Well, a 4-month-old baby isn't being told much of anything.
Gender and sex are different. Sex is the physical presentation of a person. Gender is their internal identity.
The child shouldn't be told what their gender is. Most people have a gender that is consistent with their sex. Some don't. Either way is fine.
"To be free of societal norms". That is their motive. Every action has a reason.
What else can be free of societal norms? Naked resorts, man babies, people who permanently ink every inch of their bodies including whites and iris of the eye..
It appears to be a desire for attention.
It definitely doesn't sound like they are looking for attention. They did an interview with a newspaper (doesn't say if they initiated interview or if someone else pointed the reporter in their direction) but they turned down further interviews specificially saying that they didn't want the attention. We'll see if they do more interviews in the future, but it is too earlier to claim that they are looking for attention without knowing why they did the first interview.
Wow... somebody is living in 1523.
Internal gender identity is a popular myth, MistressNomad. It is a belief. It cannot be scientifically proven. Belief is the death of intelligence. I may wish myself Japanese, but it is not so. I may wish I had no gender but it is not so. I may wish myself an animal, but it is not so. A dog may wish itself a cat, but it is not so. It is internal confusion that locks both religion, and science.
The child should also not be told what its gender isn't. If the child is a female, do not lie to it by telling her she is a boy or tenderness. Who are you to say that? What do you know?
Some off the other posts, to me, seem merely annoying. I will not bother putting them through their paces.
Internal gender identity is a popular myth, MistressNomad. It is a belief. It cannot be scientifically proven. Belief is the death of intelligence. I may wish myself Japanese, but it is not so. I may wish I had no gender but it is not so. I may wish myself an animal, but it is not so. A dog may wish itself a cat, but it is not so. It is internal confusion that locks both religion, and science.
The child should also not be told what its gender isn't. If the child is a female, do not lie to it by telling her she is a boy or tenderness. Who are you to say that? What do you know?
Some off the other posts, to me, seem merely annoying. I will not bother putting them through their paces.
Seems a little sad, though, to have to refer to a child as "it".
Seems a little sad, though, to have to refer to a child as "it".
How about just referring to the child as "child" or by his/her name, Storm? So they limited how other people and they can refer to their child, big deal. As long as however people refer to the child, it isn't degrading, then there should be no harm.
There are gender-neutral pronouns in limited use. Ze/zir is one of the more common ones.
People are just going to know those? I've never heard of them.
They are stupid and will likely fail.
I'm pretty well convinced that gender is biological.
Shouldn't they have the freedom to raise their child as they wish? Or should the government tell them what to do?
They are stupid and will likely fail.
I'm pretty well convinced that gender is biological.
I am a little surprised more people are are not concerned about the possible out come later for this child. I really didn't expect the responses.
If you Google: "effects of raising a child gender neutral" you will find this is not the first time this has come up.
I also want to point out that all I did was give my opinion I never said anything should be done about it. I was voicing my personal concern.
You're right. But not enforcing what that gender should be doesn't harm the child. It just frees them from expectation of exactly what kind, and how much, gender expression they have.
So, you're suggesting boys and girls are actually different, biologically and otherwise? That's crazy talk.
So, you're suggesting boys and girls are actually different, biologically and otherwise? That's crazy talk.
I just find it utterly absurd.
They have to go out of their way to do something that will likely, not succeed.
They are free to do so, but I wish people would spend more time thinking of these things before pursuing them.
It makes them look like idiots.
Try this one out.
If gender were a social construct, then why do transgender people exist?
...everyone is now blown away.
They aren't trying to "succeed" in anything. They're just trying to allow their child their natural degree of expression, rather than forcing a hyper-stereotypical gender role on them.
Like I said, if the child gets older and has a particular expression and the parents try to force androgyny on them, then that is wrong. But we haven't seen that to be the case yet. The child is still a baby.
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