New liberal Pope says another liberal thing.
Yawn. :coffeepap:
Yes, the notion that one should apologize for the wrongs you've to others is a "liberal thing" and one that right wingers find boring, if not objectionable
Thanks for acknowledging that
really, what office did he hold?
and almost all democrats are far from liberal
I don't think the Pope considers us Protestants Christian.
He does. Official Catholic teachings regarding protestants has changed in recent decades to where protestants are acknowledged as Christians, they dont belong to real churches. Rather, real churches include only the Catholic church and the various Orthodox churches.
Yes, the notion that one should apologize for the wrongs you've to others is a "liberal thing" and one that right wingers find boring, if not objectionable
Thanks for acknowledging that
I have a question, do you think Christianity should treat gay people like ****?
I gotta say, I once felt rejected by Christ but that was before I sought him. I do still feel like an alien in many churches and the members do that on purpose.
I will give you the benefit of the doubt, you may not mean that by your post, I may be overly sensitive, I feel I have the right to be, and I may just be feeling left over animosity visited upon me by churches in the past.
Is that what you ment? Gay people don't belong? Jesus made a promise to all people but gay folks?
When I wrong people, I do apologize.
As I've mentioned, I've never been in the habit of treating gays, or anyone else, like **** for no reason, so I don't feel any overwhelming urge to go round apologizing for things I didn't do.
When I wrong people, I do apologize.
As I've mentioned, I've never been in the habit of treating gays, or anyone else, like **** for no reason, so I don't feel any overwhelming urge to go round apologizing for things I didn't do.
That's because Christianity largely isn't conservative. They really hijacked the republican party.They don't know how to react when Christianity conflicts with GOP orthodoxy.
Francis: Christians must apologize to gay people for marginalizing them | National Catholic Reporter
Being that I am not Catholic, I don't tend to pay that much attention to the Pope when he tried to tell me how I should act and what I should do, as this particular Pope tends to do, a lot. However, when he tells his own church members what to do and how to act, I do pay attention because they make up the largest Christian church in the world.
In this instance, he's talking about actions that all Christians should take, but he does so through his own church members. Nonetheless, when he says "Who are we to judge them?" I go back to my understanding of the New Testament and what Jesus taught us, and I have to agree with him completely. As for the Catholic Church apologizing to gays, women, children, and the poor, well, that's something I don't feel comfortable opining about since, again, I'm not Catholic.
As for me, as a Christian, I apologized a long time ago, when I realized that the opinions I grew up being taught, were hateful and just plain wrong. I've grown and learned - it appears that the Catholic Church via this Pope, is growing and learning as well (at least on the subject of gays).
When I wrong people, I do apologize.
As I've mentioned, I've never been in the habit of treating gays, or anyone else, like **** for no reason, so I don't feel any overwhelming urge to go round apologizing for things I didn't do.
I don't think the Pope considers us Protestants Christian.
He does.
The Pope has called protestants Christians in the past and has called for greater unity between "all Christians" (in reference to protestants and Catholics).
Why Did Copeland, Robison Meet With Pope Francis? ? Charisma News
There are better articles than that on this topic. I recall reading one from a pastor who was in a meeting with the pope and other pastors who asked the Pope if he would bless them. The pope responded something along the lines of not needing to do that because, as church leaders, they were already his equals. I wish I could find that article, but it's one that came up on my Facebook and there's no way to search Facebook for such things. Anyway...it's out there, if you care enough you can google until you find it.
I mean the entire reason for the split was because of the ethical dilemmas created by the Catholic Church. Martin Luther? Anyone? And then of course you have Henry wanting a bunch of wives.
I'm not sure what this has to do with what I said, or with this topic.
New liberal Pope says another liberal thing.
Yawn. :coffeepap:
You were talking unity. I was just highlighting that the disunity is mainly because of splits that happened back in 1517. We used to be very unified.
When was that? The day before Paul got told off by a burning bush?
I know. Gimme a a pope who talks in tongues while handling snakes and all that good conservative old time religion. When did this Pope ever heal anyone, ferChristsakes.
I understand that.
You see the Catholic church has, as well as other churches synagogues abd mosques. They'll apologize when they see what they have done should they see it.
So I don't see a lefty pope saying lefty things. I see a genuine pope apologizing for the church's wrong doing.
What? 1517 is when Martin Luther poster the 95 theses. Maybe you don't know much about that? But it was kind of a big deal for world history when Protestantism diverged from Catholicism. And given that Protestants diverged from Catholics my statement Stands. We were quite unified...one in the same.
The original remark was just an off-the-cuff thing. I was feeling sarcastic at the moment and gave in to the temptation... but I understand what the point was.
The original remark was just an off-the-cuff thing. I was feeling sarcastic at the moment and gave in to the temptation... but I understand what the point was.
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