For anyone tempted to give either Mitch McConnell or Mike Pence even the slightest degree of credit this morning

[CimpleMan]

Actions speak louder than words.
Turn out the lights and we can see who's guilty.

 

[CaughtInThe]

Yup, no worries. That was the end of your republic and Pence signed it.

This is where our country rises from the ashes yet again.

 

[RAMOSS]

Perhaps it's because they weren't the ones that lost?




Huh?

Last I heard it was an unarmed Air Force vet Woman who was killed?

Who was in the process of invading the capitol building, so she was killed in the act of conspiracy sedition. It's a shame, but she listened to qannon rather than reality.

 

[Maximus Zeebra]

This is where our country rises from the ashes yet again.

Hah, right. You never will with these people having stolen your country, claiming they represent you, biggest joke.

Well, let's at least give Trump an applause for trying to do something about these crooks. It failed, but ok, he tried.

 

[CaughtInThe]

Hah, right. You never will with these people having stolen your country, claiming they represent you, biggest joke

Nothing was stolen. Donald Trump wore an ass whippin. Now he's acting like a little girl.

We have men like that. sometimes idiots elect them.

 

[Lursa]

Not so fast! You cannot on one hand be demanding a peaceful and legitimate transfer of power now after a lawful election, but forget how the left sought to de-legitimize Donald Trump's election and his presidency 4 years ago right out of the gate.

It's a joke if you think the 2 are comparable. Not even remotely close.

Mitch McConnel and others merely accepted the WILL OF THE PEOPLE who had elected Donald Trump, there was no enabaling in that, Trump was a legitimate president.

"I was only following orders."

And now to make it worse, pretend otherwise, they are bending over the other way. Hypocrites.

So, you lefties and whine all you want to, but you NEVER accepted his presidency, or the desire of half of America to have an option to the far left policies of the democrats. I distinctly remember marches of "not my president" 4 years ago.

Mischaracterization of myself, and there are some extremists on both sides. I'm not one of them, the above is irrelevant and does not excuse others doing what they've condemned That's more hypocrisy.

Removed for what? There was no truth to the Russia hoax, what should he have been removed for? Doesn't work that way, and as much as you on the left want to claim today how embarrassing Donald Trump's recent behavior has been. You seem to conveniently have forgotten all of the shrill claims and accusations not just against Trump, but pretty much everyone in his organization.

It was true...the Senate had the numbers to suppress the evidence being heard.

Wow, you didnt know that?

But nothing new there, you lefties said the sames things about G.W. Bush, John McCain, and Mitt Romney. But now they are among your heroes.

Oh cry more, why dont you That's not an argument.

Sorry, you have lost all credibility, and are no position to judge Mitch McConnell, or any other Republican.

The bold has never been in doubt regarding your posts.

 

[Lursa]

Trump yesterday complained about "suppression polls". Which boil down to psychologically manipulating people by issuing polls that make it appear that their candidate can't win so they stay home.

Too bad he believed that his followers were that dumb and easily cowed. He's never shown them respect...he's said he knows they'll believe anything he tells them.

For once, it seems he's right.

 

[Lursa]

It will be fine if you hate the truth and accept being lied to daily

Wow. Just wow.

That is what we're escaping from. That is the reason we 'took out the garbage' in November. Trump's kool-aid is truly powerful.

 

[Lursa]

This is your future people, in the hands of "people" like this.

I guess if you can look at those pics of the invasion of the Capitol yesterday and not see 'despicable pigs,' that's a logical response.

 

[element94]

Hah, right. You never will with these people having stolen your country, claiming they represent you, biggest joke.

Well, let's at least give Trump an applause for trying to do something about these crooks. It failed, but ok, he tried.

Trump failed because this is how his stunted backwoods nitwits, whose mothers and fathers are also brothers and sisters, see him:

But this is the reality:

 

[jpn]

Why? What exactly makes you hate Trump? What exactly did he do wrong in terms of being a president in relations to politics?

The fact that you asked why do I hate Trump immediately under a list of reasons why I hated him, makes me think that communicating with you is not possible.

 

[What if...?]

Too bad he believed that his followers were that dumb and easily cowed. He's never shown them respect...he's said he knows they'll believe anything he tells them.

For once, it seems he's right.

I knew many would believe anything he said.

But even though I casually study this stuff I never expected it to be this many.

25% is my scratch estimate for the number of humans who are completely helpless in the face of persuasion.

Any time numbers of people believe things obviously assimilated through manufactured narratives it's about 25%.

Also really strong expressions of the genes associated with following behaviors, evolved after we settled down and started producing food, which put massive evolutionary pressure on us as it was a fundamental change in how we lived and how we interrelated. Many of our adaptations did not scale up to groups larger than about 700.

 

[What if...?]

The fact that you asked why do I hate Trump immediately under a list of reasons why I hated him, makes me think that communicating with you is not possible.

Those aren't flaws! They're features!

 

[calamity]

I'd suggest you reflect on their years of knowingly abetting Simpleton's cruelty, bigotry and pitiful lying, to say nothing of his having DIRECTLY AND UNAMBIGUOUSLY encouraged the horrific scenes we saw yesterday. They have been the Himmler's to Simpleton's Hitler. They deserve no praise and no quarter.

You don't get to jump off a sinking ship at 11:59 and 59 seconds and get to claim moral purity.

I am no fan of either. But, face it. They could have acted a lot worse. I applaud both for stepping up when needed the most. Lady G too. She did well to say, Trump really is a lout. I'm so sorry--well, Lindsey did not quite go that far, but the boozy message was clear.

Do I forgive their past sins? Not a chance.

 

[bomberfox]

Not so fast! You cannot on one hand be demanding a peaceful and legitimate transfer of power now after a lawful election, but forget how the left sought to de-legitimize Donald Trump's election and his presidency 4 years ago right out of the gate.

Mitch McConnel and others merely accepted the WILL OF THE PEOPLE who had elected Donald Trump, there was no enabaling in that, Trump was a legitimate president.
So, you lefties and whine all you want to, but you NEVER accepted his presidency, or the desire of half of America to have an option to the far left policies of the democrats. I distinctly remember marches of "not my president" 4 years ago.



Removed for what? There was no truth to the Russia hoax, what should he have been removed for? Doesn't work that way, and as much as you on the left want to claim today how embarrassing Donald Trump's recent behavior has been. You seem to conveniently have forgotten all of the shrill claims and accusations not just against Trump, but pretty much everyone in his organization.

But nothing new there, you lefties said the sames things about G.W. Bush, John McCain, and Mitt Romney. But now they are among your heroes.

Sorry, you have lost all credibility, and are no position to judge Mitch McConnell, or any other Republican.

Whataboutery is the hypocrisy

 

[bomberfox]

So they're responsible for a handful of protesters who stormed the doors/window?

Yes they are 100% responsible. They could have prevented all of this. Those people had direct institutional backing from high offices.

 

[Maximus Zeebra]

Only a devout Trump ass kisser would as such a mornic and ignorant question, one bereft of any sense of decency, integrity and basic intellect.

You see, you don't even have an answer. The answer is because everyone told you to hate Trump.

 

[Hamish Howl]

You see, you don't even have an answer. The answer is because everyone told you to hate Trump.

He's easy to hate. He is a repulsive worm and also a miserable failure.

 

[Maximus Zeebra]

He's easy to hate. He is a repulsive worm and also a miserable failure.

So you have no concrete explanation as to why you hate Trump?
I do.. I know exactly why you hate Trump, because you've been told thousands of times by the media, a large group of politicians in DC and big tech, that "you must hate Trump", and so you hate Trump.

I've had this discussion with people IRL who hate Trump, they never have any reason, and they can never justify their positions.

 

[Hamish Howl]

So you have no concrete explanation as to why you hate Trump?
I do.. I know exactly why you hate Trump, because you've been told thousands of times by the media, a large group of politicians in DC and big tech, that "you must hate Trump", and so you hate Trump.

I've had this discussion with people IRL who hate Trump, they never have any reason, and they can never justify their positions.

I don't owe you an explanation. I don't owe you a damn thing. Suck it up.

 

[prometeus]

You see, you don't even have an answer. The answer is because everyone told you to hate Trump.

No, I just am not interested explaining things that are plain as daylight to a Trump ass kisser. What possible difference would it make? The lack of integrity and intellect would only make you deny and misrepresent everything.

 

[Court Jester]

Whataboutery is the hypocrisy

"Whataboutery" is almost as stupid a term as "woke" is. An invented means for the weak minded panty waist army to attempt to ignore logic, and protect their fragile soy boy sensibilities.

 

[Court Jester]

"I was only following orders."

And now to make it worse, pretend otherwise, they are bending over the other way. Hypocrites.

Your reference to Mitch McConnell has no basis in fact. Mitch McConnell has consistently represented Republican and conservative agenda matters first, he was NEVER merely a lackey to Donald Trump, and has on more than one occasion not only stood firm to disagree with Trump, but also unequivocally criticized the President when he has disagreed him.

What you and other fail to understand, is that just because many Republicans worked with Donald Trump, doesn't mean they agreed with his personality.

 

[Maximus Zeebra]

No, I just am not interested explaining things that are plain as daylight to a Trump ass kisser. What possible difference would it make? The lack of integrity and intellect would only make you deny and misrepresent everything.

Wow, just wow..

 

[Lursa]

Your reference to Mitch McConnell has no basis in fact. Mitch McConnell has consistently represented Republican and conservative agenda matters first, he was NEVER merely a lackey to Donald Trump, and has on more than one occasion not only stood firm to disagree with Trump, but also unequivocally criticized the President when he has disagreed him.

What you and other fail to understand, is that just because many Republicans worked with Donald Trump, doesn't mean they agreed with his personality.

Didnt say 'merely,' Mitch is smart...he used The Donald for every mile he could. And then tossed him aside (earlier than yesterday) when it no longer benefited him.

That 'using,' that 'enabling,' exactly what I was speaking to.

And his personality is meaningless at this point. NOW you all see just how important 'character' is. It was a convenient excuse for those who saw how stupid and blustery and narcissistic he was....but look at the damage that character has caused. I love it, I was just waiting for this. That character is what led him to focus solely on re-election in the last several months and practically ignore the pandemic...and it likely COST him re-election

There's zero moral High Ground in saying people ignored his personality...well....that was stupid and shortsighted. And it was ignored just to get what you wanted. Just like McConnell...using AND enabling to get what you want.

Well, he's completely exposed now. To many of you. Not me and millions of others, we knew. But all of you are responsible for him and letting him go on this long without consequences.