Chiefgator
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Can judges really refuse that sort of thing? They're civil servants. I have problem with religious leaders refusing their particular service to people, but the government shouldn't be allowed to do so.
Can judges really refuse that sort of thing? They're civil servants. I have problem with religious leaders refusing their particular service to people, but the government shouldn't be allowed to do so.
Yes they can and the will have suffer the consequences.
A better query would be if it is criminal? And I would say no.
No, it shouldn't be criminal. But for government employees, such as a judge, they should be dismissed for disallowing the law.
I am in favor of gay marriage, but this judge needs to be fired for not doing her job.
Judges are elected in Texas. And she has not broken a single law.
I am in favor of gay marriage, but this judge needs to be fired for not doing her job.
No Dan.She has every right to work in the areas that she would prefer.
Marriage contract is a government issued and recognized contract. Her refusal to issue on when legally requested shows that her personal bias will get in the way of her performing her proper and rightful duties as an important civil servant. A judge is not there to act upon their religious or personal convictions. They are there to make sure the law is upheld (which was not done through refusal of government entity to issue a government contract when lawfully requested) and to ensure justice is served. If she cannot put her religious or personal convictions aside to properly perform her duties as a judge (one of the most important positions we have in relation to exercise of government force against the individual), than she should not be allowed to be a judge.
Inability to do your job should be grounds for dismissal.
But the is upheld here in Texas. The law doesn't say she has marry people.
No. This ain't the private sector, this is government. They uphold the full of their duty, or they get out. That's it. There's no compromise with government.
It appears she's simply refusing to perform any marriage ceremonies at all (which in Texas means straight marriage only). Not sure that she doesn't have that discretion; she probably does.
The government must issue contracts which are properly and legally applied for. The government is not allowed to insert personal opinion to the exercise of their duties. They do it, or they get out. That's it. The government cannot be allowed personal bias when executing the duties we charge it with. It either does it, or it gets replaced. That's all there is to it.
Well, you get fired in the free market. It's a bit more difficult in government (mafia)
And again Judges are elected in Texas. It is up to the people to vote her out.
If the government is not held to the just and rightful demands of the People, then we are in deep ****.
I don't think that any particular judge is required to do marriage ceremonies (though I may be wrong; that's a typical thing, but I don't know TX law). She's not doing any.
Now, if she were in a jurisdiction which has both SSM and straight marriage, and she did SSM ceremonies but refused to do straight marriage ceremonies, then there'd be a far stronger claim against her.
Can judges really refuse that sort of thing? They're civil servants. I have problem with religious leaders refusing their particular service to people, but the government shouldn't be allowed to do so.
According to what I've read, Texas law does not require any judge to perform weddings at all.