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I dont know the extent to which we are involved beyond the obvious intel sharing and weapons supplies. What we arent involved in is the actual fighting. If you want to argue that Russia and Iran are our enemies, then we are backing proxies in Ukraine and Israel to fight them. Is this a bad thing? I dont think so. The argument for helping Ukraine is that the war is weakening Russia. Is the same not true for Iran? I was a bit apprehensive when this war with Iran began, but now that Israel has the clear upper hand, I see no reason to 'de-escalate.' At least not right now
If I give you a stick in your battle with your neighbor, does your neighbor have a legit beef with me?
Why? Be the first lib to make an actual argument.
Yes. But Iran has had a beef with us for almost 50 years. And us with them. And again, we have handed Ukraine a stick to beat Russia with, why are you not worried about Russia having a beef with us?
Well that's the problem. The administration was supposedly in talks then everything went sideways when Israel decided to take its shot.
Do you understand the nature of their beef with us?
I thought we were not going to continue supporting Ukraine militarily. Has this changed?
Ok. Maybe Iran should have worked a little harder at getting a deal done. Now, Iran will have to spend billions rebuilding rather than funding terrorists. That strikes me as a good thing.
We are still supporting them. But the question here is should we be supporting de-escalation or letting Israel finish the job?
I am on topic. Plus I am responding to your posts. So if we are going off topic, it is you who are leading us there.
There were talks going on, and this administration's position was centered around many of the same conditions that existed under the JCPOA but with more inspection strings attached. Then Trump changed his mind on the subject of having nuclear energy and took it off the table so talks stalled.
It's an odd position to take thinking striking up more animus through violence is going to solve this situation, and Israel building good will in the region isn't going to be helped much by this either.
But with threats to cut it off.
First we should start with what "the job" is. How are you defining it?
I could be wrong, but I think Israel actually pays for most of its military hardware. Since 1948, the US has given Israel $148 billion is aid. About the same amount we have given Ukraine since 2022. So I am not sure that this attack on Iran is really costing us all that much. Plus the main goal here is to destroy Irans ability to get nukes and to fund the terrorist organizations that are killing Israeli civilians. Iran has been at war with Israel for decades. Israel just took the war to them. I say lets see how it plays out.
Much of the Arab world are not fans of Iran any more than we or the Israelis are. As for Trump, he thinks he can strike a deal with anyone. Maybe he thought he could get Iran to agree on something or maybe he was stalling to get Israel more time to prepare. Who know? And who cares at this point. A significantly weakened Iran means they have less ability to support terrorists and assist Russia in its war with Ukraine. And we now know that a nuclear armed Iran is not going to happen anytime soon. These are all good things and with any luck, that evil regime may actually collapse. Lets give it a few more days and see what happens.
Is this the presser?
In the lead-up to the Iraq War, the George W. Bush administration, along with the British government, asserted that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction (WMDs) and posed an imminent threat.
Like they gave to Josh Allen...
It's not that simple, and some nations do maintain ties and relations. What most of the Arab world seems to be leaning into
The lack of a real game plan here is the concerning part, especially since you have Israel that's keen on eliminating the regime altogether and whatever it is Trump thinks he can get out of this. What's important to realize is Iran has not been totally decimated, so it's a bit optimistic to think they're done. What's more important is to see what's next, because toppling the regime is likely a bad idea since who replaces is it is anyone's guess, and our track record toppling regimes in Iran is pretty bad.
Because of "Bibi's" actions,
