And this just proves my point that liberals are mental cases. Iran unlike iraq only has the means to build a nuclear arsenal instead of building a massive army and military so therefor if we went into war with iran it wouldnt be that difficult. The only thing is Iran is bigger and more populated. But most of the insurgents in Iraq are from Iran and syria so theres really no getting out of that factor. And your right your whole post sounds really dumb at least you know that yourself.
Thank you for ignoring the last part of my post, perhaps I should have directed it at you too. I'm not a liberal. I dont base my opinions on party lines, and I dont hold to stupid "liberal" or "conservative" ideals. If I sound liberal when talking politics (not issues, politics) its because I happen to personally dislike alot more republican politicians than democratic politicians. Just because I'm not for you doesnt mean im "against" you. I dont understand your logic in this, we can beat them to a pulp, so we should? It doesnt matter if they go nuclear because, they can't get the bombs to us, last time I checked they dont have ICBMs, and I would like to try more diplomacy before we go off the handle and invade. I hope you have don't have enough faith in our intelligence services to believe they can stop an arab from getting a full blown nuke into the US. Even if we did invade Iran and stomp the **** out of their military (which, I have no doubt, we can do easily), so what? As I said before, the people would not sit and go: "hey, we just got invaded, lets do what the invaders want". The majority of the people would strap on some ammo belts and attempt to go rambo on US troops. We would never pacify the country, and the potential damage to regional stability would be catastrophic. The potential payoff is not worth the potential damage in my eyes.
To sum up: I have no doubt we would be able to do some serious ass kicking in Iran, I'm just worried about potential repercussions and rebuilding. I think we should at least make sure we can get Iraq back on track first before we try it in a country sure to have a worse situation.
The fact is if our mission is to remove a dictator and then setup a better means of gov then thats what will happen just like it did in iraq. Look, just becasue there are insurgents doesnt mean things arent going smoothly. Whenever you do anything there will always be people who dont agree with you(an opposition) its just the way the world is. I mean we could create a new ammendment saying "all child predators if convicted guilty will be jailed for life without a retrial." And there will be people who would actually disagree with that. I mean do you people have any idea what we have done for the iraqi people? We just didnt free them. We have opened iraq up to the world and now Iraq has the opportunity to establish new business partners and can now be an ally to most of the world. Tourism will flourish, their economy will boom from it, they will also have the US right on their side just like kuwait does. The iraqi people will have pwers they never had before because they are allies with us.
Yes saddam was bad, yes I'm glad hes gone, yes most of the Iraqi people are happy he is gone, but are they really that much better off? They pretty much have the same chance of getting killed currently as under saddam. Does it matter that they die "free", do they care?
As I said before, I dont think dictator removal by outside force is an effective measure due to alot of thinking on my part which requires extensive and confusing explanation. Suffice to say it makes sense to me, and hey, it's a "free" country, I can say what I want.
An open Iraq is nice, but nobody wants to go there now. Maybe ten years down the line when the country settles down (or maybe after the civil war) people will come to Iraq. So in the long run, maybe it will be better for the Iraqi people, but it certainly wont help us in getting things done around the world. Do you enjoy having to put up with **** like "arrogant americans" and "imperial americans" and all that other crap? I know I don't, and its the same on the International government level. Nobody likes us anymore, and you may say: "well then **** 'em, we don't need 'em" but the truth is we do need their cooperation. We are part of an international community and nobody likes a bully.