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German Village of 102 Braces for 750 Asylum Seekers [W:186]

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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/01/w...&gwh=418291B76D72B9A69BA2E55697C40220&gwt=pay

This bucolic, one-street settlement of handsome redbrick farmhouses may for the moment have many more cows than people, but next week it will become one of the fastest growing places in Europe. Not that anyone in Sumte is very excited about it. In early October, the district government informed Sumte’s mayor, Christian Fabel, by email that his village of 102 people just over the border in what was once Communist East Germany would take in 1,000 asylum seekers. His wife, the mayor said, assured him it must be a hoax. “It certainly can’t be true” that such a small, isolated place would be asked to accommodate nearly 10 times as many migrants as it had residents, she told him. “She thought it was a joke,” he said. But it was not. Sumte has become a showcase of the extreme pressures bearing down on Germany as it scrambles to find shelter for what, by the end of the year, could be well over a million people seeking refuge from poverty or wars in Africa, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere.

In a small concession to the villagers, Alexander Götz, a regional official from Lower Saxony, told them this week that the initial number of refugees, who start arriving on Monday and will be housed in empty office buildings, would be kept to 500, and limited to 750 in all. Nevertheless, the influx is testing the limits of tolerance and hospitality in Sumte, and across Germany. It is also straining German politics broadly, creating deep divisions in the conservative camp of Chancellor Angela Merkel and energizing a constellation of extremist groups that feel their time has come. One of the few people, in fact, who seem enthusiastic about the plan for Sumte is Holger Niemann, 32, an admirer of Hitler and the lone neo-Nazi on the elected district council. He rejoices at the opportunities the migrant crisis has offered. “It is bad for the people, but politically it is good for me,” Mr. Niemann said of the plan, which would leave the German villagers outnumbered by migrants by more than seven to one.
 
My concern is for those fleeing hell and not those worried about elbow space in heaven.
 
If a nation is caring (or foolish) enough to have an open door policy regarding refugees, then the citizens of that nation who allowed this have to suck it up and deal. :coffeepap
 
This is why you don't elect globalists to office.They do not give two ****s about your country and will sell it out the first chance they get.
 
If a nation is caring (or foolish) enough to have an open door policy regarding refugees, then the citizens of that nation who allowed this have to suck it up and deal. :coffeepap
......and that's precisely what the dwellers in Sumte, in their majority, are prepared to do.
 
This is why you don't elect globalists to office.They do not give two ****s about your country and will sell it out the first chance they get.
That may or may not apply to your locality, on this particular one and the whole country included, you are obviously clueless.
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/01/w...&gwh=418291B76D72B9A69BA2E55697C40220&gwt=pay

This bucolic, one-street settlement of handsome redbrick farmhouses may for the moment have many more cows than people, but next week it will become one of the fastest growing places in Europe. Not that anyone in Sumte is very excited about it. In early October, the district government informed Sumte’s mayor, Christian Fabel, by email that his village of 102 people just over the border in what was once Communist East Germany would take in 1,000 asylum seekers. His wife, the mayor said, assured him it must be a hoax. “It certainly can’t be true” that such a small, isolated place would be asked to accommodate nearly 10 times as many migrants as it had residents, she told him. “She thought it was a joke,” he said. But it was not. Sumte has become a showcase of the extreme pressures bearing down on Germany as it scrambles to find shelter for what, by the end of the year, could be well over a million people seeking refuge from poverty or wars in Africa, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere.

In a small concession to the villagers, Alexander Götz, a regional official from Lower Saxony, told them this week that the initial number of refugees, who start arriving on Monday and will be housed in empty office buildings, would be kept to 500, and limited to 750 in all. Nevertheless, the influx is testing the limits of tolerance and hospitality in Sumte, and across Germany. It is also straining German politics broadly, creating deep divisions in the conservative camp of Chancellor Angela Merkel and energizing a constellation of extremist groups that feel their time has come. One of the few people, in fact, who seem enthusiastic about the plan for Sumte is Holger Niemann, 32, an admirer of Hitler and the lone neo-Nazi on the elected district council. He rejoices at the opportunities the migrant crisis has offered. “It is bad for the people, but politically it is good for me,” Mr. Niemann said of the plan, which would leave the German villagers outnumbered by migrants by more than seven to one.

In a village of 102 you lose maybe 50 voters. In a city it could cost you a few thousands.
 
Seems like this is just a taste of the political reality that the developed nations will be facing this century. With the IMF and World Bank gutting most of the third world, causing their populations to concentrate in urban centers, it's only going to lead to mass immigration so long as people can't access their own lands anymore. I'm thinking about that movie Children of Men... it's a fairly accurate prediction, at this rate. The wealthy nations have usurped so much from the world and have made trade barriers porous, while still blocking human travel. The natural outcome is that people are going to eventually flee en mass to the only places left on earth where there is a hope for survival.

These are the fruits of our inequitable economic system.
 
....and now, all the people whose families have been there for generations will end up being harassed, persecuted and driven out by those who will turn the town into yet another Arab hell hole. What a shame.
 
My concern is for those fleeing hell and not those worried about elbow space in heaven.

East Germany is Heaven?

Have you considered informing some of these poor townspeople who had to life under communism for as long as they did?
 
Something's gotta give soon. And when it does, hit the deck...because the **** (or bullets, fists and knives) will be flying in all directions.
 
That may or may not apply to your locality, on this particular one and the whole country included, you are obviously clueless.
So they don't have elections in Germany?
 
East Germany is Heaven?

Have you considered informing some of these poor townspeople who had to life under communism for as long as they did?
Sumte is not in East Germany and never was.
 
This really isn't very surprising. I mean, the German government is going to have to find all kinds of places where they can hopefully house this influx of refugees. It sounds like a bunch of fear mongering to me.
 
You know, we gave them a democracy in the Middle East along with the tools to fight for themselves. I wonder if Germany should just tell them "No....b.s., you're not doing this to us. Go back and fight for yourselves and make a better life for your people".
 
You know, we gave them a democracy in the Middle East along with the tools to fight for themselves. I wonder if Germany should just tell them "No....b.s., you're not doing this to us. Go back and fight for yourselves and make a better life for your people".

I don't understand. Who would they fight for? How could anyone round up refugees and force them to fight?
 
I don't understand. Who would they fight for? How could anyone round up refugees and force them to fight?

If you didn't let them into your country, they wouldn't just seize to exist. They would realize that they would have to fight to make the best of their own country. We've spent precious lives and billions of dollars in Iraq to make it a democracy and we armed and trained their people and they simply won't fight for themselves. Now some of them are going to other countries to become burdens on them. Does that seem fair to the people of Sumte?
 
East Germany is Heaven? Have you considered informing some of these poor townspeople who had to life under communism for as long as they did?

There hasn't been an East Germany for what, 26 years??? There are many citizens who never knew communist rule (23% of Germany are 24 or younger). I'd opine being in the former East Germany now is heaven compared to Syria now.

Now this isn't a small rural town- this is an ABANDONED town, once the Wall fell many East Germans fled their crap holes for the West (many West Germans were HIGHLY resentful of these 'lazy bums' coming to suck up all the West's resources- funny to see the East Germans seeing another group the same way their fellow Germans saw them.)

If we read the article carefully we see the immigrants are being housed in ABANDONED office buildings- not exactly the rural 'more cows than people' picture some would have us believe.

To be fair many townspeople will appreciate the influx of money the Gubmint will pour in to upgrade the buildings, feed and care for the immigrants.

Remember the immigrant children in this country? Hundreds were housed on Ft. Sill in abandoned Basic training barracks. Now the Nation's anti-immigrant ranters were in full voice and pitied us for having them 'in our midst'. We never saw them, the local businesses LOVED having the immigrant children there- from the hotels where the counselors and workers lived to local stores where the workers shopped and of course the local services that supported the children while there.

I somehow doubt the influx of these immigrants into a semi ghost town in the Former East Germany will be seen by most other Germans as a heavy burden. I'd opine the local business's, empty office building owners, and the sundry other people who will gain employment will see it as a temporary win- not unlike the local businesses and workers in Lawton America did with the immigrant children housed on Ft. Sill for a few months... :peace
 
If you didn't let them into your country, they wouldn't just seize to exist. They would realize that they would have to fight to make the best of their own country. We've spent precious lives and billions of dollars in Iraq to make it a democracy and we armed and trained their people and they simply won't fight for themselves. Now some of them are going to other countries to become burdens on them. Does that seem fair to the people of Sumte?

Well, none of this seems fair, and I mean that all the way back to the homes these refugees had to flee from.

I just don't understand the legality involved in trying to force refugees to fight. How would a country pull together the resources to find the military age and fit men and women, train them, arm them, equip them, move them, care for them, feed them, and mobilize them in combat? Who leads them? Who are they fighting against and with? How do you enforce regulations and standards with a bunch of war refugees being forced into a military structure and onto a battlefield? I am not trying to drown out your suggestion with questions, but all these things just started flooding my mind when I saw your post.

It doesn't make a lot of sense to me. And that is besides the point of Germany's duty to take in war refugees. Sorry if this was too much, or scattered.
 
There hasn't been an East Germany for what, 26 years??? There are many citizens who never knew communist rule (23% of Germany are 24 or younger). I'd opine being in the former East Germany now is heaven compared to Syria now.

Now this isn't a small rural town- this is an ABANDONED town, once the Wall fell many East Germans fled their crap holes for the West (many West Germans were HIGHLY resentful of these 'lazy bums' coming to suck up all the West's resources- funny to see the East Germans seeing another group the same way their fellow Germans saw them.)

If we read the article carefully we see the immigrants are being housed in ABANDONED office buildings- not exactly the rural 'more cows than people' picture some would have us believe.

To be fair many townspeople will appreciate the influx of money the Gubmint will pour in to upgrade the buildings, feed and care for the immigrants.

Remember the immigrant children in this country? Hundreds were housed on Ft. Sill in abandoned Basic training barracks. Now the Nation's anti-immigrant ranters were in full voice and pitied us for having them 'in our midst'. We never saw them, the local businesses LOVED having the immigrant children there- from the hotels where the counselors and workers lived to local stores where the workers shopped and of course the local services that supported the children while there.

I somehow doubt the influx of these immigrants into a semi ghost town in the Former East Germany will be seen by most other Germans as a heavy burden. I'd opine the local business's, empty office building owners, and the sundry other people who will gain employment will see it as a temporary win- not unlike the local businesses and workers in Lawton America did with the immigrant children housed on Ft. Sill for a few months... :peace

Interesting, your description of Sumte is the utter opposite of the first sentence of the OP.
 
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