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Gallup: Share of Democrats reaches record low

US Conservative said:
One side pushes to import illegal immigrants to prop up its spending, and for votes.

I wouldn't call that balance.
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A myth that will never come true no matter how many times you repeat it.
 
EnigmaO01 said:
A myth that will never come true no matter how many times you repeat it.
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Maybe you can help me out here, but I live in a country where illegals get kicked the **** out tres rapide.

If it is a myth, then why do Democratic governments, especially California go out of their way to accommodate illegal aliens? We hear today that the president of the Democratic party is outraged at a suggestion that illegal aliens should be illegal. She says they are the economic backbone of America.

So we know in part it is for cheep labor so the billion dollar movie stars can afford to get their lawns mowed, but that many? If the Democratic party doesn't benefit, then why do they do it? And don't even suggest there is any ethical evaluation there, we're talking about a party that made a hero out of a serial sex abuser.
 
Fearandloathing said:
Maybe you can help me out here, but I live in a country where illegals get kicked the **** out tres rapide.

If it is a myth, then why do Democratic governments, especially California go out of their way to accommodate illegal aliens? We hear today that the president of the Democratic party is outraged at a suggestion that illegal aliens should be illegal. She says they are the economic backbone of America.

So we know in part it is for cheep labor so the billion dollar movie stars can afford to get their lawns mowed, but that many? If the Democratic party doesn't benefit, then why do they do it? And don't even suggest there is any ethical evaluation there, we're talking about a party that made a hero out of a serial sex abuser.
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No there's no ethical evaluation at all. If illegals were coming into this country and voting Republican than Obama and the Democrat gang would be rounding them up by the bus load and deporting them or locking them up no questions asked.

What you have to understand is that long ago the Democrat party realized that there is a large percentage of the population that are perfectly content with letting someone else give them free money for doing nothing. These are people that have no desire to strive for or achieve anything in life. They have no work ethic or motivation of any kind. This of course has nothing to do with race or country of origin. It has do with the fact that at least half of the people on this planet or worthless crap that have no desire to achieve anything or work for anything. To that end, they are perfectly okay with the government sending them a small check every few weeks just for sitting at the house and watching TV all day. The democrats figured out that if you give these people a check every month they become life long voters and to ensure their loyalty you convince them that the other party (Republicans) want to take away all their free government hand outs. Presto, instant democrat voter. So when they hear a Republican politician talking about working hard and saving money and working all day to support your family it turns them right off because they hate the very idea of it. What they want is to sit around the house like the lazy crap that they are and do nothing and if they think the Democrat party is the party that is going to keep the gravy train running then that is who they are going to vote for. The Democrats are well aware of this and so they cater to that mindset under the guise of "helping the less fortunate get on their feet". Make no mistake, the Democrats have no interest in helping you improve yourself or your status in life if you are on government subsistence because they know if they do they lose voters. The whole system is designed to keep the poor poor and voting democrat and there are plenty out there who are not only well aware of it but they frankly don't care. They're content to get their handouts even if it means they live in a crap hole of a neighborhood with thugs for neighbors. Who cares, smoke some more crack and let the day drift away until the next deposit gets made on your EBT car.


Sooner or later though, that gravy train quits coming. Sooner or later you gotta pay the check all by yourself.
 
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MolonLabe said:
No there's no ethical evaluation at all. If illegals were coming into this country and voting Republican than Obama and the Democrat gang would be rounding them up by the bus load and deporting them or locking them up no questions asked.

What you have to understand is that long ago the Democrat party realized that there is a large percentage of the population that are perfectly content with letting someone else give them free money for doing nothing. These are people that have no desire to strive for or achieve anything in life. They have no work ethic or motivation of any kind. This of course has nothing to do with race or country of origin. It has do with the fact that at least half of the people on this planet or worthless crap that have no desire to achieve anything or work for anything. To that end, they are perfectly okay with the government sending them a small check every few weeks just for sitting at the house and watching TV all day. The democrats figured out that if you give these people a check every month they become life long voters and to ensure their loyalty you convince them that the other party (Republicans) want to take away all their free government hand outs. Presto, instant democrat voter. So when they hear a Republican politician talking about working hard and saving money and working all day to support your family it turns them right off because they hate the very idea of it. What they want is to sit around the house like the lazy crap that they are and do nothing and if they think the Democrat party is the party that is going to keep the gravy train running then that is who they are going to vote for. The Democrats are well aware of this and so they cater to that mindset under the guise of "helping the less fortunate get on their feet". Make no mistake, the Democrats have no interest in helping you improve yourself or your status in life if you are on government subsistence because they know if they do they lose voters. The whole system is designed to keep the poor poor and voting democrat and there are plenty out there who are not only well aware of it but they frankly don't care. They're content to get their handouts even if it means they live in a crap hole of a neighborhood with thugs for neighbors. Who cares, smoke some more crack and let the day drift away until the next deposit gets made on your EBT car.


Sooner or later though, that gravy train quits coming. Sooner or later you gotta pay the check all by yourself.
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Well said. And these parasites are to the detriment of this nation.
 
US Conservative said:
Well said. And these parasites are to the detriment of this nation.
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Thanks US. You know frankly I don't understand why any self respecting Mexican would ever vote for a Democrat. It was Barack Obama and the Democrat party that ensured that firearms purchased in America would be smuggled across the border with the full knowledge that those firearms would be used in Mexico to kill other Mexicans. We call it the Fast and Furious scandal but what it really was was a back door attempt by the Democrats to further vilify firearms. The idea was that those weapons would end up being used in crimes in Mexico and the Democrats would then respond by saying "See, see how it easy it is for guns from the US to get into Mexico. This is why we need stricter gun control." Only the problem was that their plan got blown right out of the water when it was revealed that they intentionally let those firearms get across the border when efforts were made to stop the shipments and they would have been stopped if not for the Fast and Furious program that mandated they be allowed to slip across. So long story short, the Obama administration and the Democrat party are complicit in the death of Mexican nationals in order to make a gun control political point in America. Why would you vote for a party that has done that to you? I ask you this as someone who is half Mexican.
 
MolonLabe said:
Thanks US. You know frankly I don't understand why any self respecting Mexican would ever vote for a Democrat. It was Barack Obama and the Democrat party that ensured that firearms purchased in America would be smuggled across the border with the full knowledge that those firearms would be used in Mexico to kill other Mexicans. We call it the Fast and Furious scandal but what it really was was a back door attempt by the Democrats to further vilify firearms. The idea was that those weapons would end up being used in crimes in Mexico and the Democrats would then respond by saying "See, see how it easy it is for guns from the US to get into Mexico. This is why we need stricter gun control." Only the problem was that their plan got blown right out of the water when it was revealed that they intentionally let those firearms get across the border when efforts were made to stop the shipments and they would have been stopped if not for the Fast and Furious program that mandated they be allowed to slip across. So long story short, the Obama administration and the Democrat party are complicit in the death of Mexican nationals in order to make a gun control political point in America. Why would you vote for a party that has done that to you? I ask you this as someone who is half Mexican.
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You do realize the ATF gunwalking operations began in 2006, right?
 
Fearandloathing said:
Maybe you can help me out here, but I live in a country where illegals get kicked the **** out tres rapide.

If it is a myth, then why do Democratic governments, especially California go out of their way to accommodate illegal aliens? We hear today that the president of the Democratic party is outraged at a suggestion that illegal aliens should be illegal. She says they are the economic backbone of America.

So we know in part it is for cheep labor so the billion dollar movie stars can afford to get their lawns mowed, but that many? If the Democratic party doesn't benefit, then why do they do it? And don't even suggest there is any ethical evaluation there, we're talking about a party that made a hero out of a serial sex abuser.
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It's really a mystery why you have tunnel vision on this and don't see or won't acknowledge that the Chamber of Commerce boys and employers of all kinds are the people actually driving this train, and they have a lot of friends in the GOP who have simply done their bidding on this. Democrats, too, obviously, I'm just amazed you don't see the rare bipartisanship over decades on this issue.
 
Kobie said:
You do realize the ATF gunwalking operations began in 2006, right?
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Yeah, heard it before. The problem with that claim is that operation Wide Receiver was not nearly the same thing as Operation Fast and Furious. The Wide Receiver gun walking program during the Bush years was conducted with the cooperation of Mexican Authorities and every firearm that went across the border under that program ended up in the hands of Mexican Authorities. By contrast, almost no effort was made to track the firearms that were walked across under Fast and Furious because the intent from the beginning was for those weapons to end up in the hands of criminals and low and behold that is precisely what happened.
 
MolonLabe said:
No there's no ethical evaluation at all. If illegals were coming into this country and voting Republican than Obama and the Democrat gang would be rounding them up by the bus load and deporting them or locking them up no questions asked.
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Just curious, if it's all democrats, where were the GOP buses deporting these people when the GOP had the Congress and WH?

Besides, Obama IS deporting them as fast as the courts can process them, with a backlog of several hundred thousand, and the net population is flat or down since January 2009. There are fewer illegals coming over than at any time in decades and the right wing pretend that the facts are exactly opposite - that Obama has allowed it to grow faster than at any time in decades. Up is down.
 
JasperL said:
Just curious, if it's all democrats, where were the GOP buses deporting these people when the GOP had the Congress and WH?

Besides, Obama IS deporting them as fast as the courts can process them, with a backlog of several hundred thousand, and the net population is flat or down since January 2009. There are fewer illegals coming over than at any time in decades and the right wing pretend that the facts are exactly opposite - that Obama has allowed it to grow faster than at any time in decades. Up is down.
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Don't look to me to defend the GOP on this issue. As far as I'm concerned they are equally as complicit.
 
MolonLabe said:
Yeah, heard it before.
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Because it's an inconvenient fact for YOU in your hackish attempt to do the usual "BLAME OBAMA AND THE DEMOCRAT PARTY FOR EVERYTHING."

Provide some sort of evidence that "the intent from the beginning was for those weapons to end up in the hands of criminals." And go.
 
Kobie said:
Because it's an inconvenient fact for YOU in your hackish attempt to do the usual "BLAME OBAMA AND THE DEMOCRAT PARTY FOR EVERYTHING."

Provide some sort of evidence that "the intent from the beginning was for those weapons to end up in the hands of criminals." And go.
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Provide some sort evidence that it wasn't. I have the evidence of dead Mexican nationals and this.

"Our insatiable demand for illegal drugs fuels the drug trade. Our inability to prevent weapons from being illegally smuggled across the border to arm these criminals causes the death of police officers, soldiers and civilians," -- Hillary Clinton -- April 2009

Low and behold, it wasn't but about a year later that we found out the truth about our "inability" to prevent those weapons from getting across the border didn't we? You believe whatever you want man. I know what the truth is and in your heart so do you. It's as obvious as can be.
 
Kobie said:
Ah, demanding someone prove a negative. Yet another dishonest tactic.
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Ah, skipping over the rest of the post to press your liberal point of view. Typical liberal tactic.


You can't change reality no matter what sort of nonsense you post here. The Obama Administration ensured those weapons were smuggled across the border. They ensured those weapons would end up in the hands of criminals. While Hillary was here in the US talking about our supposed inability to stop the smuggling of weapons the truth of the matter was that it was our own government that was ensuring the weapons did get across the border despite the efforts of rank and file law enforcement to stop it. You can't change that no matter what you say. It is reality so deal with it.


Or you could run off to the basement and talk s**t about me like you and your liberal buddy Reinoe always do after getting proven wrong and leaving with your tail tucked between your legs. As if I didn't know about it.
 
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MolonLabe said:
Don't look to me to defend the GOP on this issue. As far as I'm concerned they are equally as complicit.
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OK, but you just blamed only the democrats.... Oversight I guess.
 
MolonLabe said:
Thanks US. You know frankly I don't understand why any self respecting Mexican would ever vote for a Democrat. It was Barack Obama and the Democrat party that ensured that firearms purchased in America would be smuggled across the border with the full knowledge that those firearms would be used in Mexico to kill other Mexicans. We call it the Fast and Furious scandal but what it really was was a back door attempt by the Democrats to further vilify firearms. The idea was that those weapons would end up being used in crimes in Mexico and the Democrats would then respond by saying "See, see how it easy it is for guns from the US to get into Mexico. This is why we need stricter gun control." Only the problem was that their plan got blown right out of the water when it was revealed that they intentionally let those firearms get across the border when efforts were made to stop the shipments and they would have been stopped if not for the Fast and Furious program that mandated they be allowed to slip across. So long story short, the Obama administration and the Democrat party are complicit in the death of Mexican nationals in order to make a gun control political point in America. Why would you vote for a party that has done that to you? I ask you this as someone who is half Mexican.
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I wish more people knew about this. Hundreds of guns, hundreds of dead Mexicans and a dead BP agent. The number has no doubt risen-and all for Obama's politics. Law enforcement knew it was a bad idea, and they knew it would turn dangerous. Every tragedy, Obama has turned into an opportunity do impede the rights of honest Americans. And in particular, democrats are kept ignorant and have little recollection, so these events can be covered up.

I haven't forgotten. Real Americans haven't.
 
Kobie said:
You do realize the ATF gunwalking operations began in 2006, right?
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Classic lefty deflection. The govt decided it was too dangerous and stopped the program. Nobody was killed.

Then Chump Obama gets in and his boy Holder dove in balls deep.

Hundreds died.
 
JasperL said:
It's really a mystery why you have tunnel vision on this and don't see or won't acknowledge that the Chamber of Commerce boys and employers of all kinds are the people actually driving this train, and they have a lot of friends in the GOP who have simply done their bidding on this. Democrats, too, obviously, I'm just amazed you don't see the rare bipartisanship over decades on this issue.
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Own it, its dems. At all levels of govt, supported by people who vote democrat.
 
JasperL said:
Just curious, if it's all democrats, where were the GOP buses deporting these people when the GOP had the Congress and WH?

Besides, Obama IS deporting them as fast as the courts can process them, with a backlog of several hundred thousand, and the net population is flat or down since January 2009. There are fewer illegals coming over than at any time in decades and the right wing pretend that the facts are exactly opposite - that Obama has allowed it to grow faster than at any time in decades. Up is down.
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Bush was soft on illegals, so was McCain and Romney. Yeb! is even more so. And its why Trump and Cruz are at the front of the pack now-because GOP establishment wasn't representing its constituents. They are about to get fired.
 
Kobie said:
Because it's an inconvenient fact for YOU in your hackish attempt to do the usual "BLAME OBAMA AND THE DEMOCRAT PARTY FOR EVERYTHING."

Provide some sort of evidence that "the intent from the beginning was for those weapons to end up in the hands of criminals." And go.
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I dont have an issue with fighting crime. That's a legitimate and necessary function of govt.

I have a problem with doing it for politics, when ignoring agents, and when it causes the deaths of hundreds.

That happened under Obama. Not even a lefty can spin it. Wont stop them from trying though.
 
MolonLabe said:
Provide some sort evidence that it wasn't. I have the evidence of dead Mexican nationals and this.

"Our insatiable demand for illegal drugs fuels the drug trade. Our inability to prevent weapons from being illegally smuggled across the border to arm these criminals causes the death of police officers, soldiers and civilians," -- Hillary Clinton -- April 2009

Low and behold, it wasn't but about a year later that we found out the truth about our "inability" to prevent those weapons from getting across the border didn't we? You believe whatever you want man. I know what the truth is and in your heart so do you. It's as obvious as can be.
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Oh Kobie knows. When pushed on these matters most lefties will admit it.

The thing is many dont care. Just like they dont care about the victims of the war on poverty.
 
US Conservative said:
Bush was soft on illegals, so was McCain and Romney. Yeb! is even more so. And its why Trump and Cruz are at the front of the pack now-because GOP establishment wasn't representing its constituents. They are about to get fired.
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Own it, its dems. At all levels of govt, supported by people who vote democrat.
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You're hilarious.

1) Yes, obviously Reagan (amnesty!!!), Bush I and Bush II were soft on illegals, so was the GOP Congress from Gingrich through the Bush years.
2) It's STILL all the fault of those darned evil democrats!

Employers who hired millions of illegals, kept their wage costs down, benefits costs down, put a lid on manual labor jobs - hey, we can forget them. Sure, both parties serve their interests, but never mind....
 
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