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Awww, what a SHOCK they cannot find the tapes proving the Israelis lied. And you visit an activist website to get this too! Propaganda much?
Awww, what a SHOCK they cannot find the tapes proving the Israelis lied. And you visit an activist website to get this too! Propaganda much?
The retraction was made by the IDF. If truth is not your interest responding to your posts is not mine. I have noticed you just bait. Not interested I will put you on ignore.
They can't because it was seized by the IDF.
And the only thing we have to believe your claims, Vicchio, is what the IDF has claimed. Propaganda much? Use an objective source to prove that the tapes are real. You can't because you take the IDF's account as objective.
The retraction was made by the IDF. If truth is not your interest responding to your posts is not mine. I have noticed you just bait. Not interested I will put you on ignore.
Do you put everyone that disagrees with you on ignore?
Oh snap, now you're talking crazy talk, you'll get put on ignore dog.This entire forum would be better off if we could ignore the constant stream of hate sites and propaganda sites you reference. THis particular one also calls itself "delegitimize.com" -- a reference to its desire to delegitimize Israel as a step towards destroying it.
You have nothing to prove the IDF tapes are not legit, and you only do that because it's Jewish.
You have no proof the IDF tapes are legit, and you only believe they are because they are against Muslims.
I do not believe the IDF has credibility anymore. They are about as credible as the Taliban.
That is your personal bias showing through. You are against anything and anybody who stands up for Israel.
That is your own personal opinion. I am critical of Israeli foreign policy.
I even said Israel had every right to board the ship had it been in Israeli territorial waters or Gaza's territorial waters (since Israel maintains a maritime blockade on Gaza's naval border). Does that count as me being against Israel?
You have no proof the IDF tapes are legit, and you only believe they are because they are against Muslims.
I do not believe the IDF has credibility anymore. They are about as credible as the Taliban.
You have no proof the IDF tapes are legit, and you only believe they are because they are against Muslims.
I do not believe the IDF has credibility anymore. They are about as credible as the Taliban.
There is certainly no question that when official organisations produce material which is not what they say it is and is deliberately designed to create a false impression, their credibility is seriously reduced.
I think its credibility was completely restored when it has posted the unedited video and we've all witnessed that the editing was completely irreverent to the point made by the publishing of the tape.
At no part did the IDF say that the tape was not cut short.
Last week, the Israel Defence Force had to issue a retraction over an audio clip it had claimed was a conversation between Israeli naval officials and people on the Mavi Marmara, in which an activist told soldiers to "go back to Auschwitz". The clip was carried by Israeli and international press, but today the army released a "clarification/correction", explaining that it had edited the footage and that it was not clear who had made the comment.
Go look at a map...How would a ship sailing to Gaza winf up in Israeli territorial waters?
Are you saying that no blockade is legal, and that JFK was a criminal, stopping the Soviets bringing missles to Cuba?
Coming from a person with a lower credibility than the Taliban, I do not think it holds much water truly. :2razz:
Go look at a map...
No, I am saying Israel's blockade of Gaza is illegal because:
- it does not distinguish between civilian and military
- the damage to the civilian population is excessive in relation to the direct military advtange gained
- the blockade is not effective in reducing militants' capabilities to launch rockets in Israel
And do you think JFK banned chocolate, shoes, coriander, ginger, jam, potato chips, fresh meat, dried fruit, etc. from Cuba? Can you tell me what direct military advantage is gained from banning those items? That is why the blockade is illegal and will always be illegal until Israel revises the terms of that blockade.
http://gisha.org/UserFiles/File/HiddenMessages/ItemsGazaStrip060510.pdf
http://www.gisha.org/index.php?intLanguage=2&intItemId=1784&intSiteSN=113Gisha expresses sorrow at reports that dozens of civilians have been killed or injured during the Israeli military's interception of boats bound for the Gaza Strip, carrying humanitarian assistance and hundreds of foreign and Israeli activists, including elected representatives...
It would be better for all concerned – Israel, Palestinian residents of Gaza, and those seeking to visit Gaza – if Israel would allow the regular and free passage of people, raw materials for industry, building materials, and export goods in and out of Gaza, subject only to concrete, individual security checks.
Is Gisha.org a legitimate source?
(It's supported by George Soros to the tune of 200k/year.)
It could, of course, be left-wing and legit. Is it?
Gisha Site
Go look up the definitions... that might help. If you are going to attempt to answer my question, do it without the rhetoric.How can you distinguish between a civilian and a soldier when the civilian is a suicide bomber. Remember the Wooden Horse Of Troy?
Go look up the definitions... that might help. If you are going to attempt to answer my question, do it without the rhetoric.
How can you distinguish between a civilian and a soldier when the civilian is a suicide bomber. Remember the Wooden Horse Of Troy?
Indeed. Jews just threw a dart at a world map and shazzam... our homeland is right there!I have no sympathy. In that case, they should've established their "homeland" elsewhere besides smack-dab in the middle of the Islamic world.
Indeed. Jews just threw a dart at a world map and shazzam... our homeland is right there!
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