From the FEC--the acceptable error rate

[armycowboy]

No, just pushing back, showing the truth, and not letting the left with their allies in the media run this country anymore.....enough of the socialist, progressive, liberal bull short.....move to a different country and spread the poison.

I'm sure you're having quite the effect, banging on your keyboard on an internet forum.

And no thanks, I think I'll stay here. Interested to see what the next 4 years bring.

 

[jnug]

"For testing purposes, the acceptable error rate is defined using two parameters: the desired error rate to be achieved, and the maximum error rate that should be accepted by the test process. For each processing function indicated above, the system shall achieve a target error rate of no more than one in 10,000,000 ballot positions, with a maximum acceptable error rate in the test process of one in 500,000 ballot positions. "

https://www.eac.gov/sites/default/files/eac_assets/1/28/Voting_System_Standards_Volume_I.pdf

It's a huge site.....here is the page # where it can be found, to see yourself.....3.2.1 Accuracy requirements, pg 3-51.


Here, they state the importance in having such a low error rate, but a high accuracy count:

"Required accuracy is defined in terms of an error rate that for testing purposes represents the maximum number of errors allowed while processing a specified volume of data. This rate is set at a sufficiently stringent level such that the likelihood of voting system errors affecting the outcome of an election is exceptionally remote even in the closest of elections."

As you can see, the maximum acceptable error rate is one in 500,000 ballot positions.....that is NOT what was found with Dominion in both Michigan and Nevada, but an error rate of 68% to 70% error rate. My question is, just what kind of voting machine is this?

It's hard for me to understand why each and every Dominion machine has not been taken and audited to be sure, for the sake of this Presidential election. It's paramount for voter security and to keep and preserve the great freedom we have in this country, not to be taken lightly.

Where is the FEC.....do they even exist anymore? With such a close election can we now grasp and understand why it's so important for voting machines to have such high standards for accuracy. Yet, it was not, no where even close, not even in the same universe.....acceptable is way less than 1%, established by the FEC.....Dominion is 68% to 70%....pretty bad.

Close vote??? Not close. This was a landslide in the context of 21st century voting. Trump got creamed.

 

[Irwin Corey]

Thanks to the democrats it is not going to be that easy, for they just can't play fair, now can they.

It's not "democrats" suppressing votes, gerrymandering, purging registration roles at the last minute,****ing with the USPS and bring one crazy suit after another trying to vacte legally cast votes, now is it.

I think you got your parties mixed up. And yes it is going to be that easy, come Jan 20th Joe Biden will be President; your President.

 

[Jredbaron96]

Has a judge dismissed the findings of Dominion?

What findings of Dominion? The Audit that showed there was no fraud?

 

[redbeer]

Anybody hear about the Dominion server found in Frankfort, Germany with 2020 election data?.....just heard about it, but something about an army raid, it was seized and is now being investigated.....hmm.

 

[redbeer]

What findings of Dominion? The Audit that showed there was no fraud?

Lol, wow you got it all wrong.....the audit found substantial findings not good for the left, but the left and msm came out with a bs excuse claiming it's debunked, but that is false.

 

[Visbek]

Cracks me up, a clerk accidentally did not update the software, so prior to this update a 68% error rate was okay.

Hello? McFly? The update was required because of some last-minute changes in local elections. It wasn't a service pack, it wasn't a hotfix, it wasn't a massive software update, it wasn't applied to other Dominion machines.

When the update was applied, the digital votes were tabulated correctly, and matched the paper ballots. If the error hadn't been noticed earlier, it would have been caught in the routine audit. And applying the fix changed the votes from 98% Biden to 61% Trump.

I am sure Dominion is so reputable to NEVER have a 68% error rate....

You should be, because they are.

For f***'s sake, man. Use your head. If Dominion machines had a 68% error rate, then California would have voted for Trump, and Florida would have been a landslide for Biden.

It not only occurred in Michigan, but the same in Nevada....

sigh

It actually took a few minutes to track down the source of this "claim." Guess what? Not only is it wrong, it has NOTHING to do with Dominion.

Clark County has a review process for MAIL-IN votes. The Las Vegas Review-Journal reported the following:

All mail ballots in Clark County were counted first by running them through a digital scanner. If the scanner cannot read the ballot or determine the voter’s intent, the ballot is sent to an adjudication or duplication team, both of which are overseen by a bipartisan election board. County elections officials have said about 70 percent of ballots are sent to be reviewed by elections officials.

How are Nevada ballots counted and verified?

Here is a breakdown of the ballot counting and verification process, according to information provided by the Nevada Secretary of State’s office.

www.reviewjournal.com

Then, an anonymous right-wing Twidiot incorrectly assumed this meant Dominion voting machines (which... again... it doesn't) and, since truth doesn't matter anymore, just ran with it. And here you are, parroting blatant misinformation.

 

[armycowboy]

Anybody hear about the Dominion server found in Frankfort, Germany with 2020 election data?.....just heard about it, but something about an army raid, it was seized and is now being investigated.....hmm.

That story has been debunked by the Army.

Fact check: No soldiers died in nonexistent raid to seize election servers in Germany

amp-usatoday-com.cdn.ampproject.org

 

[Visbek]

Anybody hear about the Dominion server found in Frankfort, Germany with 2020 election data?.....just heard about it, but something about an army raid, it was seized and is now being investigated.....hmm.

Good grief. Is there anything you won't believe?

Oh, wait, I know. You won't believe the truth.

 

[BlueTex]

From the left's favorite go to site, "FactCheck.org":

"The matter came down to the fact that the county clerk “accidentally did not update the software used to collect voting machine data,” the Michigan Department of State, which oversees the state’s elections, said in a Nov. 6 statement. "


Cracks me up, a clerk accidentally did not update the software, so prior to this update a 68% error rate was okay. I am sure Dominion is so reputable to NEVER have a 68% error rate, prior to the update or after the update.....save me the bs.

It not only occurred in Michigan, but the same in Nevada....is your excuse a clerk did not update the software there, too? The left got caught, came out with a bs excuse, had their operatives in the media run with it, stating it over and over in the news ad nauseum, till poof, the lemmings believe it......

Who should investigate this "travesty"? The EAC or the FEC?

 

[trouble13]

what gets me about this whole thing is it should not be so complicated to count everyones votes.

Theres a very simple way to do this using electronic machines.

punch in your choices and the machines prints out a hard copy of them that you proof read and then drop in a ballot box thats paired to the machine.

when the polls close, the machine should be able to give an exact count of votes cast on it. Then a hand recount of the paper ballots should be done to make sure that the vote count matches.

if there is any discrepancy, because each machine has its own ballot box paired to it, it should easy to identify where the problem is.

Can anyone tell me what is hard about doing some like that so everyone knows the count is correct and on election night we should have the results with hours of a poll closing.

 

[Irwin Corey]

what gets me about this whole thing is it should not be so complicated to count everyones votes.

Theres a very simple way to do this using electronic machines.

punch in your choices and the machines prints out a hard copy of them that you proof read and then drop in a ballot box thats paired to the machine.

when the polls close, the machine should be able to give an exact count of votes cast on it. Then a hand recount of the paper ballots should be done to make sure that the vote count matches.

if there is any discrepancy, because each machine has its own ballot box paired to it, it should easy to identify where the problem is.

Can anyone tell me what is hard about doing some like that so everyone knows the count is correct and on election night we should have the results with hours of a poll closing.

We do mail in, almost exclusively, here in Colorado, without any problems. It's not that difficult. Of course there are drop boxes at every county building and library, easy peazy.

 

[Visbek]

punch in your choices and the machines prints out a hard copy of them that you proof read and then drop in a ballot box thats paired to the machine.

when the polls close, the machine should be able to give an exact count of votes cast on it. Then a hand recount of the paper ballots should be done to make sure that the vote count matches.

Dude.

Most of the voting machines -- including ALL of the Dominion machines that cause Trumpettes to freak out -- ALREADY PRINT A PAPER BALLOT. Right there, at the polling station.

Yes, there are some machines that don't print a paper ballot. However, paper ballots were automatically generated, and yes paired with specific machines and specific digital ballots, and are routinely audited, in Michigan, Georgia and Nevada.

 

[redbeer]

Hello? McFly? The update was required because of some last-minute changes in local elections. It wasn't a service pack, it wasn't a hotfix, it wasn't a massive software update, it wasn't applied to other Dominion machines.

When the update was applied, the digital votes were tabulated correctly, and matched the paper ballots. If the error hadn't been noticed earlier, it would have been caught in the routine audit. And applying the fix changed the votes from 98% Biden to 61% Trump.

Oh, okay, that explains it....lol, not.

You should be, because they are.

For f***'s sake, man. Use your head. If Dominion machines had a 68% error rate, then California would have voted for Trump, and Florida would have been a landslide for Biden.

Huh, we're talking about the machines in Michigan, which were audited, not California's or Florida's. Now it's last minute changes in local elections, huh?....that's your excuse and you're sticking with it.

sigh

It actually took a few minutes to track down the source of this "claim." Guess what? Not only is it wrong, it has NOTHING to do with Dominion.

Clark County has a review process for MAIL-IN votes. The Las Vegas Review-Journal reported the following:

All mail ballots in Clark County were counted first by running them through a digital scanner. If the scanner cannot read the ballot or determine the voter’s intent, the ballot is sent to an adjudication or duplication team, both of which are overseen by a bipartisan election board. County elections officials have said about 70 percent of ballots are sent to be reviewed by elections officials.

How are Nevada ballots counted and verified?

Here is a breakdown of the ballot counting and verification process, according to information provided by the Nevada Secretary of State’s office.

www.reviewjournal.com

Then, an anonymous right-wing Twidiot incorrectly assumed this meant Dominion voting machines (which... again... it doesn't) and, since truth doesn't matter anymore, just ran with it. And here you are, parroting blatant misinformation.

Well, well....we now have Dominion machines in Michigan with a 65% or whatever error rate and now a 70% rate of ballots being kicked out by scanners to determine a voters intent.....that high, really?.....what kind of machines are these, anyways? Useless and worthless, if you ask me.

 

[redbeer]

That story has been debunked by the Army.

Fact check: No soldiers died in nonexistent raid to seize election servers in Germany

amp-usatoday-com.cdn.ampproject.org

Just heard about it, haven't had time to look into it.....seemed kind of strange not to be hearing about it, since it was over a month ago....tks.

 

[Visbek]

Oh, okay, that explains it....[/quiote]
Yes, actually it does. It also explains why the paper ballots -- which are printed out right at the station -- were correct.

Huh, we're talking about the machines in Michigan, which were audited, not California's or Florida's. Now it's last minute changes in local elections, huh?....that's your excuse and you're sticking with it.

It's not "my" anything. It's what happened. It also explains why this didn't happen to thousands of other Dominion machines.

Well, well....we now have Dominion machines in Michigan with a 65% or whatever error rate and now a 70% rate of ballots being kicked out by scanners to determine a voters intent.....that high, really?

What is wrong with you?

You really should just admit that the easily detected and easily fixed error in ONE Michigan county only happened in ONE county -- and was fixed before the votes were added to any tally.

You should also acknowledge how terrible your sourcing is. Seriously.

By the way, it's pretty clear you didn't read the article I linked, as they also point out:

All voting equipment used in the state, including mail ballot scanners, has to meet or exceed the federal voting system standards. It also must be independently tested to determine it functions correctly. Independent testing is performed by the Nevada Gaming Control Board.

It's clear at this point that your beliefs are not based on fact. It's just motivated reasoning, and an utter refusal on your part just to acknowledge that you'r wrong. How sad.

 

[Chomsky]

You've proven that you don't care about the truth. Dominion is going to sue the pants off those who make the absurd claims you foolishly believe.

They did a hand recount in Georgia. No machines. Trump lost. Get over it.

Even Newsmax had to retract their false claims about Dominion.

Yep. You can't even recognize the Newsmax website. All the nonsense is gone. It's almost looking more like a legit newsite, believe it or not.

 

[armycowboy]

Yep. You can't even recognize the Newsmax website. All the nonsense is gone. It's almost looking more like a legit newsite, believe it or not.

Evidently they can't afford to be sued, unlike some of the higher profile news organizations.

 

[Fledermaus]

From the left's favorite go to site, "FactCheck.org":

"The matter came down to the fact that the county clerk “accidentally did not update the software used to collect voting machine data,” the Michigan Department of State, which oversees the state’s elections, said in a Nov. 6 statement. "


Cracks me up, a clerk accidentally did not update the software, so prior to this update a 68% error rate was okay. I am sure Dominion is so reputable to NEVER have a 68% error rate, prior to the update or after the update.....save me the bs.

It not only occurred in Michigan, but the same in Nevada....is your excuse a clerk did not update the software there, too? The left got caught, came out with a bs excuse, had their operatives in the media run with it, stating it over and over in the news ad nauseum, till poof, the lemmings believe it......

Citation for the 68% error rate?

 

[trouble13]

Dude.

Most of the voting machines -- including ALL of the Dominion machines that cause Trumpettes to freak out -- ALREADY PRINT A PAPER BALLOT. Right there, at the polling station.

Yes, there are some machines that don't print a paper ballot. However, paper ballots were automatically generated, and yes paired with specific machines and specific digital ballots, and are routinely audited, in Michigan, Georgia and Nevada.

I'm good with that as long as the voters gets the chance to check the paper ballot, I see no problem

 

[Jredbaron96]

Lol, wow you got it all wrong.....the audit found substantial findings not good for the left, but the left and msm came out with a bs excuse claiming it's debunked, but that is false.

The actual hand count audit found no significant error rate: https://www.detroitnews.com/story/n...ty-audit-shows-12-vote-gain-trump/3938988001/

 

[Sand Castle]

"From the FEC--the acceptable error rate"

The question is: Is this man "Russel Ramsland jr" qualified to analize voting machines and software?

Or did Russel Ramsland jr, a known political hack, compose a fraudulent report, under the guise of being a cybersecurity expert?

https://www.fec.gov/files/legal/murs/6951/18044443450.pdf

 

[Deuce]

Where, all I've seen is blah, blah, blah.....nothing in the range of being debunked, except the MSM stating that over and over, till the lemmings believe it.




Can you show me an audit of a Dominion voting machine used in the election which showed an error rate of 1 in 500,000?




Out of curiosity, just want to know what is going on with the FEC, when voting machines are spewing out an error rate of 68%, when it's way over their standards.....I have this right. For the most part, I can agree with you, but it is in the swing states in just a few democratic controlled counties, wherein the election was anything but fair. Smart enough to know this is all it takes to sway and alter an election across the country.....Where is the FEC?

There is not a 68% error rate in those machines counting votes, you are lying.