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Fred Phelps Dead


Crazy like a fox, given the money he made off this.
 
Look at the blatant liberal media bias in this report on his death. There is no mention of his being a longtime Democratic politician and there is no mention of his being a crusading champion of civil rights who took on big government and big employers who were discriminating against blacks and finally there in no mention of his being honored for his civil rights work by the NAACP.

Nothing must get in the way of the leftist narrative. That's modern journalism. "Gay all the time. Everything has to be about gays. Gays trump blacks in the liberal universe."
 

Well, in America generally, not just the media, it's all about what have you done for me lately. Any good work he did in the 60's has been washed out by the creation of the Westboro Baptist Church, which hates gays about the same as the KKK hated the blacks he fought for. Moreover, if you look into his history, you see that as far back as 1977 he was not a good person:

 
Just because someone is loved by someone doesn't mean they have fundamental value to anyone beyond their friends and family. That's what I was questioning. It is an assertion, not something I suspect he can demonstrate, he just wishes it was true.

Isn't value to one enough?

All I'm sayng is I think we can recognize that his death likely hurts someone. And maybe someone we'd also feel sorry for.
 
Isn't value to one enough?

All I'm sayng is I think we can recognize that his death likely hurts someone. And maybe someone we'd also feel sorry for.

Again, so what? Individual humans are meaningless in the scheme of things and even at larger scales, we don't mean a damn thing to the universe. We're only important to ourselves. If the whole species went away tomorrow, whatever other intelligent life there may be in the universe not only wouldn't know we'd vanished, they wouldn't care. We might be an archaeological curiosity, nothing more.
 
Well, in America generally, not just the media, it's all about what have you done for me lately.

Your confusing news reporting with obituary writing. When someone dies then the reporting focuses on their whole lives, they report the details of birth, of early childhood, marriages, and events right up to the present.

When people are live and doing newsworthy things, then news reporting focuses on the newsworthy events and they don't have to give you a synopsis of the person's life. This model doesn't work for obituaries.
 
Perhaps you are just a bit sensitive?
"Gay all the time. Everything has to be about gays. Gays trump blacks in the liberal universe."

:yt
 

It's obvious why people disliked him, but if his actions were illegal he would have been in jail.

Phelps achieved his goal, he and 8 or 10 people were able to get millions of people to react to him. People gave Phelps his power by not ignoring him.
 
It's obvious why people disliked him, but if his actions were illegal he would have been in jail.

Phelps achieved his goal, he and 8 or 10 people were able to get millions of people to react to him. People gave Phelps his power by not ignoring him.

The huge irony in this discussion is that we have an audience on a discussion board which has developed a high sensitivity to sniffing out trolls and dismissing them as trolls and this audience has bought Phelps' trolling hook, line and sinker.

Phelps is history's greatest troll.
 

In a free society you will always have situations where we don't like what people say. But to limit free speech is far worse to society than the nut jobs and their message. If we give the government the power to limit free speech, then we will not be a nation of liberty.
 
I won't shed any tears for Mr Phelps but I'm sure that his family will miss him.

at least the ones who did effect his excomunication
 

I think it's important to remember. :shrug::shrug::shrug:
 

I'm not sure I agree with that. You're free to speak. That I'd defend. You're not free to torture grieving loved ones at a funeral. Screaming those things are those burying their loved one is torture, is cruel and is not something I would call free speech.
 

seriously this could be the most childish line of thinking I have read on here.
 
seriously this could be the most childish line of thinking I have read on here.

- "That big round thing up in the night sky, that's not a star that's the moon."

-"Seriously this could be the most childish line of thinking I have read on here."

Wicked. rebuttal dude. Saying that something is childish apparently makes it so. No need to make a case, just state the conclusion.
 




That's your opinion, which you are entitled to and I completely disagree with .
 
By using the name Cheney who happens to be part of the right wing, I don't know how else you could take that to mean anything but political.





Cheney is not just evil politically, he's evil all of the way around, he is a thoroughly evil critter.
 
It's obvious why people disliked him, but if his actions were illegal he would have been in jail.

Phelps achieved his goal, he and 8 or 10 people were able to get millions of people to react to him. People gave Phelps his power by not ignoring him.
He was very careful to stay juuuuuust inside the law.

They were/are repugnant, but they aren't dumb.
 
Cheney is not just evil politically, he's evil all of the way around, he is a thoroughly evil critter.

I used to think that of him and Bush, but after hearing their post administration interviews, they didn't come across as the sadistic men I thought.

I don't agree with Cheney's approach to terrorism at all but he didn't over zealously prosecute them out of evil intentions, as much as excessive patriotism and ignorance.
 
Cheney is not just evil politically, he's evil all of the way around, he is a thoroughly evil critter.

Yeah, that's not demonization.
 
I just hope before he died he was convicted and was able to repent of his sin. Who knows, he may be in the same hell and many of the people he persecuted.
 
I think it's important to remember. :shrug::shrug::shrug:

To remember what? That we're important to ourselves? That we have enlightened self-interest? Or that objectively, we mean exactly jack squat, we're a blip on the radar, not just in the universe, but on our planet. The dinosaurs were around longer than we will be. I'm being realistic. Stop being emotional.
 

To ourselves? Where did you get that? You have people who love you, as do I and most people. You are important to them. Not yourself. Them. They will grieve. Taking note of them is important.
 
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