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"God Created Man in His Own Image."

Logician Man said:
The above clearly implies God's "plan" failed. Why was God's "plan" flawed?
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God's plan was not flawed. Adam and Eve did love each other. They did have hope and faith in each other. They just did not want to obey God when He told them not to eat fruit from a certain tree.
 
Patriotic Voter said:
God's plan was not flawed. Adam and Eve did love each other. They did have hope and faith in each other. They just did not want to obey God when He told them not to eat fruit from a certain tree.
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Of course God's plan was flawed. Otherwise, His 'plan" would have worked out exactly as you described God intended his plan to unfold in your post up thread.
 
Patriotic Voter said:
God set humans apart from all other animal species to love, serve, and be like Him in every way possible.
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No. Not exactly. That's why he pitched such a fit when they ate from the forbidden tree. They wanted to be like him. He didn't like that. At all
 
NolanVoyd said:
They got it ass backwards. Man obviously created God in our image not the other way around.

That is why this so called "God" is as petty, jealous and immoral as the worst among us.
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And the Muslim god. He and his 72 virgins just screams man-made
 
Logician Man said:
Of course God's plan was flawed. Otherwise, His 'plan" would have worked out exactly as you described God intended his plan to unfold in your post up thread.
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God knows free will is part of sharing love. If you were unable to do anything you wanted to do - even something as simple as walking in the house - that would not be love.
 
Patriotic Voter said:
God knows free will is part of sharing love. If you were unable to do anything you wanted to do - even something as simple as walking in the house - that would not be love.
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Did God know he was going to kill all of those first born little babies in Egypt when he first created the universe?
 
Logician Man said:
Did God know he was going to kill all of those first borns in Egypt when he first created the universe?
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God knew if anyone disobeyed Him, he was going to severely punish them. But those who did obey God were saved by the blood of a perfect first-born male lamb.
 
Patriotic Voter said:
God knew if anyone disobeyed Him, he was going to severely punish them. But those who did obey God were saved by the blood of a perfect first-born male lamb.
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Is that a YES or NO to the question posed in post# 32?
 
Patriotic Voter said:
I never said or implied that.
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You said in 'your' post# 38 "NO" was your answer to the question posed in post# 32. Logic dictates that since God didn't know ( per your claim ) that he would kill Egyptian first borns when He first created the universe----by definition, the Biblical God is 'NOT' Omniscient.
 
Patriotic Voter said:
God knew if anyone disobeyed Him, he was going to severely punish them. But those who did obey God were saved by the blood of a perfect first-born male lamb.
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Just one lamb, why a male, and who killed it? And perfect in what way?
 
Logician Man said:
You said in 'your' post# 38 "NO" was your answer to the question posed in post# 32. Logic dictates that since God didn't know ( per your claim ) that he would kill Egyptian first borns when He first created the universe----by definition, the Biblical God is 'NOT' Omniscient.
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Explain that. God did make an appearance in the form of a dust cloud when He spoke to Moses. That story is in the same book as the Passover.
 
Patriotic Voter said:
Explain that.
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I asked you a YES or NO question in post# 32. In your post# 37, your answer is "NO" to that question. Therefore, since you claim God didn't know he was going to kill all of those first born babies, by definition, the Biblical God is "NOT" Omniscient, as He did not know 'everything.' ( Omniscient = 'ALL' knowing )
 
Patriotic Voter said:
God knew if anyone disobeyed Him, he was going to severely punish them. But those who did obey God were saved by the blood of a perfect first-born male lamb.
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Here is where the hypocrisy of belief continually shows itself. Belief requires abject obedience to a deity who will punish those who err or stray in any way from the capricious whims of said omniscient deity and yet, and yet, believers claim there is free will. There is choice -- what to wear, what to eat, where to go, paint color for a house, which religious cult to join, etc., but believers' destinies are decreed by their deities.

And the whole lamb of god sacrifice, what was the need? People already knew what they had to do to stay in god's good graces but said god created a situation where perfection was sacrificed for naught. Adam and Eve created perfect, failed. Jesus, created perfect, had no free will being sent by god with no purpose other than as a sacrifice.
 
Another shit fest trying to pass for discussion. It gets tiring.

We are the image of God in the same fundamental way that a shadow is an image of ourselves. God casts his light (Truth) on the world and we stand between that light and everything else around us. Before the Fall we merely cast the shadow as it was. After the Fall we began to see the shadow as our own, not that of God. The path to redemption involves the struggle to remove ourselves from the shadow we have created and, once again, restore the image God first created.
 
Patriotic Voter said:
God set humans apart from all other animal species to love, serve, and be like Him in every way possible.
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Ah! that accounts for all the murders, hate and wars this world has suffered through. Your god is a bastard who goes around killing at his pleasure, committing genocide without a concern.
 
Lutherf said:
Another shit fest trying to pass for discussion. It gets tiring.

We are the image of God in the same fundamental way that a shadow is an image of ourselves. God casts his light (Truth) on the world and we stand between that light and everything else around us. Before the Fall we merely cast the shadow as it was. After the Fall we began to see the shadow as our own, not that of God. The path to redemption involves the struggle to remove ourselves from the shadow we have created and, once again, restore the image God first created.
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Good analogy. I have always found god to be a bit shady.
 
Lutherf said:
Another shit fest trying to pass for discussion. It gets tiring.

We are the image of God in the same fundamental way that a shadow is an image of ourselves. God casts his light (Truth) on the world and we stand between that light and everything else around us. Before the Fall we merely cast the shadow as it was. After the Fall we began to see the shadow as our own, not that of God. The path to redemption involves the struggle to remove ourselves from the shadow we have created and, once again, restore the image God first created.
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God's light is truth???????

Lol
 
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