Gay Military

[Awesome!]

Would a 100% gay military be just as competent as a 100% hetero military?

 

[rathi]

The gay military would win for sure. No man could possibly bring himself to shoot lesbians who shower together in cold blood. :2razz:

Realistically, it shouldn't matter what the sexual preferences of the soldiers are. There has never been a military of any size that was exclusively one orientation before. Some of the ancient civilizations had soldiers that would rate as "pretty damn gay" like the Spartans, and they were plenty capable.

 

[johnjoel]

I'm not sure what one does in their bedroom, on the kitchen table, in the shower, behind the bushes, on top of the fridge, in the elevator, in the McDonalds bathroom, in the office during business hours, in the backseat, has anything to do with military action.

 

[Metternich]

Rape cases would have a new twist to them.

 

[johnjoel]

Rape cases would have a new twist to them.

No, they still call that rape. Just rape.

 

[Metternich]

No, they still call that rape. Just rape.

I don't know where you grew up, where you expect us to be sending troops, but you'll have a hard time explaining that to a Muslim country.

Try to look at this pragmatically, please? We won't be sending our troops to some post-morality European nation; most hotspots of the 21st Century are going to be in very strict moral societies. Be it Eastern Europe, Middle East, Far East they all wouldn't not consider it the same.

To believe otherwise, is just refusing to look at other cultural's mindset critically.

 

[johnjoel]

I don't know where you grew up, where you expect us to be sending troops, but you'll have a hard time explaining that to a Muslim country.

Try to look at this pragmatically, please? We won't be sending our troops to some post-morality European nation; most hotspots of the 21st Century are going to be in very strict moral societies. Be it Eastern Europe, Middle East, Far East they all wouldn't not consider it the same.

To believe otherwise, is just refusing to look at other cultural's mindset critically.

Yeah I was using a dictionary. My bad... :roll:

 

[Metternich]

Yeah I was using a dictionary. My bad... :roll:

Your Oxford Dictionary to explain Tehran?

It's okay, you can't be expected to actually 'know' where your sending the troops. Just "over there" where the "towel heads" are, right? :rofl

I'd urge you to find a Arab dictionary before you make any more remarks.

 

[partier9]

Would a 100% gay military be just as competent as a 100% hetero military?

Well it depends on the gays really:

If they are normal gays aka people who are gay and make no big deal about it and live normal lives then I see no problem.

If they are the guys who go to the San Fransico Gay Pride Parades and wear those crazy outfits or my gay neighbor who is a cross dressing crystal meth dealer then yes there might be a problem.

 

[Alex]

Would a 100% gay military be just as competent as a 100% hetero military?

As long as they follow every other rule that any military would, it would be no problem. The military has its missions, if a person cannot focus on that mission, they do not belong in the service. That goes for gays and straights.

 

[gunner]

As long as they follow every other rule that any military would, it would be no problem. The military has its missions, if a person cannot focus on that mission, they do not belong in the service. That goes for gays and straights.

Have you served in the Military?

Paul

 

[OxymoronP]

Would a 100% gay military be just as competent as a 100% hetero military?

Most likely, it was so in the Greek times.

 

[SgtRock]

Most likely, it was so in the Greek times.

We all know that those Greeks spend there days decorating closets and listeng to show tunes.

 

[SgtRock]

There have always been gays in the military. When I served they kept it to themselfs. They had partners but didn't flaunt their sexuality. Most gays who are masculine types you wouldn't know if they were gay or not. Im not sure it would be such a good idea to have flamboyant feminine gays in the military. Because its all an act, be gay who cares but be real. Some feminine gays try to hard to express their gayness. Frankly I find it disgusting. Thats just my opinion, not hatin on anyone.

 

[Kali]

This should be a Poll.. And YES.. It would!!

 

[Kali]

I don't know where you grew up, where you expect us to be sending troops, but you'll have a hard time explaining that to a Muslim country.

Try to look at this pragmatically, please? We won't be sending our troops to some post-morality European nation; most hotspots of the 21st Century are going to be in very strict moral societies. Be it Eastern Europe, Middle East, Far East they all wouldn't not consider it the same.

To believe otherwise, is just refusing to look at other cultural's mindset critically.

We are the U.S.A. and do not have to "explain" anything to anybody! Some of those Muslim countries think women should be repressed but we do not have to Explain the fact we got women in our service to them!

 

[Awesome!]

There was a gay military guy recently killed close to where I live at Camp Pendleton. They are investigating it as a hate crime and now some interest groups are wanting the don't ask don't tell policy to be reviewed again. I think that it makes it unfair to the hetero members of the military if gay people can be open and it is equivalent to hetero men sharing showers with hetero women on base which would create too many problems. I think that if gays want to be open in the military then lesbians should have to serve with men and homosexuals should have to serve with women. As far as the masculine males that no one knows they are gay, I think they want to remain in secret anyway, so no harm done.

 

[Alex]

Have you served in the Military?

Paul

Yes, and I was openly gay. No one cared because they all understood what they were there for.

 

[rathi]

I think that it makes it unfair to the hetero members of the military if gay people can be open and it is equivalent to hetero men sharing showers with hetero women on base which would create too many problems.

Gay service members already shower with straight service members of the same gender. Amazingly enough, most military members are more mature that middle school aged kids, and can shower with pretty much anyone no problem.

I think that if gays want to be open in the military then lesbians should have to serve with men and homosexuals should have to serve with women.

What about bisexuals? Do they get to choose? Or do they get their own special unit. While we are grouping people based on their sexual preferences, I think we should have a bondage battalion and a chubby-chaser company. Wouldn't want anyone of different preferences in the same unit after all, clearly we should focus our military organization on orientation rather than battlefield requirements.

As far as the masculine males that no one knows they are gay, I think they want to remain in secret anyway, so no harm done.

Well you thought wrong. You don't speak for the gay population, especially with your complete lack of empathy. How would you feel in you could get fired if someone found of you were straight? You have to lie even for everyday stuff like "what did you do last weekend?" or "where did you get that new watch?".

 

[American]

You think a gay military could ever settle on a uniform?

 

[Oozlefinch]

Personally, I support the "Don't Ask - Don't Tell" policy.

I do not care if a person is gay or not. And I knew gay people I served with in the 1980's, and again currently. But I really don't want to know.

And for me, this is consistant. I do not care what actor, politician, or singer is gay either. Mostly what I am sick and tired of is having people's "Gayness" shoved down my throat.

I also do not like hearing "Brag Stories" from my fellow Hetero service members either. When some guy starts talking about his latest conquest, I walk away when at all possible.

 

[Awesome!]

Gay service members already shower with straight service members of the same gender. Amazingly enough, most military members are more mature that middle school aged kids, and can shower with pretty much anyone no problem.



What about bisexuals? Do they get to choose? Or do they get their own special unit. While we are grouping people based on their sexual preferences, I think we should have a bondage battalion and a chubby-chaser company. Wouldn't want anyone of different preferences in the same unit after all, clearly we should focus our military organization on orientation rather than battlefield requirements.



Well you thought wrong. You don't speak for the gay population, especially with your complete lack of empathy. How would you feel in you could get fired if someone found of you were straight? You have to lie even for everyday stuff like "what did you do last weekend?" or "where did you get that new watch?".

With that logic that all military members are comfortable showering, then let's have women shower with men. It's equivalent to openly gay men showering with hetero men...

Bi-sexuals? That is my point, why do we need to know what your preference is? It's not important to military objectives, but for the absurdity of the argument, Bi-sexuals would be their own special operations unit...

Lack of empathy. No I don't at all, however the military is not in the business of empathy, it's in the business of being a competent killing machine and people coming out openly disrupts that efficiency in my opinion and that is why it is the existing policy.

 

[apdst]

Would a 100% gay military be just as competent as a 100% hetero military?

Not if you look at it from a historical perspective.

 

[rathi]

With that logic that all military members are comfortable showering, then let's have women shower with men. It's equivalent to openly gay men showering with hetero men...

Gay men have been openly showering in high school locker rooms no problem for a while now. Do you think soldiers are less disciplined that a bunch of high school kids? Furthermore, even men and women showering together isn't that big of a deal.

Bi-sexuals? That is my point, why do we need to know what your preference is? It's not important to military objectives, but for the absurdity of the argument, Bi-sexuals would be their own special operations unit...

We don't. However, unless you want to kick out hetero's for revealing that they have wives and girlfriends, that doesn't hold water. Sexuality has no relevance to military operations, and thus kicking people out for it is stupid.

Lack of empathy. No I don't at all, however the military is not in the business of empathy, it's in the business of being a competent killing machine and people coming out openly disrupts that efficiency in my opinion and that is why it is the existing policy.

I was referring to your absurd statement that non-twink gays like being forced in the closet. I agree the military is not is the business of empathy, and thus kicking out competent soldiers because some frightened ***** can't handle being around a gay dude is a bad policy.

 

[rathi]

Not if you look at it from a historical perspective.

What historical examples can you provide. The Greeks, Romans and Persians were rather gay, and they were probably the greatest military powers of their day.