his supernatural hands together saying, "Excellent!"
 
Arlette said:
What about people like me, atheists? People who worship some other God? All the people who don't love your God as you do. Don't they foil God's plan for an earthly paradise?
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They won't be there...if they were, things would be no different than they are now on the earth...
 
Mongidig said:
Why didn't he just make to where everyone made good decisions?
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Because *good* without contrast is indistinguishable, and we don't suffer indefinitely. Without some negativity, everything becomes too one-dimensional. Evil could've been much worse.
 
NWO_Spook said:
So, he doesn't interact with the physical universe in order to allow cause and effect to take its natural course, and he is invisible. How then is this god indistinguishable from a god that doesn't exist?
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God ^is^ everything, if He didn't exist, then nothing else would. He interacts with the physical universe by being the system. Its His will that the system operates independently of His direct will.
 
bongsaway said:
And you've been god's right hand man for how long now? I love the certainty in your posts. Have you thought about becoming a bible scholar?
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What's your point?
bongsaway said:
God doesn't kill babies in fires, kill people with starvation and wars, suffer with cancer or any of those things. We've earned the right to have them along with our free will.

If you god doesn't do any of those things but allows them to happen, why do you worship such an entity? Isn't your god's powers more potent than man's free will?
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Would you prefer there be no life at all?
 
grip said:
God ^is^ everything, if He didn't exist, then nothing else would. He interacts with the physical universe by being the system. Its His will that the system operates independently of His direct will.
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That's nice. Prove it!
 
grip said:
Because *good* without contrast is indistinguishable,
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Why didn’t he just create good and leave out the contrast? Give us the ability to recognize it’s all good all the time. It seems to me the contrast has mostly been created by humans in what is mostly a neutral universe.
 
Mongidig said:
Give us the ability to recognize it’s all good all the time.
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Is that not what Heaven is supposed to be? It seems god could have saved us all a lot of trouble if he just went with that to begin with.
Mongidig said:
It seems to me the contrast has mostly been created by humans in what is mostly a neutral universe.
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We're such a silly species, are we not? lol
 
grip said:
People keep saying 'why does God make little babies die in a fire or from cancer?' He tried to make it perfect in the Garden of Eden but mankind got bored, unappreciative, and chose a different path. And without free will and its ramifications, there can be no independent existence. So, the demise of babies or any other atrocities by man or nature is not directly from the creator. How can you have a system of cause and effect if you never allow for the negative effects? This is why He didn't even save Himself from being tortured to death, to allow for free will and autonomy.
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I wasn't aware you were a believer.
 
GOD doesn't kill people?

So I guess all those folks who didn't make it onto the Ark were killed when some durn fool went on vacation and left the tap running?
 
Elora said:
Would you rather be in hellfire forever?
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There are always going to be people who don't believe, who prevent God's promise to become a reality.
 
Arlette said:
There are always going to be people who don't believe, who prevent God's promise to become a reality.
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Nope...getting close, don't cha think?

“When the wicked sprout like weeds and all the wrongdoers flourish, it is that they may be annihilated forever.” Psalm 92:7
 
Elora said:
Nope...getting close, don't cha think?

“When the wicked sprout like weeds and all the wrongdoers flourish, it is that they may be annihilated forever.” Psalm 92:7
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No. There's not going to be Armageddon or any other nonsense promised in the Bible
 
What a terrible thread, of course God kills people. Right there in the Old Testament, several times over to the point of genocidal.

Everything since, just more lunacy.
 
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