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George Zimmerman goes on depraved Twitter rant after retweeting picture of [W:469]

Re: George Zimmerman goes on depraved Twitter rant after retweeting picture of Trayvo

A strange quiet entered this room when I mentioned the fact that the only person involved on this case who was shown by the evidence to be racist is Trayvom Martin. Wonder why that brought such deafening silence??
 
Re: George Zimmerman goes on depraved Twitter rant after retweeting picture of Trayvo

A strange quiet entered this room when I mentioned the fact that the only person involved on this case who was shown by the evidence to be racist is Trayvom Martin. Wonder why that brought such deafening silence??

For someone like myself who agreed with the jury's verdict, and based my opinion on the evidence and testimony, including my opinions on Zimmerman, I never found that aspect particularly relevant. Trayvon Martin wasn't on trial, so it wasn't his beliefs that were important to me, but rather the actions he took that night and whether Zimmerman did anything to justify them.

For those who disregarded the evidence and testimony, who believe that the Jury's verdict was wrong, and continue to insist (without any evidence) that motivated by racism, George Zimmerman murdered Trayvon Martin, addressing or even acknowledging that particular aspect would not only derail their "racism" argument, but would expose them as total hypocrites.


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Re: George Zimmerman goes on depraved Twitter rant after retweeting picture of Trayvo

For someone like myself who agreed with the jury's verdict, and based my opinion on the evidence and testimony, including my opinions on Zimmerman, I never found that aspect particularly relevant. Trayvon Martin wasn't on trial, so it wasn't his beliefs that were important to me, but rather the actions he took that night and whether Zimmerman did anything to justify them.

For those who disregarded the evidence and testimony, who believe that the Jury's verdict was wrong, and continue to insist (without any evidence) that motivated by racism, George Zimmerman murdered Trayvon Martin, addressing or even acknowledging that particular aspect would not only derail their "racism" argument, but would expose them as total hypocrites.


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The question has been asked if Martin was white would Zimmerman have followed him. I say yes.

If Zimmerman had bee black, would Martin have attacked him?
 
Re: George Zimmerman goes on depraved Twitter rant after retweeting picture of Trayvo

The question has been asked if Martin was white would Zimmerman have followed him. I say yes.

I'm not sure on that one. The reason I say that is because there had been several recent robberies his neighborhood, and the person doing it was a young black man. Since Trayvon was black and Zimmerman didn't recognise him as a resident, his race may have been the deciding factor in choosing to followed him... Understand, I think that's possible, but I honestly don't know.

Even if that were the case it doesn't make him a racist, nor does it make anything he did illegal or improper.

If Zimmerman had bee black, would Martin have attacked him?

That's another question I have no answer for, nor does anyone else. The one thing I am sure of, is that Martin sized up Zimmerman and believed he could take him out in a fight, otherwise he would have high tailed it home instead of ambushing him.
 
Re: George Zimmerman goes on depraved Twitter rant after retweeting picture of Trayvo

I'm not sure on that one. The reason I say that is because there had been several recent robberies his neighborhood, and the person doing it was a young black man. Since Trayvon was black and Zimmerman didn't recognise him as a resident, his race may have been the deciding factor in choosing to followed him... Understand, I think that's possible, but I honestly don't know.

Even if that were the case it doesn't make him a racist, nor does it make anything he did illegal or improper.



That's another question I have no answer for, nor does anyone else. The one thing I am sure of, is that Martin sized up Zimmerman and believed he could take him out in a fight, otherwise he would have high tailed it home instead of ambushing him.

That is absolutely true.
 
Re: George Zimmerman goes on depraved Twitter rant after retweeting picture of Trayvo

Okay, you have nothing hat refutes what I've said on the subject.
D'oh!
You are the one who has failed to refute and actually address the subject.
You can't spin that.
Either refute what was provided (which you can't) or stop replying.





Ohhhhhhhhhh...

Okay.

I see what your problem is.

You've just got a distorted view of reality.

Now it makes sense.

Still and all:

Soot: 1

Excon: 0

Victory is mine!!!
Oh look, another comment which isn't based in reality. Figures.

You were shown to be wrong, and nothing you said was true (much like your current "victory" claim iLOL) and you getting shown to be wrong was not just done by me.
You are unable to refute this and instead resort to untruthfulness.
Strange behavior to say the least.
 
Re: George Zimmerman goes on depraved Twitter rant after retweeting picture of Trayvo

Exactly what would be the moral difference between posting it and re-tweeting it?
The same difference of someone quoting you and saying someone else said it.
It is a lie.
 
Re: George Zimmerman goes on depraved Twitter rant after retweeting picture of Trayvo

"but the jury felt that the shooting was self defense."

Not true. At least some on the jury acquitted on the false belief Zimmerman had to INTEND to kill him when he pulled the trigger. These are trial basics 101 and people still do not know them.
Your reply is again dishonest.
The jury did find self defense.
Even the one juror you keep referring to found the same thing. Her further comments were nothing but bs and other jurors publicly distanced themselves from her bs.


But when the people making the decision do not understand the law it inherently means the law is NOT being used for verdicts.
Nonsense, that is not what happened in this case.


LOl......love it when people are forced to cite blogs over Zimmerman's own words.
More nonsense.
The blog cites the evidence and points out reality which you obviously can not refute.

There was no chase.


When someone said he did not act with any racism that was also an opinion.
No, that is a statement based on the known evidence as well as the lack of any evidence of racism.


Getting hit had NOTHING to do with why he pulled his gun and killed Martin.
You have already been proven wrong on this.
Getting his head slammed into the ground was part and parcel of the entire event and contributes to the reason he fired.


it is simply not plausible Martin saw the gun before he was shot
And you are wrong as the evidence says otherwise.


Which means Zimmerman was not justified in killing him.
This is an absurd position as Trayvon attacking him and slamming his head into the ground while on top of him is reason enough to shoot in self defense.
You simply can not refute that reality.
The fact that what I said is true, means there would be no reason to make up the aspect of Trayvon going for the gum which makes it believable.


Then explain why Zimmerman never called the cops on a white guy under the same circumstances.
iLOL
What white guy acting the same way under the same circumstances?
This is just you making **** up in an attempt to justify your lame convoluted opinion which isn't based in facts.


Explain why Zimmerman called the cops on only African Americans for that "suspicion" in the 18 months before killing him.
iLOL
He doesn't need to.
Just like you don't need to explain why there were only black folks committing crimes in the neighborhood.


There is also no evidence he was looking in anyone's house.
Wrong.
There was an eye witness to it and the person even called the police on him for doing it.


When you say:

"F–king punks. These a–holes. They always get away’"

You passed suspicion and moved right into conviction.
This is convoluted rubbish.


It is pretty sad the best you can do is quote posts, ignore the facts, then pretend you accomplished anything.
You are only speaking of your own postings.


That clearly shows Zimmerman already condemned him as a criminal and you know that but instead of being honest or accidentally dropping any integrity you completely ignore how you were proven wrong and create a strawman that those words have anything to do with race.
And you are wrong as it does not show that.
Nor does it matter to Trayvon attacking him.

Zimmerman could have been the biggest Hispanic/Latino racist against blacks in the entire world and it would not matter one bit to him defending himself against Trayvon's attack upon him.
It simply doesn't matter and is nothing more than a distraction.


You are so desperate and beyond repair
And again you speak to your own position.


This is someone who called the cops so often dispatch got to a point of answering with "Hi George!"
What you think of it is irrelevant.


why dont you address how many times he called to report African Americans in the 18 months before he killed Martin?
It is irrelevant to having to use self defense against Trayvon's attack.


Just highlight how many times he called the cops on African Americans compared to Caucasians.
Irrelevant as someone demanding you explain why only black folks were acting in a manner that required Zimmerman to call the police on them.


Dont worry, now that I see you are excon-like there is no point in reading or responding to your posts.
Stop baiting with your bs.
 
Re: George Zimmerman goes on depraved Twitter rant after retweeting picture of Trayvo

Stopped reading with:

"Do you have evidence he spotted a white guy in the same clothing acting the same way? And then didn't call the cops? Zimmerman is Hispanic btw."

What does Zimmerman being Hispanic have to do with anything? Oh. It is because you are another person who does not understand being hispanic is no different from being irish. Hispanic is not a race so Zimmerman is a caucasian as even he has self identified as on past forms.

In any case, you are asking for proof of a young white guy walking through his neighborhood at 7pm in light rain in the previous two years before he killed Martin. If you do not see how absurd it is to believe he never saw another white guy walking in his neighborhood there is nothing anyone can do to help.

Also, I will not even ask you to address why he only called the cops on "suspicious" African Americans. Since you do not know the difference between race and ethnicity the convo is already dead.

So what I'm REALLY hearing is that you can't prove your claims of racism, you can't address the fact that trayvon DID look suspicious, and Zimmerman had every right to call the police. Furthermore...you WANT Zimmerman to be white because it is a better story if a white man kills a black kid. Never mind that race was completely irrelevant in this incident.

You are right. This was dead. But not because of race. Because you won't acknowledge facts on the incident.
 
Re: George Zimmerman goes on depraved Twitter rant after retweeting picture of Trayvo

So what I'm REALLY hearing is that you can't prove your claims of racism, you can't address the fact that trayvon DID look suspicious, and Zimmerman had every right to call the police. Furthermore...you WANT Zimmerman to be white because it is a better story if a white man kills a black kid. Never mind that race was completely irrelevant in this incident.

You are right. This was dead. But not because of race. Because you won't acknowledge facts on the incident.

What I find more than a little ironic is that if Zim was just another black guy getting away with killing a back teenager, no one would care. There are thousands of unsolved black on black murders in the US. Where's the outrage?
 
Re: George Zimmerman goes on depraved Twitter rant after retweeting picture of Trayvo

I'm not sure on that one. The reason I say that is because there had been several recent robberies his neighborhood, and the person doing it was a young black man. Since Trayvon was black and Zimmerman didn't recognise him as a resident, his race may have been the deciding factor in choosing to followed him... Understand, I think that's possible, but I honestly don't know.

Even if that were the case it doesn't make him a racist, nor does it make anything he did illegal or improper.



That's another question I have no answer for, nor does anyone else. The one thing I am sure of, is that TM sized up Zim and believed he could take him out in a fight, otherwise he would have high tailed it home instead of ambushing him.
I'm willing to agree TM would've run if he'd spied Zim's gun but then there is that case in Missouri where the suspect grappled with the cop's gun. Were there 'hallucinogens' in the content of TM's blood, too? If so, would that lack of awareness and that TM knew he was being followed by Zim embolden TM to retaliate against Zim not knowing who Zim was except for size?

Had the two met before that night?
 
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Re: George Zimmerman goes on depraved Twitter rant after retweeting picture of [W:469

If there is anyone wondering if there is any evidence of racism against African Americans this is a good example because if this were a Muslim who retweeted a dead American followed by mocking hatred and celebration over the needless death of an unarmed individual we would see several media shows and threads covering it as "proof" of Islam as a "terrorist" organization.

Let's broad-stroke everyone because of what one Latino man (a despicable one at that) does on twitter.

On a side note -

Isn't "African American" kind of dated? What if his family ties go back to Haiti or Jamaica? We are the only country that performs these ridiculous linguistic gymnastics.
 
Re: George Zimmerman goes on depraved Twitter rant after retweeting picture of Trayvo

So what I'm REALLY hearing is that you can't prove your claims of racism, you can't address the fact that trayvon DID look suspicious, and Zimmerman had every right to call the police. Furthermore...you WANT Zimmerman to be white because it is a better story if a white man kills a black kid. Never mind that race was completely irrelevant in this incident.

You are right. This was dead. But not because of race. Because you won't acknowledge facts on the incident.

You are just repeating the purposeful blindness because actually addressing the facts means admitting you have made errors.
 
Re: George Zimmerman goes on depraved Twitter rant after retweeting picture of Trayvo

We have to take the opinion of the government investigators over the opinion of a man who surrendered to pressure after the fact.

Do you think an investigators opinion based on interviews and actions is the same as an unknown person who's motives are unknown?

Surrendered to pressure after the fact? Freaking hilarious.

He was under no pressure at the time but if that is what you have to say....okay.

Bottom line is in the months before killing Martin the ONLY people he accused of being criminals were African Americans. The transcripts of his calls are available and Det. Serino even pointed it out.

What I do not understand is why people think the FBI wants to find racism or that somehow the DOJ would be objective. The primary reason they do not want to find racism is they do not want a national run on their offices. The standards are so ridiculously high investigations are nothing but a ruse because without a basic recorded confession they will say racism was not a factor. I bet Roof could have claimed he chose the church at random and people like you would be defending him.
 
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Had the two met before that night?

According to Zim and everyone interviewed by police, they had never met prior to that confrontation.
 
Re: George Zimmerman goes on depraved Twitter rant after retweeting picture of [W:469

Let's broad-stroke everyone because of what one Latino man (a despicable one at that) does on twitter.

On a side note -

Isn't "African American" kind of dated? What if his family ties go back to Haiti or Jamaica? We are the only country that performs these ridiculous linguistic gymnastics.

Thanks for the feedback and it may be beneficial to learn of the reasons for the term African American and the differences between Latino and Hispanic.
 
Re: George Zimmerman goes on depraved Twitter rant after retweeting picture of [W:469

Thanks for the feedback and it may be beneficial to learn of the reasons for the term African American and the differences between Latino and Hispanic.

Learn the reasons for the term African American? We're idiots. No other reason. African American should refer to an individual who emigrates Africa to live in the United States - and this person can be white because the continent of Africa does have white natives.

There's not much difference between Latino and Hispanic. I chose Latino because that refers to descendants of Latin-America - Hispanic implies he speaks Spanish, which I'm not sure he does. Fun fact - Latin America appears in definitions of both words.
 
Re: George Zimmerman goes on depraved Twitter rant after retweeting picture of [W:469

Learn the reasons for the term African American? We're idiots. No other reason. African American should refer to an individual who emigrates Africa to live in the United States - and this person can be white because the continent of Africa does have white natives.

There's not much difference between Latino and Hispanic. I chose Latino because that refers to descendants of Latin-America - Hispanic implies he speaks Spanish, which I'm not sure he does. Fun fact - Latin America appears in definitions of both words.

Hispanic does not imply he speaks spanish. It is only a geograph......nevermind.

Have a great day.
 
Re: George Zimmerman goes on depraved Twitter rant after retweeting picture of Trayvo

But when the people making the decision do not understand the law it inherently means the law is NOT being used for verdicts.

I've sat back and watched you twist everything so that it meets your agenda, and what you completely lack is anything to substantiate that BS.

Myself and at least one other person on this thread, watched every single day of that trial and because we are familiar with all the evidence and testimony given, we know that the things you are presenting here are as bogus as the day is long.

You twist, distort and manipulate the facts, as well as flat out make them up, all to satisfy some agenda of yours. I really hope the day soon comes when you realize that no agenda is worth sacrificing the truth over.
 
Re: George Zimmerman goes on depraved Twitter rant after retweeting picture of Trayvo

I've sat back and watched you twist everything so that it meets your agenda, and what you completely lack is anything to substantiate that BS.

Myself and at least one other person on this thread, watched every single day of that trial and because we are familiar with all the evidence and testimony given, we know that the things you are presenting here are as bogus as the day is long.

You twist, distort and manipulate the facts, as well as flat out make them up, all to satisfy some agenda of yours. I really hope the day soon comes when you realize that no agenda is worth sacrificing the truth over.

Yet you ignored every single disagreeable fact, continue to make false accusations, and use strawmen. It is sad you claim to be so well informed yet did not know Zimmerman's reason for pulling the trigger. You did not know he only accused African Americans of being criminals in the months leading up to the killing. You did not know he had convicted Martin of being a criminal for simply walking. Maybe in another ten years some of that information will make it past your Disagreeable Fact Filter. (We can always hope!)

Good luck.
 
Re: George Zimmerman goes on depraved Twitter rant after retweeting picture of Trayvo

Yet you ignored every single disagreeable fact, continue to make false accusations, and use strawmen.

Correction... I've disagreed and ignored your assertions. As soon as you present any actual "facts" that you can back up with links, I will be glad to address them.


It is sad you claim to be so well informed yet did not know Zimmerman's reason for pulling the trigger. You did not know he only accused African Americans of being criminals in the months leading up to the killing. You did not know he had convicted Martin of being a criminal for simply walking. Maybe in another ten years some of that information will make it past your Disagreeable Fact Filter. (We can always hope!)

There... That's exactly the manipulating of facts I was talking about. You take partial information and twist it so that it meets your agenda.

It's very sad and certainly a waste of time discussing with you.
 
Re: George Zimmerman goes on depraved Twitter rant after retweeting picture of [W:469

Hispanic does not imply he speaks spanish. It is only a geograph......nevermind.

Have a great day.

His·pan·ic
hiˈspanik/
adjective
1.
of or relating to Spain or to Spanish-speaking countries, especially those of Latin America.
noun
1.
a Spanish-speaking person living in the US, especially one of Latin American descent.
 
Re: George Zimmerman goes on depraved Twitter rant after retweeting picture of Trayvo

Surrendered to pressure after the fact? Freaking hilarious.

He was under no pressure at the time but if that is what you have to say....okay.

Bottom line is in the months before killing Martin the ONLY people he accused of being criminals were African Americans. The transcripts of his calls are available and Det. Serino even pointed it out.

That doesn't make him a racist, it makes him a realist.
 
Re: George Zimmerman goes on depraved Twitter rant after retweeting picture of Trayvo

Correction... I've disagreed and ignored your assertions. As soon as you present any actual "facts" that you can back up with links, I will be glad to address them.




There... That's exactly the manipulating of facts I was talking about. You take partial information and twist it so that it meets your agenda.

It's very sad and certainly a waste of time discussing with you.

You claimed he only "suspected" Martin of doing wrong.

I quoted Zimmerman's own words clearly showing how he had concluded Martin was a criminal with the words:

“F—— punks. These a——-. They always get away.”

You ignored it proved he concluded Martin was a criminal then claimed it did not prove racism--which of course was not my reason for posting those words and you knew that but you continued the unabashed dishonesty because otherwise you would have to admit your mistakes.

I bet you cannot remember the last time you admitted an error of any significance.
 
Re: George Zimmerman goes on depraved Twitter rant after retweeting picture of Trayvo

That doesn't make him a racist, it makes him a realist.


Thank you for another demonstration of your racism.
 
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