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Fred Phelps comes to Joplin...sort of

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“Members of a Westboro Baptist Church scheduled a criticism in Joplin, Mo., Sunday. One objector arrived around 12:15 p.m. and was accosted by opposite protestors. Police escorted a Westboro member to reserve and used rip gas to control a crowd”

Another news from a same ABC affiliate:

“It all started in a parking lot opposite from Missouri Southern State University, where today’s commemorative took place.

According to witnesses, a throng of people swarmed a male after he showed what they called a horrible sign.

Police ran into a throng melancholy to use rip gas if it got out of control.

Police afterwards incarcerated a male and escorted him divided from a scene.

NationalMCnetwork.com-Beta | Blog | <b>Bikers</b>, Truckers and Patriots Block Westboro at Joplin | KANSAS <b>...</b>


A quick background. I was raised In Joplin. My mother and sister still live there (they are safe and unharmed). My sister told me on the phone a couple of days ago that there was a rumor that the Phelps crew was planning to come to Joplin to exploit the dead. Gotta confess, the thought of it brought a wry smile to my lips. This was not a good calculation by the reverend phelps.

Appears that a large number of bikers and semi trucks blocked them in at the Flying J Truck Stop on the southern edge of Joplin. One of the germs managed to get around the blockade and managed to momentarily stage a protest in town. My understanding is that he is now residing at the local hospital. Personal suspicion is that if the whole Phelps crew had managed to stage a protest they would all be residing at a hospital (or possibly a place even a little quieter.

The residents of Joplin aren't a group that one really wants to confront on a Good Day. Pulling the Phelps kind of crap after the disaster they (Joplin) just endured is sort of dancing with suicide.


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“Members of a Westboro Baptist Church scheduled a criticism in Joplin, Mo., Sunday. One objector arrived around 12:15 p.m. and was accosted by opposite protestors. Police escorted a Westboro member to reserve and used rip gas to control a crowd”

Another news from a same ABC affiliate:

“It all started in a parking lot opposite from Missouri Southern State University, where today’s commemorative took place.

According to witnesses, a throng of people swarmed a male after he showed what they called a horrible sign.

Police ran into a throng melancholy to use rip gas if it got out of control.

Police afterwards incarcerated a male and escorted him divided from a scene.

NationalMCnetwork.com-Beta | Blog | <b>Bikers</b>, Truckers and Patriots Block Westboro at Joplin | KANSAS <b>...</b>


A quick background. I was raised In Joplin. My mother and sister still live there (they are safe and unharmed). My sister told me on the phone a couple of days ago that there was a rumor that the Phelps crew was planning to come to Joplin to exploit the dead. Gotta confess, the thought of it brought a wry smile to my lips. This was not a good calculation by the reverend phelps.

Appears that a large number of bikers and semi trucks blocked them in at the Flying J Truck Stop on the southern edge of Joplin. One of the germs managed to get around the blockade and managed to momentarily stage a protest in town. My understanding is that he is now residing at the local hospital. Personal suspicion is that if the whole Phelps crew had managed to stage a protest they would all be residing at a hospital (or possibly a place even a little quieter.

The residents of Joplin aren't a group that one really wants to confront on a Good Day. Pulling the Phelps kind of crap after the disaster they (Joplin) just endured is sort of dancing with suicide.


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I think his days of running roughshod over Americans are over.
 
This is gonna sound awful but I wish for the whole Phelps crew to go away and/or die. They are very lucky all of them have not been gunned down at this point.
 
Kali, you're not wishing anything on them that they're not karmically drawing to themselves.
 
There are a couple things you just don't do.

You don't tug on Superman's cape.
And you don't go into an area hit so hard as Joplin and celebrate the victims killed in the tradgedy.

They just need a good old fashion ass kicking with a curb sandwich thrown in for good measures. Save the rod, spoil the child.
 
What is their point? Why are they celebrating tragedy? I don't get it.

The article you linked to was spun, that's why it reads so poorly. Wish I could see a better account.
 
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Good for Joplin. I'm also shocked that Phelps hasn't been ousted yet by someone. I think he may be shocked when he dies and God sends him to hell. It's not my place to judge his heart or his salvation, but based on his actions he seems to have no love of Christ in him and promotes a "follow the rules" mentality versus the truth that by God's grace we are forgiven when we repent, not by picking and choosing sins and hating others who disagree with us.
 
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I think his days of running roughshod over Americans are over.

The group feeds on hatred. The more they are hated, they more they are convinced of their self-fulfilling prophecy; they that are the Truth Speakers, and their reading of the Bible tells them they will be ostracized and despised for telling "the truth". So the more people wish them harm or death, they more they are convinced they are right.

Furthermore, these are smart people and many of them are lawyers. They know the law, they know their rights and they push those rights to the limit. Any violence or coercion will only benefit their cause.

They protested a football game in my home town. There was a group of about ten or so of them, and the other side of the road was about one thousand people countering their message. It wasn't so much a protest of them, it was a show of support to the ones they target, saying, "We are with you, not with them."

Like any group of mentally disturbed, attention-seeking people, ignore them and they will go away. Tough, but true.
 
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They just need a good old fashion ass kicking with a curb sandwich thrown in for good measures. Save the rod, spoil the child.

I've heard stories about the IRA in the Seventies and Eighties using a nailgun to nail a person's kneecaps to a curb. I think I'd enjoy that. I could do that all day.

What is their point? Why are they celebrating tragedy? I don't get it.

They provoke other groups into violating their civil rights and then sue them. That's how they support themselves. Frankly, I don't think they believe any of the nonsense they're spouting at all; they are cynically exploiting our willingness to tolerate this kind of behavior.

Any violence or coercion will only benefit their cause.

If violence against them benefits their cause, it is only because the level of violence employed was insufficient. People like the Westboro Baptists will always triumph over reasonable people because they're willing to do whatever it takes to get their way, and reasonable people aren't willing to do whatever it takes to stop them. Reasonable people have limits.

Like any group of mentally disturbed, attention-seeking people, ignore them and they will go away. Tough, but true.

They would also go away if we buried them.
 
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They provoke other groups into violating their civil rights and then sue them. That's how they support themselves.
Frankly, I don't think they believe any of the nonsense they're spouting at all

This is basically what it is.It's a provoke and sue scam. If only there was a way to prevent them collecting enough money to make their provoke and sue scam profitable or a way to ban it. These people are basically a step below the ambulance chasers and the scum who file fraudulent lawsuits against companies.


; they are cynically exploiting our willingness to tolerate this kind of behavior.

They are merely exploiting and misusing the law to their advantage for financial gain.

If violence against them benefits their cause, it is only because the level of violence employed was insufficient. People like the Westboro Baptists will always triumph over reasonable people because they're willing to do whatever it takes to get their way, and reasonable people aren't willing to do whatever it takes to stop them. Reasonable people have limits.

Reasonable people can stop them by cutting or severely limiting the attorney fees and any other compensation they receive from these provoke and sue scams.
 
What is their point? Why are they celebrating tragedy? I don't get it.

They think every bad that happens (soldiers dying in Iraq, the 2004 Tsunami and 2011 Japanese earthquake, the recent tornadoes) is God's devine punishment for the US's and humanity "acceptance" of homosexuality-- acceptance meaning anything short of throwing them in jail under sodomy laws.
 
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They think every bad that happens (soldiers dying in Iraq, the 2004 Tsunami and 2011 Japanese earthquake, the recent tornadoes) is God's devine punishment for the US's and humanity "acceptance" of homosexuality-- acceptance meaning anything short of throwing them in jail under sodomy laws.

Bastards. They sicken me.
 
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