Forensic Analysis: Planned Parenthood Videos Are ‘Authentic’ [W:139]

[Deuce]

Re: Forensic Analysis: Planned Parenthood Videos Are ‘Authentic’

Yeah, really! They should raise prices. And maybe send a little dividend check to the would be mother (nothing for the father, of course) just to be fair.




If you have to ask "so what?" to something like that, you need to rethink your life. And shave that little mustache off.

So you want them to profit off selling fetal tissues? Interesting argument.

I don't agree, personally, but that's just me.

 

[Ockham]

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So you want them to profit off selling fetal tissues? Interesting argument.

I don't agree, personally, but that's just me.

Why don't you agree? Hell - if you're going to go as far as to advocate killing a human fetus for any reason under the sun, you might as well make a few shekels on the poor bugger.

 

[Jack Hays]

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The amount they're being sold for can't possibly produce a profit for PP, as experts have weighed in. Also, investigations are turning up nothing on PP.

Assuming this did happen, so what?

Ugh, this is all spun so much.
Refer to factcheck and the opinions of experts that are relevant.

"The denial is strong in this one."

 

[David_N]

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Gotcha!

You didn't read it, merely rejected it as the source. "The most recent" is what, when? Look, we're not idiots, I've seen the video, those words were spoken. Simply yelling "smear" and "fraud" if hiding, cowardice.
Let us have a dialogue on who said those words, the money for body parts and exactly what they mean. For too long, the Amerikan left led by the likes of Hilary, evade everything, Clinton has hidden behind simply shouting "liar, liar" at every accusation that comes along.

I was a journalist for too long too buy that ****. That great "right wing conspiracy" is NOT behind everything, and if you want the air cleared, let's hear from the people who spoke those words, what they meant, what was their intent, and allow questions from an unbiased moderator. Those words were spoken, the world has a right to know what they mean.

Oh, but I did read it, and the most recent investigation in this: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/30/us/planned-parenthood-fetal-tissue-missouri.html
Unspinning the Planned Parenthood Video

 

[David_N]

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"The denial is strong in this one."

You show me something that turns up evidence.

 

[Ockham]

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Exactly....as is your opinion in the face of the medical facts. :lamo

Medical facts like executing a human fetus you mean. Yes.

 

[sangha]

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Forensic Analysis: Planned Parenthood Videos Are 'Authentic'



This is interesting. I am not posting to fight about abortion. My interest is in the validity of the videos. I have to state, I have not watched the videos and I will not watch the videos. I am looking at the analysis of both sides.

With regard to the
“Full Footage”
YouTube videos released by the Organization, edits made to these videos were applied to eliminate non-pertinent footage,
including “
commuting,
” “
waiting,
” “
adjusting recording equipment,
” “meals
,
” or “
restroom breaks,
”
lacking pertinent conversation. Any discrepancies in the chronology of the timecodes are consistent with the intentional removal of this non-pertinent footage as described in this report

IOW, even the "investigators" CMP hired admit that the so-called "Full Footage" videos were edited

 

[Deuce]

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Why don't you agree? Hell - if you're going to go as far as to advocate killing a human fetus for any reason under the sun, you might as well make a few shekels on the poor bugger.

You think I "advocate killing a human fetus?"

 

[Ockham]

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You think I "advocate killing a human fetus?"

Oh I'm sorry - you are anti-abortion are you?

 

[Jack Hays]

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You show me something that turns up evidence.

I'm pro-choice and I find Fiorina's narrative persuasive.

 

[Fletch]

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You think I "advocate killing a human fetus?"

What do you think abortion is?

 

[Deuce]

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Oh I'm sorry - you are anti-abortion are you?

What do you think abortion is?

I'm pro-choice. I know someone like yourself doesn't usually see a difference between pro-choice and pro-abortion, so I'll give a parallel example:

Are you against someone giving up a child for adoption? Probably not. However, surely you'd agree that this isn't the ideal situation. You're not for giving up children, but recognize that sometimes it's necessary for various reasons. Right? Make sense?

 

[David_N]

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I'm pro-choice and I find Fiorina's narrative persuasive.

In other words, no evidence.

 

[Fletch]

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I'm pro-choice. I know someone like yourself doesn't usually see a difference between pro-choice and pro-abortion, so I'll give a parallel example:

Are you against someone giving up a child for adoption? Probably not. However, surely you'd agree that this isn't the ideal situation. You're not for giving up children, but recognize that sometimes it's necessary for various reasons. Right? Make sense?

When you argue that "killing a human fetus' is a reasonable choice you become an advocate for that choice whether you think you are or not.

 

[Deuce]

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When you argue that "killing a human fetus' is a reasonable choice you become an advocate for that choice whether you think you are or not.

Only if you see the world in black and white, which I do not. :shrug:

 

[Jack Hays]

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In other words, no evidence.

The evidence has been presented. You responded with denial.

 

[David_N]

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The evidence has been presented. You responded with denial.

No, it hasn't, if there was any evidence that was viable, PP would be caught doing SOMETHING in one of the many investigations done.

 

[Anthony60]

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So you want them to profit off selling fetal tissues? Interesting argument.

I don't agree, personally, but that's just me.

Oh, damn. I guess the sarcasm went right over your head.

 

[Deuce]

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Oh, damn. I guess the sarcasm went right over your head.

Oh damn. I guess the sarcasm went right over your head.

 

[Anthony60]

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I'm pro-choice. I know someone like yourself doesn't usually see a difference between pro-choice and pro-abortion, so I'll give a parallel example:

Are you against someone giving up a child for adoption? Probably not. However, surely you'd agree that this isn't the ideal situation. You're not for giving up children, but recognize that sometimes it's necessary for various reasons. Right? Make sense?

There is something missing. At what point in the adoption do they kill the child? See, the "giving up children" at Planned Parenthood = death. In an adoption, it equals a new home. A little different.

 

[Deuce]

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There is something missing. At what point in the adoption do they kill the child? See, the "giving up children" at Planned Parenthood = death. In an adoption, it equals a new home. A little different.

*sigh* I just freaking knew you'd respond as though I was saying adoption and abortion were the same thing.

Parallel is not a synonym for identical. Try again and formulate a new response.

 

[Anthony60]

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*sigh* I just freaking knew you'd respond as though I was saying adoption and abortion were the same thing.

Parallel is not a synonym for identical. Try again and formulate a new response.

So, you knew your argument was flawed from the beginning. I guess that's a pitfall of being a liberal.

 

[Deuce]

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So, you knew your argument was flawed from the beginning. I guess that's a pitfall of being a liberal.

:roll:

Forget the analogy. You're bad at analogies. Let's go back to the actual point:

I am not pro-abortion. I just don't want it to be illegal. I think it's a last resort. Does that clarify things for you? There's no "argument" with "flaws," I'm stating my opinion. You're failing to understand my opinion.

 

[sookster]

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This is a phenomenon we can credit the internet over. The internet, we can share and view opinions and vasts amount of information to the point Truth is lost. There's no ethics anymore in "journalism." Everything is either or close to propaganda.

I'm at the point that I don't know what to think. I do know there have been multiple investigations, and they came up clean. Yet if that goes against peoples' views, people discredit it immediately. Because we all know that agendas take precedent over what is right on both sides.

So what's the point? How can you ever come closer to Truth, rather than further away from it?

 

[polgara]

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In other words, no evidence.

Greetings, David_N. :2wave:

Hearing someone explain in gruesome detail what she had to do was enough evidence for most people! No one has come forward calling her a liar, so she was apparently telling the truth or they would have attacked her story immediately. She further explained that another fetus was discarded in a metal bowl and left to die, which proves it was alive at that point. PP is currently stating that nothing they are doing is illegal, which is unbelievable to me. *shaking head in shock and horror at the cold-hearted indifference shown to an innocent victim of circumstance*