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German Unity Day [W:192]

Rostocker said:
Wrong, with Same argumentation one can say Chernobyl enabled our Revolution, because the USSR got massivly destabilized from this and lost control.

We can also say the Taliban enabled our revolution.

With all due respect, but dont push yourself in other nations Business. Its one of the reasons USA has such bad renomee
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We defeated the Soviets; you are citing symptoms, not causes.
 
Rostocker said:
You call a state backward forest state. I ask again, do you call Syria a backward desert state? Yes or No?
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I call my own region the same. Look at my name here. I love it but I would never claim Sauerland people stand for whole Germany.

you have literally no clue of islam - you only repeat what your afd headquaters tell you
 
Rexedgar said:
There are wars and there are battles, our adversaries play a much longer game than we are accustomed to......
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Not really. The fire we started in 1776 jumped to France in 1789 in large part because the French monarchy bankrupted itself to help us. From France the fire spread everywhere and is still not out.
 
Rostocker said:
You cant make a German a Russian.

Look at your country. You even fail to make mexicans in USA speak english.
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Over the course of generations, everyone assimilates eventually. And the Russians employed much more persuasive approaches against their subjects than Western nations when they set their minds to it.
 
Jean-s said:
It is a foolish remark of yours to suggest that countries subject to Moscow would forfeit the use of their own languages in favor of Russian. There was no sign of this for the decades after WWII.
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Partly true. I should not have said "only" language, as that is clearly incorrect. Germans would have continued speaking their language in some settings, while also having to speak Russian in many settings as the preferred language. See, e.g.:

" During the Soviet times, the attitude to Ukrainian language and culture went through periods of promotion (policy of "korenization", c.  1923 to c.  1933), suppression (during the subsequent period of Stalinism), and renewed Ukrainization (notably in the epoch of Khrushchev, c.  1953 to 1964). Ukrainian cultural organizations, such as theatres or the Writers' Union, were funded by the central administration.[which?] While officially there was no state language in the Soviet Union until 1990, Russian in practice had an implicitly privileged position as the only language widely spoken across the country. In 1990 Russian became legally the official all-Union language of the Soviet Union, with constituent republics having rights to declare their own official languages.[14][15] The Ukrainian language, despite official encouragement and government funding, like other regional languages, was often frowned upon or quietly discouraged, which led to a gradual decline in its usage. " (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russi...ssion_and_fostering_of_the_Ukrainian_language)

I recall very well speaking with a Ukranian immigrant to the US who refused to utter a word in Russian, though she spoke it fluently, because she had been forced to learn it while living under the thumb of the empire.
 
german hick said:
I call my own region the same. Look at my name here. I love it but I would never claim Sauerland people stand for whole Germany.

you have literally no clue of islam - you only repeat what your afd headquaters tell you
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No i say what my friends from Iran tell me. Its a disgusting hate cult.
 
skeptic llc said:
Over the course of generations, everyone assimilates eventually. And the Russians employed much more persuasive approaches against their subjects than Western nations when they set their minds to it.
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Russia never had an colonial Empire and even within own borders does.not change cultures.
 
skeptic llc said:
Partly true. I should not have said "only" language, as that is clearly incorrect. Germans would have continued speaking their language in some settings, while also having to speak Russian in many settings as the preferred language. See, e.g.:

" During the Soviet times, the attitude to Ukrainian language and culture went through periods of promotion (policy of "korenization", c.  1923 to c.  1933), suppression (during the subsequent period of Stalinism), and renewed Ukrainization (notably in the epoch of Khrushchev, c.  1953 to 1964). Ukrainian cultural organizations, such as theatres or the Writers' Union, were funded by the central administration.[which?] While officially there was no state language in the Soviet Union until 1990, Russian in practice had an implicitly privileged position as the only language widely spoken across the country. In 1990 Russian became legally the official all-Union language of the Soviet Union, with constituent republics having rights to declare their own official languages.[14][15] The Ukrainian language, despite official encouragement and government funding, like other regional languages, was often frowned upon or quietly discouraged, which led to a gradual decline in its usage. " (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russi...ssion_and_fostering_of_the_Ukrainian_language)

I recall very well speaking with a Ukranian immigrant to the US who refused to utter a word in Russian, though she spoke it fluently, because she had been forced to learn it while living under the thumb of the empire.
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Ukrainians are slavs. They speak a Form If russian. Germany are germanic and have totally different language, culture and mentality.
 
If somebody is interested, thats my homeland: - and I think Rostockers Area is similar - only far in the east and far away from western cities influence - anyway in no way representative to whole Germany.
 
Rostocker said:
Ukrainians are slavs. They speak a Form If russian. Germany are germanic and have totally different language, culture and mentality.
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as eastern Germans are mostly - until the middle ages it was all Slavia and there was no population exchange :)
 
Rostocker said:
Ukrainians are slavs. They speak a Form If russian. Germany are germanic and have totally different language, culture and mentality.
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In 1989, 50.8% of Germans under the USSR spoke Russian as their native language, and 95.8% spoke it as their first or second language. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_the_Soviet_Union) Claim a different mentality all you want, but Germany was clearly in the process of learning Russian under the USSR, and I doubt it was because Germans freely decided they preferred their rulers' language to their own.
 
german hick said:
as eastern Germans are mostly - until the middle ages it was all Slavia and there was no population exchange :)
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Wrong again. We are middle Germans. Thuringia / Sachsen Anhalt ect. But how could you know? You believe goblins help Power Cars.
 
german hick said:
If somebody is interested, thats my homeland: - and I think Rostockers Area is similar - only far in the east and far away from western cities influence - anyway in no way representative to whole Germany.
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Since when is Thüringen far in the east? Dude you suck in geography. I know you Guys learn only clapping and Dancing at school or as our teacher Said, a west german abitur has the value of our Hauptschule.
 
skeptic llc said:
In 1989, 50.8% of Germans under the USSR spoke Russian as their native language, and 95.8% spoke it as their first or second language. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_the_Soviet_Union) Claim a different mentality all you want, but Germany was clearly in the process of learning Russian under the USSR, and I doubt it was because Germans freely decided they preferred their rulers' language to their own.
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Dude you are wrong. Eastern Germany was Not Part of the USSR. Your Link talks about German Russians, the german minority in Russia. As your own link states, in USSR lived 2.000.000 Germans, 50.8% of those spoke Russian. Inside the USSR. They were not in Eastern Germany and had not even german citizenship.

Did you believe Eastern Germany was part of USSR? 😅

Thats typical for americans. No clue but talking bullshit with full selfesteem.

In 1989 not even 1% in eastern Germany spoke Russian.

Americans are dumb 😅
 
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Rostocker said:
Dude you are wrong. Eastern Germany was Not Part of the USSR. Your Link talks about German Russians, the german minority in Russia. As your own link states, in USSR lived 20.000 Germans, 50.8% of those spoke Russian.

Did you believe Eastern Germany was part of USSR? 😅

Thats typical for americans. No clue but talking bullshit with full selfesteem.

In 1989 not even 1% in eastern Germany spoke Russian.
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Starting in 1949, Russian language was mandatory in all East German schools. So everyone was taught; few may have retained much.
 
Rostocker said:
Wrong again. We are middle Germans. Thuringia / Sachsen Anhalt ect. But how could you know? You believe goblins help Power Cars.
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from my perspective it is far east - and insults dont´give you right - although you permanentely try hard

Anhalt was conquered by the Saxons in the time of the (Saxon) Ottonen Emperiors. But there was no population exchange. Even in parts of Holstein there were slavs. When the Saxon dukedom went to the east to Meißen after the fail of Henry the lion, the land today called Saxony emerged. But there are no ethnic Saxons living in Saxony - it´s a mixture from thuringian and slavic influences as the language is. About th old Thuringian Kingdom nobody knows much - not even if they where germannic people.
 
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