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For those who are afraid of guns

alphieb said:
Nope, I watch the news and hear about all too many kids going to school with guns and shooting people.
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Are you seriously going to blame school shootings solely on guns? People have had access to guns for decades. Why would access to guns be to blame for the amount of school shootings that there are today?


The problem is crazy people shouldn't have ANY access to "objects".
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How exactly is banning these "objects" going to benefit the people who aren't crazy and who are using "objects" for protection.
 
alphieb said:
The problem is crazy people shouldn't have ANY access to "objects".
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Who gets to decide what makes someone "crazy"? How do you determine if someone is crazy?

The solution is more ambiguous than the fuzzy criteria for qualification as "crazy".
 
First, You can live in a state that has laws against certain firearms and drive to another and bring it back to said state. Example, you cant buy a ak-47 with a detacable 30 rd magizine and take it to california because that is illegal in the state of california. Better yet you cant even buy a weopon in a state your not resident of. Im in the Marine Corps, to purchase a weopon in the state of North Carolina i had to show that i had been a resident of NC for 6 months.

Second, An arguement based on gangs killing each other your reasoning for limiting guns. Thats dumb, really dumb. I careless if a gang member kills a gang member. Should worry about that law abiding citizen him and is fellow gang members house they bring into and kill just because someone had to make their bones to get in the gang.

Third, If the incompedent person would secure his or her weopons correctly were wouldnt have stolen weapons for criminals to buy.

Forth, One gun is not the same a 500 guns. Junk guns are cheap guns, that are not of any historical value, they are not high quality. Junk guns are in essences designed to be "throw aways" shot them a couple times. O well if it breaks or you kill someone with it and throw in the trash can.

Fifth, Dont blame school shooting or any shooting on the avaiblity of guns. That is a crap out. Attack or better yet make your real point the person who pulled the trigger.
 
scourge99 said:
I don't see a difference in buying one gun or 500. It only takes one gun to kill the same amount of people as 500 guns.

If joe bob buys 5 junk guns it doesn't make him more likely to kill more people. One gun can do the same as 5.
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I realize this, the thing is someone buying cheap guns may be looking to dump them, cheaper guns become "disposable" while I don't think that the inanimate object being junk will be solely purchased by criminals, it does, admittedly raise a red flag. I don't have a problem with a few questions asked if suspicion is well founded and documented.
 
dclxvinoise said:
Are you seriously going to blame school shootings solely on guns? People have had access to guns for decades. Why would access to guns be to blame for the amount of school shootings that there are today?
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More like centuries, that doesn't invalidate the point however, just strengthens it.




How exactly is banning these "objects" going to benefit the people who aren't crazy and who are using "objects" for protection.
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It doesn't benefit anyone, only makes people who don't understand weaponry feel like they have accomplished something towards safety.
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LaMidRighter said:
More like centuries, that doesn't invalidate the point however, just strengthens it.
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Exactly. Centuries is what I meant to put. For some reason I wasn't thinking clearly when I typed decades.
 
alphieb said:
Nope, I watch the news and hear about all too many kids going to school with guns and shooting people. The problem is crazy people shouldn't have ANY access to "objects".
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so how many laws do you want to pass that they violate?

gun bans to prevent crime is akin to a course of chemotherapy that kills all the healthy cells while diminishing almost none of the cancerous cells.
 
Gun laws restrict civilians, not criminals. Criminals DO NOT OBEY LAWS, passing another one wont change a thing.
 
Lachean said:
Gun laws restrict civilians, not criminals. Criminals DO NOT OBEY LAWS, passing another one wont change a thing.
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The entire purpose behind gun bans and other restrictions is to harass gun owners who are seen by democrats as being normally GOP supporters.

Leaders of the gun ban movement cannot tell the public their real motivations so they spew the discredited lies that gun bans are designed to make people safer
 
A gunless society is better than a society with guns.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
happy happy fun utopia land is a better society than reality land..... ;)




BTW bodhi, when are you going to answer my respose to you militia claim?
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There we go Reverend! Was that so difficult! :rofl

Soon. Too much reality for these beautiful summer days.

Tonight. Just started with some intense showers.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
happy happy fun utopia land is a better society than reality land..... ;)




BTW bodhi, when are you going to answer my respose to you militia claim?
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a society without gun banners is far better than one with them. The good news is-if the poop hits the fan, we have the power to create such a society:mrgreen::mrgreen:
 
Bodhisattva said:
A gunless society is better than a society with guns.
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Would that be so the more physically powerful could more easily prey on those who are weaker? Although you may consider that a better society, I don't think I would.
 
TOJ said:
Would that be so the more physically powerful could more easily prey on those who are weaker? Although you may consider that a better society, I don't think I would.
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:lol: What? :lol:

Seriously... I make a statement about having less lethal weapons being good and you turn it around and make it sound like I am being sly so that the strong can dominate the weak? That goes against my premise, if you had asked... but instead you made some wierd assumption.

For all you know I am 5'2" a woman with one leg and fat :rofl

If you want to continue to act like a clown, go ahead.
If you want to talk about this like a thinking adult, then by all means, please do. ;)
 
Pages 50-53 addresses weapon ownership and criminal activity specifically.
 
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