Florida may soon ban asphalt shingles

[LouC]

With insurance reaching ruinous levels in Florida, the State is looking at banning asphalt shingles, both for new construction and as a replacement for existing construction. All roofs would be required to be metal if the changes are made.

For Florida, I would agree with this. Metal is far more resilient, not to mention that metal roofs far outlast asphalt.

Yes, they are more expensive, but a one time expense of a metal roof would equate to decades of relief from increased insurance costs.

Guess it will be determined by which Industry Lobby has the Deepest Pockets, the Insurance Lobby or the Asphalt Shingle Lobby. But, if I had some cash, I would buy some metal shingle Company Stock.

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[coyote505]

Not sure how much of a difference this would make.

I was a roofer for years, did a lot of architectural shingles and metal including flat seem and standing seem.

Metal is a great product if done correctly. Often times it isn't.

Not sure if it really matters if your shingles blow off when you have a 10' storm surge that ruins everything from the ground up. They should go with clay tiles or something similar. I wonder if that is acceptable? It probably is.
Probably even more expensive than metal, but makes for a bullet proof roof.

One of our universities in NM had all clay tile roofs. Great; until a bad hail storm destroyed every one of them. Nothing is bulletproof.

 

[Lursa]

In other words the government getting more deeply involved into our lives. Is this the Republican version of smaller government?

I'm for it if the govt or someone subsidizes it for people. Right now, people in FL can barely get home insurance. I think the insurance industry needs a huge overhaul but it's one of the top 3 lobbies in DC and very powerful.

FL currently has tons of laws related to hurricanes. This would be a state law...and if it makes homes safer and fewer were destroyed during storms...sure. FL also has wildfires and metal roofs are better for that as well. With climate change, storms and conditions in FL are only going to geet worse.

 

[MAGAnificent]

With insurance reaching ruinous levels in Florida, the State is looking at banning asphalt shingles, both for new construction and as a replacement for existing construction. All roofs would be required to be metal if the changes are made.

For Florida, I would agree with this. Metal is far more resilient, not to mention that metal roofs far outlast asphalt.

Yes, they are more expensive, but a one time expense of a metal roof would equate to decades of relief from increased insurance costs.

I think they should just regulate asphalt shingle roofs a bit tighter. A much less costly alternative to a steel roof is a fortified asphalt shingle roof. Mine was installed in 2003 and has survived at least 8 hurricanes including Katrina with almost no damage. Though if you can affort a steel roof, your heating and air conditioning will be more efficient.

 

[MAGAnificent]

I recall following Katrina an insurance company was refusing to pay claims, saying "most of your damage was due to flooding, and you're not covered for floods." Of course, their houses were flooded by rain AFTER Katrina blew off their roofs! Like a good neighbor . . . my ass!

Does not matter. If you live in hurricane country, you should add flood insurance.

 

[notquiteright]

Plus, asphalt shingles are made from eeeeeeee-vil fossil fuel.

Yes, far better the fossil fuel goes to all the shiny cowboy Cadillac 'duallys' I see all jacked up three feet off the ground in the Walmart parking lot....

 

[Safiel]

Florida may soon ban asphalt shingles​

I can't believe that would ever happen with a Republican Gov. and a Republican controlled Legislature.

DeSantis's own man, the State Insurance Commissioner, is pushing this.

 

[Safiel]

I think they should just regulate asphalt shingle roofs a bit tighter. A much less costly alternative to a steel roof is a fortified asphalt shingle roof. Mine was installed in 2003 and has survived at least 8 hurricanes including Katrina with almost no damage. Though if you can affort a steel roof, your heating and air conditioning will be more efficient.

I do believe Florida strengthened the nail requirements for asphalt shingles a few years back and made other changes. Yes, it should be possible to make asphalt shingles more durable, though in the long run, metal is better.

 

[MAGAnificent]

I do believe Florida strengthened the nail requirements for asphalt shingles a few years back and made other changes. Yes, it should be possible to make asphalt shingles more durable, though in the long run, metal is better.

Better for heating and cooling as well.

 

[The Mark]

You mean like hurricanes?

That is probably the main weather they're thinking of, were I to make a guess.

 

[Safiel]

Does not matter. If you live in hurricane country, you should add flood insurance.

Even in Florida, flood insurance is not always necessary. Particularly along the Atlantic Ridge which runs down the east coast of Florida. If you live on the ridge, as opposed to the coastal plain or inland plain, flood risks are negligent, even in the most severe hurricane conditions, with wind being the primary concern.

I am preparing to build a house in Jasper County, South Carolina, in the fabled South Carolina Lowcountry. The east portion of the county sits pretty low, not much above sea level. I will be on a sand ridge in the rural western portion of the county about 60 feet above sea level and well above the surrounding area. I will be building on elevated crawl space, with the actual floor level about 4 1/2 to 5 feet above the surrounding grade. Might get a couple of inches of pluvial flooding if a slow moving tropical system went through the area, which is obviously a non-concern. Fluvial, coastal and storm surge won't be an issue.

On the other hand, all the damn fools building on crawl space in Eastern Jasper County better have flood insurance.

South Carolina has a surprisingly robust storm code. Coastal houses, including my own, must be built to Category II (110 MPH) standards. Mine will be built to Category 5 standards. Including the use of metal strapping to secure the frame itself and to secure the roof to the frame. And, of course, metal roofing will be used.

 

[Revelation]

Metal works well, I have asphalt white shingles because Phoenix is a sunny hell hole for 5 months of the year, and you gotta reflect all you can.

white metal roof steel panels are available, also other colors. i have installed various roofing types, steel roofing IS superior.

 

[Lycanthrope]

I did a quick glance of the thread title and initially thought DeSantis had banned shingles vaccines in Florida.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Even in Florida, flood insurance is not always necessary. Particularly along the Atlantic Ridge which runs down the east coast of Florida. If you live on the ridge, as opposed to the coastal plain or inland plain, flood risks are negligent, even in the most severe hurricane conditions, with wind being the primary concern.

I am preparing to build a house in Jasper County, South Carolina, in the fabled South Carolina Lowcountry. The east portion of the county sits pretty low, not much above sea level. I will be on a sand ridge in the rural western portion of the county about 60 feet above sea level and well above the surrounding area. I will be building on elevated crawl space, with the actual floor level about 4 1/2 to 5 feet above the surrounding grade. Might get a couple of inches of pluvial flooding if a slow moving tropical system went through the area, which is obviously a non-concern. Fluvial, coastal and storm surge won't be an issue.

On the other hand, all the damn fools building on crawl space in Eastern Jasper County better have flood insurance.

South Carolina has a surprisingly robust storm code. Coastal houses, including my own, must be built to Category II (110 MPH) standards. Mine will be built to Category 5 standards. Including the use of metal strapping to secure the frame itself and to secure the roof to the frame. And, of course, metal roofing will be used.

Elevation does play a major part in whther or not you need to include flood insurance.

 

[Carjosse]

I did a quick glance of the thread title and initially thought DeSantis had banned shingles vaccines in Florida.

I mean it would not be that surprising of a headline.

 

[Lycanthrope]

I mean it would not be that surprising of a headline.

I think at that point far too many Florida seniors would demand Puddin' Ron be exiled to Texas. I had shingles in my early thirties and it was a bitch. I can't imagine dealing with that when I'm elderly.

 

[ttwtt78640]

The more restrictive building codes are the less affordable homes will be built. Also a 40-50 year roof makes no sense if it gets damaged in a hurricane and need to be replaced anyway. The next time I'll replace my roof I'll probably go for a metal roof. But it needs to make sense from an economic pragmatic aspect before you should do it.

Yep, cost (including maintenance) is definitely a consideration.

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[bongsaway]

I'm for it if the govt or someone subsidizes it for people. Right now, people in FL can barely get home insurance. I think the insurance industry needs a huge overhaul but it's one of the top 3 lobbies in DC and very powerful.

FL currently has tons of laws related to hurricanes. This would be a state law...and if it makes homes safer and fewer were destroyed during storms...sure. FL also has wildfires and metal roofs are better for that as well. With climate change, storms and conditions in FL are only going to geet worse.

A metal roof on a stick home doesn't do much.

 

[Safiel]

Even in Florida, flood insurance is not always necessary. Particularly along the Atlantic Ridge which runs down the east coast of Florida. If you live on the ridge, as opposed to the coastal plain or inland plain, flood risks are negligent, even in the most severe hurricane conditions, with wind being the primary concern.

I am preparing to build a house in Jasper County, South Carolina, in the fabled South Carolina Lowcountry. The east portion of the county sits pretty low, not much above sea level. I will be on a sand ridge in the rural western portion of the county about 60 feet above sea level and well above the surrounding area. I will be building on elevated crawl space, with the actual floor level about 4 1/2 to 5 feet above the surrounding grade. Might get a couple of inches of pluvial flooding if a slow moving tropical system went through the area, which is obviously a non-concern. Fluvial, coastal and storm surge won't be an issue.

On the other hand, all the damn fools building on crawl space in Eastern Jasper County better have flood insurance.

South Carolina has a surprisingly robust storm code. Coastal houses, including my own, must be built to Category II (110 MPH) standards. Mine will be built to Category 5 standards. Including the use of metal strapping to secure the frame itself and to secure the roof to the frame. And, of course, metal roofing will be used.

Replying to my own post to correct a mistake.

That should have read slab.

 

[Carjosse]

I think at that point far too many Florida seniors would demand Puddin' Ron be exiled to Texas. I had shingles in my early thirties and it was a bitch. I can't imagine dealing with that when I'm elderly.

You underestimate Florida. They are the state that elected Desantis in the first place.

 

[Grand Mal]

Yeah I know it’s hard to tell sarcasm from actual MAGA positions these days, but I should have had a /s after that to make it clear.

Sorry, sometimes I don't pay close enough attention.

 

[uptower]

If Desantis hears that he will ban metal roofs as woke.

And Gay

 

[SavannahMann]

Florida may soon ban asphalt shingles​

I can't believe that would ever happen with a Republican Gov. and a Republican controlled Legislature.

Well if a metal roof manufacturer donated to them they would wear out the knees on several pairs of suit pants to give the donor what he wanted.

 

[LouC]

DeSantis's own man, the State Insurance Commissioner, is pushing this.

Follow the Money!

 

[LouC]

Well if a metal roof manufacturer donated to them they would wear out the knees on several pairs of suit pants to give the donor what he wanted.

Follow the Money!