Germany, Allemagne, Tyskland, Deutschland

[Rumpel]

In this section I have read again and again that everybody MUST call Belarus by the name Belarus, because the people there say so!

Now I wonder how many of those super-clever posters also maintain that Germany MUST be called Deutschland, because the people there say so. :mrgreen:

 

[Grand Mal]

In this section I have read again and again that everybody MUST call Belarus by the name Belarus, because the people there say so!

Now I wonder how many of those super-clever posters also maintain that Germany MUST be called Deutschland, because the people there say so. :mrgreen:

This must be important to you.
I've never heard Belarus called anything else. What name would you use?
Just off the top of my head, I'd guess the "Rus" in Belarus is the same "Rus" as in Russia.

 

[Rumpel]

This must be important to you.

It is just that I find linguistic topics intriguing.

It is for linguistic reasons that I created this poll.

 

[Chomsky]

In this section I have read again and again that everybody MUST call Belarus by the name Belarus, because the people there say so!

Now I wonder how many of those super-clever posters also maintain that Germany MUST be called Deutschland, because the people there say so. :mrgreen:

I think we should refer to a given country by its chosen name, just as we do for the people we meet.

 

[Rumpel]

I've never heard Belarus called anything else. What name would you use?

When I am speaking in German, I would always say: Weißrussland.
When I am speaking in English, I am not quite sure any more ....
It would really depend on what the majority of the English say.
What the people in Belarus themselves say does not matter. That was and is my point.

 

[Rumpel]

I think we should refer to a given country by its chosen name, just as we do for the people we meet.

No - we shouldn't.
Not when we are speaking in our own languages.

Countries are not persons. There is a difference.

A person called "Peter" or "Paul" stays Peter or Paul worldwide.

A country like Germany or Italy or Spain etc etc etc may have different names in different countries.

Q. E. D.

 

[Grand Mal]

When I am speaking in German, I would always say: Weißrussland.
When I am speaking in English, I am not quite sure any more ....
It would really depend on what the majority of the English say.
What the people in Belarus themselves say does not matter. That was and is my point.

In English, it's Belarus. Has always been, far as I know.
The Rus, if I remember right, were Swedish Vikings and that probably figures into the name, and I've never heard any other name for the country.
To be honest, I probably have only heard the name spoken a half-dozen times in my life.

 

[Rumpel]

I think we should refer to a given country by its chosen name, just as we do for the people we meet.

Would you really call Germany "Deutschland"?
Honestly, now ...

 

[Rumpel]

To be honest, I probably have only heard the name spoken a half-dozen times in my life.

Same with me - some time ago.
But now this country is on the news again and again and again.

 

[Chomsky]

Would you really call Germany "Deutschland"?
Honestly, now ...

Why wouldn't I?

 

[Chomsky]

No - we shouldn't.
Not when we are speaking in our own languages.

Countries are not persons. There is a difference.

A person called "Peter" or "Paul" stays Peter or Paul worldwide.

A country like Germany or Italy or Spain etc etc etc may have different names in different countries.

Q. E. D.

I don't see the point. They've got a name, why change it?

 

[Peter King]

To me as a Dutch person it is "Duitsland", second would be Deutschland (familiar as I am with the German language), then it is Germany (US/English) and last but not least "Allemagme" (French and the language of the Eurovision song contest).

 

[Rumpel]

Why wouldn't I?

Exactly!
You wouldn't and you shouldn't.

But:

I think we should refer to a given country by its chosen name, just as we do for the people we meet.

Do you not contradict yourself here?

 

[Rumpel]

Another question:

Do you say Nuremberg and Cologne and Vienna?
Or do you say Nürnberg and Köln and Wien?

 

[Rumpel]

Allemagne
2
66.67%

Allemagne has got 2 votes from 3 voters so far.

 

[Chomsky]

Exactly!
You wouldn't and you shouldn't.

But:



Do you not contradict yourself here?

You totally lost me here, and this seems to be getting too seeped in logical/technical/hypothetical points.

Do you have an overarching point you're getting at, here?

 

[Rumpel]

To me as a Dutch person it is "Duitsland", second would be Deutschland (familiar as I am with the German language), then it is Germany (US/English) and last but not least "Allemagme" (French and the language of the Eurovision song contest).

When I am speaking in English, I say Germany.
When I am speaking in French, I say Allemagne.
When I am speaking in Standard German, I say Germany.
And when I am speaking in my own language, I say "Ditschlond".

 

[Rumpel]

You totally lost me here, and this seems to be getting too seeped in logical/technical points.

Sorry.

 

[Rumpel]

Do you have a point you're getting at, here?

Yes, I have.

 

[Chomsky]

Yes, I have.

:doh

Do you care to share it?

(Perhaps we're just having a communication issue?)

 

[Fledermaus]

Allemagne has got 2 votes from 3 voters so far.

Belarus prefers Belarus.

How many polls are you going to make about this?

 

[Fledermaus]

:doh

Do you care to share it?

(Perhaps we're just having a communication issue?)

He is butt hurt because his Belarus poll failed.

 

[Chomsky]

He is butt hurt because his Belarus poll failed.

No idea. I was thinking perhaps communication issues. Happens sometimes, especially on international boards.

 

[Peter King]

When I am speaking in English, I say Germany.
When I am speaking in French, I say Allemagne.
When I am speaking in Standard German, I say Germany.
And when I am speaking in my own language, I say "Ditschlond".

Why would you says Germany in Standard German? Germany is not a word, it is "Deutschland", it even says so in their country name and the anthem.

 

[Fledermaus]

No idea. I was thinking perhaps communication issues. Happens sometimes, especially on international boards.

In another poll he asked "Belarus or White Russia? - Which term do you use?"

Then he berated people who disagreed with him.

He tends to do that a lot.