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four documented cases of voter fraud in the 2016 election

Maybe public awareness that voter fraud would not be tolerated kept it way down? Just a thought.

Other than that, lots of ballots haven't been reviewed.


WTH? Kept it way down??? It was NEVER up to begin with. Sheeeeesh. :roll:
 
Do you believe that without fraudulent votes, a Republican would win California?

That Donald Goddamned Trump ever had a snowball's chance in the center of a supernova of winning California?

What am I? A mystic? Are you saying that California is too far gone to ever vote Republican again? I know that the interior of Cali voted red, Generally LA, and the big cities went demo....So, yes, like libs wet dream, you want big city strongholds to run the rest of us...
 

Ever again? No, I wouldn't say that.

But in 2016? Wasn't going to happen. Do you agree?
 
Ever again? No, I wouldn't say that.

But in 2016? Wasn't going to happen. Do you agree?

Of course....Especially when no campaigning went on there....Repubs gave up on the state, and demo's take it for granted....Sweet eh?
 
Of course....Especially when no campaigning went on there....Repubs gave up on the state, and demo's take it for granted....Sweet eh?

Ok great.

So why would an illegal immigrant take the risk of casting yet another vote for a Democrat? It's not going to change anything. The risk:reward profile is all out of whack here.
 
Looks like they were both right because there was voter fraud.

Just because a few idiots out of about 160 million intentionally committed voter fraud, you consider that a problem? Really?


How about this.

When just about half the population cares enough to cast just one single ****ing vote, do you truly think people are out there scheming to get that extra votes in cuz -- gosh darn it -- they want their candidate to win? Do you think it's worth possible jail time to them? Seriously, think about it because your premise is so out of tune with actual reality.
 
If somebody really audited California, we'd be dumbfounded at the amount of voter fraud, and those voter ID laws would be looking mandatory.

Unless you're Miss Cleo, you don't know that. I can bet you that if relevant voter fraud happened, it would be the rigging/hacking of voting machines.
 
Ok great.

So why would an illegal immigrant take the risk of casting yet another vote for a Democrat? It's not going to change anything. The risk:reward profile is all out of whack here.

Well, my opinion is that much like the AA community demo's have pandered to this crowd with things like the 'dreamers' to the point that they genuinely think that getting Hillary in was their chance at instant citizenship, and if not, then they stay in the arrangement that they have now....
 

Going and casting a vote illegally doesn't actually do anything to put Hillary in the white house, because California's electoral votes were already going to swing that way. You agreed to this yourself.

So, nothing can change from casting that vote, but it does present a risk of jail time.

So why do it?
 
How do you track the ID of the people voting without requiring voter IDs? You seem to have picked the one form of voter fraud that is literally not screened for. :roll:

Of course, people have to show some form of ID. I do. But thing is, it does not have to be a picture ID. For instance, it could be a utility bill addressed in my name.
 

Could it be possible that without the possible illegal vote, CA would swing repub?
 
Aha! It doesn't really curtail voting.

But, if someone with the right agenda digs deeply enough, they could no doubt find a case in which some poor voter wasn't able to vote due to the new law. Maybe even two.

Yep, potential voter suppression is real and potential voter fraud is a myth - just look it up in the WaPo or NY Times.
 
Aha! It doesn't really curtail voting.

But, if someone with the right agenda digs deeply enough, they could no doubt find a case in which some poor voter wasn't able to vote due to the new law. Maybe even two.

It's worth noting that the courts struck down the Texas "strict" voter ID law. Our friend from Texas must know that but keeps misrepresenting the ID laws in his own state. :roll:
 
Well...no...they are also stolen by governors abandoning state law and granting voting rights to felons and party machines creating the environment for illegal immigrants to vote en masse without consequence.
 
Maybe, maybe not....I hope one day we will see....

You're suggesting that "maybe" literally half of Democrat votes in California were from illegal immigrants... and no Republican vote were.
 
Well...no...they are also stolen by governors abandoning state law and granting voting rights to felons and party machines creating the environment for illegal immigrants to vote en masse without consequence.

They're also stolen by error riddled voter purges that just so happen to have a bunch of black and Hispanic names on the list.

Point is some guy impersonating your neighbor or voting for the 'dead' is NEVER going to be something to worry about. It's like everything else in life - if you're looking to the powerless for blame in some significant event, you're looking at the wrong place. It's never them. It's ALWAYS going to be people with actual power.

BTW it would be nice to see some evidence about that illegal immigrants voting 'en masse.'
 

They have no evidence, I is all BS Rhetoric, before the election some here claimed there was voter fraud everywhere, they win the election, no voter fraud, now move along folks nothing to see here. As I said, BS, pure and simple.
 
You're suggesting that "maybe" literally half of Democrat votes in California were from illegal immigrants... and no Republican vote were.

Not at all that is your interpretation....
 
Color me surprised...

So my disclosure wasn't enough? Did you check to see if the information I posted was supported by factual data? Color me surprised if you didn't.

Actually, I did go back and check. Facts are interesting to me. The numbers are accurate. The conclusion? Well, certainly subjective, but that shouldn't be an issue to the left.

Why don't you check yourself?

Report: California Voter Registration Experiencing 'Historic Growth' | KPBS

Voter Registration Statistics | California Secretary of State

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/pubs/newsrel/newsrel15/2015_62


So, now that you have the data, please point out any inaccuracies to what I posted.

Thank you in advance.
 
Not at all that is your interpretation....

"Maybe" was your word, not mine.

And it's not an interpretation, it's math. For illegal immigrants to have swung California from Trump to Clinton in 2016, nearly 4.4 million illegal votes would have to have been cast for Hillary with zero for Trump. Roughly half of Hillary's vote total in California.

This isn't an interpretation. This is math. You said "maybe." You want to reconsider this, now that you're aware of the math?
 
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