About what? Why *YOU* ought to feel bad because her son killed himself?
It's not that life is actually ****ty - it's that they perceive it to be intolerable.
It's how one views things that's the difference.
Yes you do.I don't get why anyone thinks this, or any suicide, is a tragedy.
About what? Why *YOU* ought to feel bad because her son killed himself?
I don't get why anyone thinks this, or any suicide, is a tragedy. If someone doesn't want to live anymore, why should they be forced to, so long as it's their own choice in the matter?
purely selfish reason...but I feel bad, in part, because I really liked the show he was on.
I think you know what I meant.
About what? Why *YOU* ought to feel bad because her son killed himself?
Pretty sad. Dying at 29 is sad, period. Add to that a dream career and it's even sadder. I would suspect that he had some sort of mental illness or seemingly intolerable recent life events. And, in the end, people ultimately commit suicide when the difficultly and pain they experience exceeds the coping mechanisms they have. This is why it's essential that people with depression and other mental illnesses get treatment - so that they can learn how to cope with the pain and difficulties that result from their mental illness so that it doesn't overcome them.Former Disney star Lee Thompson Young commits suicide at 29 - NBC News.com
wow. so sad. I've never gotten "suicide", been through some pretty bad times and never thought about doing it. Maybe if I had been caught molesting a kid and was facing decades of abuse in prison, maybe.
She's perfectly entitled to feel bad, she had a personal relationship with him. You didn't, unless there's something about you we don't know.
It has nothing to do with being a misanthrope, it has to do with people being free to choose what they want to do with their bodies. If someone doesn't want to live any longer, for whatever reason, then it ought to be up to them if and when they choose to end their own life. It's certainly not a tragedy for the person involved, they are exercising their free will. It's only really a tragedy for the people who were directly and personally involved with the one who committed suicide. It's just that the biggest deal tends to be made by people who neither had any personal connection to the individual in question or any understanding of the individual's mindset, wishes or desires.
No, I can't read your mind. However, I know the difference between genuine confusion and feigned confusion. When someone says that they don't "get" something that is exceptionally easy to get, they are feigning confusion in order to make a point. That's what you did. /shrugWow, you can read my mind.
Was he on any shows currently? He was on Jett Jackson, he had a short-role on FlashForward. Both of those shows are on DVD, I'm sure. So what are you missing, honestly?
People feel bad for people they don't know all the time. It's called sympathy and empathy. This is basic human stuff here, Cephus. If someone doesn't have the capacity to feel for people they don't know, there is a problem.She's perfectly entitled to feel bad, she had a personal relationship with him. You didn't, unless there's something about you we don't know.
Because if my kids have problems I can help them fix it - killing yourself when you have 80 years left in life is ridiculous and senseless.
I've dealt with this twice in the last year with my two older children. Guess what? They're worlds better, now. Turns out that what had them falling apart was manageable as long as they had proper support. Though I actually had to make a rule that they weren't allowed to hurt their selves in any way. :roll: I have to actually explain this to you?
It's a tragedy to die for no reason just because you don't see a way out or someone else doesn't care about you.
I didn't bring my children into the world so that same world can crush them. I brought them into the world so they can struggle and come out better for it in the end.
people usually want to live because they have a living instinct .
but if they want to die when they are young and physically healthy it means they have a problem .
You certainly interpret what others say to suit your purpose, don't you?
You don't know anything about me, actually, so all you have to go on is what I write. You're willfully misconstruing my point. That's fine with me just so long as you're aware that it's pretty transparent. :roll:
You do have a point. There are people (ex terminally ill with excruciating pain) for whom life would be best if ended. However, I don't think that's the case in every suicide, or even in most suicides.
PS - When I made the misanthrope remark, I thought I was responding to Oscar.
But you're imposing your own standards on others, don't you see that?
He was on Rizzoli & Iles on TNT. In fact, the last episode of the season had to be shelved now.
No, I don't see that.
Maybe you could quote the post where I imposed any standards on anyone else.
sangha said:There are people (ex terminally ill with excruciating pain) for whom life would be best if ended.
To you. To them, who knows? If they want to be helped, great. If they do not, it's not your job to impose "help" upon them. It's not up to you to determine how long another human being on this planet lives, regardless of your personal, emotional attachment to them. This guy was 29 years old, an adult, he ought to be able to make his own decisions.
That you're reacting entirely emotionally? No, that's quite clear. The problem is that so many people seem to have a major problem with over-emotionalizing, any time anyone dies, they freak out like it's the end of the world. In reality, it isn't about someone else's demise, it's about their own fear of death, projected onto others.
But you're the one projecting onto him. Apparently he saw a reason to die because he killed himself. He didn't do it for no reason. Just because you don't agree with his reasons doesn't mean those reasons didn't exist, or were not valid to him.
But you only have control for so long, after which, they're adults and get to make their own decisions. Some people don't want to go on living. That's just the way it is. Some people just act stupidly and end up dead as a result. That's also just the way it is. My grandfather died in his 60s because he was a diabetic and refused to take care of himself. My father died in his 60s because he spent a certain amount of his life smoking (we don't know for sure how long, he hid it for decades) and got cancer. As much as I miss them both, I have no right to force my views on either of them and force them to act in accordance to my wishes. They were adults, they made their own choices, they paid the consequences for them.
That's really the issue, so many people are terrified of death that whenever anyone dies, even someone they've never met, they freak out instead of just accepting the inevitable conclusion that death is a natural part of life. I get that a lot of people have a strong emotional reaction to the thought of dying, but to take that to the extreme of claiming that other people, people they don't even personally know, have to live by a particular set of dictates that keep them alive, even if they don't want to be, just so the individual can feel good about not dying, is a bit absurd, wouldn't you say?
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