Sherman123
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Unless Russia or Germany decided to invade them, they'd be ok. Germany is in a great state right now, Russia...meh, not so sure. But either way I'd take my chances if the U.S. got to a point where it was intolerable to stay and no change could be brought about by the people due to the government being too powerful.
Look at Rosa Parks.
The people of those countries are (in general) less powerful than the people of the US. And the culture is far more monotonic. But, measured in the way you are using, their stats show up great. So what is it that you want more precisely stated?I have honestly never visited any of those countries. I have friends who live in Switzerland. Other than that, I'm basing my preferences on statistics and satisfaction rates among their populations.
And let me say this; I would like to stay here, but I feel I am powerless and the government is too powerful. There are many issues I have trouble accepting and I feel I cannot change them.
Literacy: Norway comes in tied at the front at approximately 99.9-100%. The United States lags in the 26th spot at... 99%+.
Also what do we have that most of these countries don't? Immigrants. Millions and millions of them. Sure Sweden and Norway take in their share of asylum seekers, and they have done an abysmal job of integrating them. You want to see racism against minorities? Go to Malmo, go to the outskirts of Oslo. We aren't stagnating, we have new human capital, and we also happily accept the statistical skewing that results from that.
Palm trees may be seen along the south coasts of Ireland and England
There are four separate species of palm tree in Ireland, one of them is
Palm Trees in Ireland? | Surprising Science
Be the change.
I like the enthusiasm, but how do you propose I change the economic meltdown we are in? How do you supposed I change the election process, the policy making process, end the war, get us out of debt, create hundreds of thousands of jobs, improve the education system, etc? Do you suppose I lobby? Call my congressman? I have done both, to no avail, as many others have.
It isn't all that unlikely. The Scandinavian countries have been marked by an acute fear that their claims to arctic territory, and their coastal peripheries will be eroded by aggressive Russian activities. Norway in particular has begun to realize the impossibility of defending its lucrative arctic claims against any other power and is relying upon Canadian and American diplomatic and military support to prevent a defacto Russian hegemony over their claimed territory. Moreover Finland has maintained an extreme high readiness military due to its fears over it's Russian neighbors and has played a delicate balancing act maintaining ties to NATO and the US over its fears of Russian retaliation in a variety of possible forms.
They wouldn't collapse without the US military umbrella, but they would see a radical shift in prescriptions for governance and foreign policy.
Where in our constitution does it avocate rebellion if the federal government becomes too "powerful" ?Ya, it is tough. I just don't want to be here if **** really hits the fan... I've read a lot about people proposing to abolish the current government, because it has become too powerful, as the constitution says to do. People are talking about "Civil War II" and I really don't want my family here if it comes to that.
You cant get out of this dump anyway. Minimun amount to buy your way out is about $500k. And for the idiots with a USA only mind set. Other counties DONT ALLOW FOREIGNERS to WORK AT ALL. Other countries dont allow ANYONE in at all. Except retireees and others with MONEY. Only the US Citizen gets screwed by its own Gov this way.
Being selective is what makes them great.
Maybe we should be more "picky" about immigration.....or maybe not...I have a very hard time believing this, but I am willing to do so if shown the information. Could you cite a credible source? I am in disbelief because of the millions of illegal immigrants from Mexico who live and work(illegally in most cases) who do not know how to speak english, let alone read it. Also, the number of kids who drop out and are illiterate, people who are severely impoverished and do not finish school, etc. I work in a setting where the patients have extremely low literacy. I'm unsure of how the 99% figure was achieved.
Legal immigration is one thing, however, illegal immigration, which is rampant in the U.S., is another. As liberalavenger noted, you can't just walk into the aforementioned countries. They are selective. The U.S. is a country which deserves to be picky about immigrants, why are we not? Not on the basis of race of course.
I would rather continue living here, but they aren't making it an easy choice.
The people of those countries are (in general) less powerful than the people of the US. And the culture is far more monotonic. But, measured in the way you are using, their stats show up great. So what is it that you want more precisely stated?
None of those things happened overnight. The shortest was the 2008 Crash and it took three years to take full effect. Afghanistan has been just over a decade. Everything else has taken decades to get to where they are now - and it's going to take decades to get them back where they belong. You have to take it one step at a time and pass on your views of change to the following generations with hopes they'll have better lives.I like the enthusiasm, but how do you propose I change the economic meltdown we are in? How do you supposed I change the election process, the policy making process, end the war, get us out of debt, create hundreds of thousands of jobs, improve the education system, etc? Do you suppose I lobby? Call my congressman? I have done both, to no avail, as many others have.
So then you support the European Union? Both Finland and Sweden benefit from being a EU member. Switzerland though refuses to become a member of the EU but then they dont really need to since they are a very very small state that is landlocked by countries in the EU, which means that it is highly likely that their neighbors would save their little country.
At anyrate the fact that those countries only actual let rich people move there means that it doesnt matter that they exist for you since you can never move there.
Maybe we should be more "picky" about immigration.....or maybe not...
These nations with strict immigraton laws could also be, in this area anyway, police states...
Or they do NOT have the allure of our nation..
As to illiteracy...check out Craigs List.
It more like 90% at best..
Maybe no one asks the "illegals "??
None of those things happened overnight. The shortest was the 2008 Crash and it took three years to take full effect. Afghanistan has been just over a decade. Everything else has taken decades to get to where they are now - and it's going to take decades to get them back where they belong. You have to take it one step at a time and pass on your views of change to the following generations with hopes they'll have better lives.
Indeed. I have seen the palm trees in both countries many times. I thought about both countries when I wrote the post. I'd live in Ireland tomorrow. Cork or there abouts for me, but my wife loves dirty old Dublin. I'd settle for either or anywhere in Eire save for Limerick, which ironically is where my family is from.
Many things are changing in the United States, and many things have remained the same (war, for example). Gun policies are changing, health care is changing drastically, economy is in the dumps, etc etc. I am not deeming any of these issues negative or positive because to each, his own. I am simply curious to see how many Americans are either satisfied and want to continue living here, or are unsettled and wish to leave.
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