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Floods, fires and deadly heat are the alarm bells of a planet on the brink

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“The world is hotter than it’s been in thousands of years, and it’s as if every alarm bell on Earth were ringing.
The warnings are echoing through the drenched mountains of Vermont, where two months of rain just fell in only two days. India and Japan were deluged by extreme flooding.
They’re blaring from the scorching streets of Texas, Florida, Spain and China, with a severe heat wave also building in Phoenix and the Southwest in coming days.
They’re burbling up from the oceans, where temperatures have surged to levels considered “beyond extreme.”
And they’re showing up in unprecedented, still-burning wildfires in Canada that have sent plumes of dangerous smoke into the United States.
Scientists say there is no question that this cacophony was caused by climate change — or that it will continue to intensify as the planet warms. Research shows that human greenhouse gas emissions, particularly from burning fossil fuels, have raised Earth’s temperature by about 1.2 degrees Celsius (2.2 Fahrenheit) above preindustrial levels. Unless humanity radically transforms the way people travel, generate energy and produce food, the global average temperature is on track to increase by more than 3 degrees Celsius (5.4 Fahrenheit), according to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change — unleashing catastrophes that will make this year’s disasters seem mild.
They’re blaring from the scorching streets of Texas, Florida, Spain and China, with a severe heat wave also building in Phoenix and the Southwest in coming days.
They’re burbling up from the oceans, where temperatures have surged to levels considered “beyond extreme.”
And they’re showing up in unprecedented, still-burning wildfires in Canada that have sent plumes of dangerous smoke into the United States.
Scientists say there is no question that this cacophony was caused by climate change — or that it will continue to intensify as the planet warms. Research shows that human greenhouse gas emissions, particularly from burning fossil fuels, have raised Earth’s temperature by about 1.2 degrees Celsius (2.2 Fahrenheit) above preindustrial levels. Unless humanity radically transforms the way people travel, generate energy and produce food, the global average temperature is on track to increase by more than 3 degrees Celsius (5.4 Fahrenheit), according to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change — unleashing catastrophes that will make this year’s disasters seem mild.”


Nah, there’s no global warming.
 
Yep, global warming is real and China is the largest contributor of GHG emissions. What’s the plan to change that?

“China’s climate change strategy has evolved significantly over the last decade and in September 2020 China’s president Xi Jinping announced that the country would aim to be carbon-neutral by 2060. This was seen as a significant step for the country and for global climate action.

Previously, climate policy was included in China’s energy consumption and economic development policy, but from around 2010 China began to formulate specific mitigation and adaptation policies. These are included in China’s Five-Year Plans (as well as other documents), which are where the Chinese Communist Party sets out its social and economic development initiatives. Its 12th Five-Year Plan, for 2011–2015, set out energy- and climate-related national targets for the first time. These included a 16% reduction in energy intensity (the quantity of energy consumed per unit of gross domestic product [GDP]) and a 17% reduction in carbon intensity (the amount of carbon dioxide emissions per unit of GDP) over the period.

Coal still dominates China’s energy mix, although its share in the country’s primary energy consumption reduced over the last decade, from 69.2% in 2010 to 56.8% in 2020. This is still high when compared internationally. China is investing heavily in renewable energy and its cumulative installed wind capacity accounted for 39% of the global share and its solar capacity for 36% in 2020. In June 2022, a new plan set out targets to increase total renewable energy consumption to 1 billion tonnes of standard coal equivalent (tce) (from 0.68 billion tce in 2020) and the share of non-fossil fuel energy to 20% of primary energy consumption by 2025 (from 15.9% in 2020), which could help reduce carbon emissions by an estimated 2.6 billion tonnes annually. China has also committed to stop building new coal power plants abroad.

China’s government has invested heavily in the development and rollout of electric vehicles, and has provided significant subsidies and incentives to the sector. By June 2022 there were nearly 10 million new energy vehicles (NEVs) in the country, which include battery electric, plug-in hybrid and fuel cell vehicles, more than half the world’s estimated total of 16 million. China published an industry development plan in 2020 to further support the NEV industry and improve its market competitiveness.

 
“China’s climate change strategy has evolved significantly over the last decade and in September 2020 China’s president Xi Jinping announced that the country would aim to be carbon-neutral by 2060. This was seen as a significant step for the country and for global climate action.

Previously, climate policy was included in China’s energy consumption and economic development policy, but from around 2010 China began to formulate specific mitigation and adaptation policies. These are included in China’s Five-Year Plans (as well as other documents), which are where the Chinese Communist Party sets out its social and economic development initiatives. Its 12th Five-Year Plan, for 2011–2015, set out energy- and climate-related national targets for the first time. These included a 16% reduction in energy intensity (the quantity of energy consumed per unit of gross domestic product [GDP]) and a 17% reduction in carbon intensity (the amount of carbon dioxide emissions per unit of GDP) over the period.

Coal still dominates China’s energy mix, although its share in the country’s primary energy consumption reduced over the last decade, from 69.2% in 2010 to 56.8% in 2020. This is still high when compared internationally. China is investing heavily in renewable energy and its cumulative installed wind capacity accounted for 39% of the global share and its solar capacity for 36% in 2020. In June 2022, a new plan set out targets to increase total renewable energy consumption to 1 billion tonnes of standard coal equivalent (tce) (from 0.68 billion tce in 2020) and the share of non-fossil fuel energy to 20% of primary energy consumption by 2025 (from 15.9% in 2020), which could help reduce carbon emissions by an estimated 2.6 billion tonnes annually. China has also committed to stop building new coal power plants abroad.

China’s government has invested heavily in the development and rollout of electric vehicles, and has provided significant subsidies and incentives to the sector. By June 2022 there were nearly 10 million new energy vehicles (NEVs) in the country, which include battery electric, plug-in hybrid and fuel cell vehicles, more than half the world’s estimated total of 16 million. China published an industry development plan in 2020 to further support the NEV industry and improve its market competitiveness.


OK, that’s the plan or goal, but what is reality?




 
OK, but what would you recommend be done?

Same standard sealioning question that we always get from the deniers. They are not engaging in serious discussion, they’re just playing sealion games.
 
Same standard sealioning question that we always get from the deniers. They are not engaging in serious discussion, they’re just playing sealion games.

What “serious discussion” (of a solution) was offered? I suppose you count “doing something about it” as being a “serious discussion”, yet asking what that something might be isn’t.

BTW, what did I deny?
 
What “serious discussion” (of a solution) was offered? I suppose you count “doing something about it” as being a “serious discussion”, yet asking what that something might be isn’t.

BTW, what did I deny?

Sometimes I think threads like these are meant to ridicule those some believe to be "deniers", rather than to have a serious discussion.
 
Sometimes I think threads like these are meant to ridicule those some believe to be "deniers", rather than to have a serious discussion.

They appear to be meant to virtue signal (show genuine concern?) about global warming (aka climate change) without offering any hint as to how the nation doing the most damage to the global climate is able to increase that damage with impunity. If anyone dare ask a question about that fact, they are ‘dismissed’ as being a ‘denier’.
 
“China’s climate change strategy has evolved significantly over the last decade and in September 2020 China’s president Xi Jinping announced that the country would aim to be carbon-neutral by 2060. This was seen as a significant step for the country and for global climate action.

Previously, climate policy was included in China’s energy consumption and economic development policy, but from around 2010 China began to formulate specific mitigation and adaptation policies. These are included in China’s Five-Year Plans (as well as other documents), which are where the Chinese Communist Party sets out its social and economic development initiatives. Its 12th Five-Year Plan, for 2011–2015, set out energy- and climate-related national targets for the first time. These included a 16% reduction in energy intensity (the quantity of energy consumed per unit of gross domestic product [GDP]) and a 17% reduction in carbon intensity (the amount of carbon dioxide emissions per unit of GDP) over the period.

Coal still dominates China’s energy mix, although its share in the country’s primary energy consumption reduced over the last decade, from 69.2% in 2010 to 56.8% in 2020. This is still high when compared internationally. China is investing heavily in renewable energy and its cumulative installed wind capacity accounted for 39% of the global share and its solar capacity for 36% in 2020. In June 2022, a new plan set out targets to increase total renewable energy consumption to 1 billion tonnes of standard coal equivalent (tce) (from 0.68 billion tce in 2020) and the share of non-fossil fuel energy to 20% of primary energy consumption by 2025 (from 15.9% in 2020), which could help reduce carbon emissions by an estimated 2.6 billion tonnes annually. China has also committed to stop building new coal power plants abroad.

China’s government has invested heavily in the development and rollout of electric vehicles, and has provided significant subsidies and incentives to the sector. By June 2022 there were nearly 10 million new energy vehicles (NEVs) in the country, which include battery electric, plug-in hybrid and fuel cell vehicles, more than half the world’s estimated total of 16 million. China published an industry development plan in 2020 to further support the NEV industry and improve its market competitiveness.

The earth has heated up a whooping 2.2F since the "pre-industrial period'? That was, what, 130-150 years ago? Any amount of heating barely perceptible to humans.
Hotest temperature EVER? What nonsense. How can a single number prove anything about the state of the climate over a planet whose surface comprises hundreds of millions of square miles.
 
Sometimes I think threads like these are meant to ridicule those some believe to be "deniers", rather than to have a serious discussion.
That's precisely what they are.

And they even announce it, as the OP did here, ridiculing "deniers." "Nah, there’s no global warming."

And then this tidbit of inanity towards @ttwtt78640 's simple, honest question: "What would you recommend be done?":

Same standard sealioning question that we always get from the deniers. They are not engaging in serious discussion, they’re just playing sealion games.
I mean, c'mon - "not engaging in serious discussion???" Good grief - @ttwtt78640 even acknowledged climate change in post #2 of the thread, but because he asked the OP what his solution was, he STILL gets labeled a "denier."

The OP posts a bunch of stories about current indicators supposedly "proving" climate change but has yet to provide one single solution of his own to the problem.

So, these threads aren't about "serious discussions" at all - they're merely opportunities to flame bait anyone remotely to the right of them politically.
 
What “serious discussion” (of a solution) was offered? I suppose you count “doing something about it” as being a “serious discussion”, yet asking what that something might be isn’t.

BTW, what did I deny?
You denied nothing. Indeed, you did just the opposite - acknowledging global warming.

I'm flabbergasted the OP dared even use the phrase "sealioning" on you. smh.
 
Yep, global warming is real and China is the largest contributor of (global) GHG emissions. What’s the plan to change that?
All we can do is act like responsible adults in our own lives and severely restrict and reduce our own use of fossil fuels. That should be all our plans.

As for China, we can't point the finger at them when we're not even able to meet our own emissions goals. Our hypocrisy cannot influence them in any positive way. When the western developed nations - especially the USA - gets their houses in order, then global sanctions can have a real influence on Chinese policy.
 
What “serious discussion” (of a solution) was offered? I suppose you count “doing something about it” as being a “serious discussion”, yet asking what that something might be isn’t.

They appear to be meant to virtue signal (show genuine concern?) about global warming (aka climate change) without offering any hint as to how the nation doing the most damage to the global climate is able to increase that damage with impunity. If anyone dare ask a question about that fact, they are ‘dismissed’ as being a ‘denier’.

Sealioning is “people who troll online by pretending to ask sincere questions, but just keep feigning ignorance and repeating 'polite' follow ups until someone gets fed up. That way, they can cast their opponents as attacking them and being unreasonable. It's pretty common on comment sections of weather blogs re: climate change.”


Point proven.
 
Sometimes I think threads like these are meant to ridicule those some believe to be "deniers", rather than to have a serious discussion.

If the deniers are unwilling or unable to have a serious discussion about the matter, then ridicule is well deserved.
 
The earth has heated up a whooping 2.2F since the "pre-industrial period'? That was, what, 130-150 years ago? Any amount of heating barely perceptible to humans.
Hotest temperature EVER? What nonsense. How can a single number prove anything about the state of the climate over a planet whose surface comprises hundreds of millions of square miles.

How much area is in the atmosphere? What affect do,you think that 2.2F will have over that much area?
 
That's precisely what they are.

And they even announce it, as the OP did here, ridiculing "deniers." "Nah, there’s no global warming."

And then this tidbit of inanity towards @ttwtt78640 's simple, honest question: "What would you recommend be done?":


I mean, c'mon - "not engaging in serious discussion???" Good grief - @ttwtt78640 even acknowledged climate change in post #2 of the thread, but because he asked the OP what his solution was, he STILL gets labeled a "denier."

The OP posts a bunch of stories about current indicators supposedly "proving" climate change but has yet to provide one single solution of his own to the problem.

So, these threads aren't about "serious discussions" at all - they're merely opportunities to flame bait anyone remotely to the right of them politically.

See post #16. Read the last sentence as quoted from the article.
 
“China’s climate change strategy has evolved significantly over the last decade and in September 2020 China’s president Xi Jinping announced that the country would aim to be carbon-neutral by 2060. This was seen as a significant step for the country and for global climate action.

Previously, climate policy was included in China’s energy consumption and economic development policy, but from around 2010 China began to formulate specific mitigation and adaptation policies. These are included in China’s Five-Year Plans (as well as other documents), which are where the Chinese Communist Party sets out its social and economic development initiatives. Its 12th Five-Year Plan, for 2011–2015, set out energy- and climate-related national targets for the first time. These included a 16% reduction in energy intensity (the quantity of energy consumed per unit of gross domestic product [GDP]) and a 17% reduction in carbon intensity (the amount of carbon dioxide emissions per unit of GDP) over the period.

Coal still dominates China’s energy mix, although its share in the country’s primary energy consumption reduced over the last decade, from 69.2% in 2010 to 56.8% in 2020. This is still high when compared internationally. China is investing heavily in renewable energy and its cumulative installed wind capacity accounted for 39% of the global share and its solar capacity for 36% in 2020. In June 2022, a new plan set out targets to increase total renewable energy consumption to 1 billion tonnes of standard coal equivalent (tce) (from 0.68 billion tce in 2020) and the share of non-fossil fuel energy to 20% of primary energy consumption by 2025 (from 15.9% in 2020), which could help reduce carbon emissions by an estimated 2.6 billion tonnes annually. China has also committed to stop building new coal power plants abroad.

China’s government has invested heavily in the development and rollout of electric vehicles, and has provided significant subsidies and incentives to the sector. By June 2022 there were nearly 10 million new energy vehicles (NEVs) in the country, which include battery electric, plug-in hybrid and fuel cell vehicles, more than half the world’s estimated total of 16 million. China published an industry development plan in 2020 to further support the NEV industry and improve its market competitiveness.

China has been building coal fired energy plants.
 
How much area is in the atmosphere? What affect do,you think that 2.2F will have over that much area?
"Will have"? It was since the start of the industrial age.
 
All we can do is act like responsible adults in our own lives and severely restrict and reduce our own use of fossil fuels. That should be all our plans.

As for China, we can't point the finger at them when we're not even able to meet our own emissions goals. Our hypocrisy cannot influence them in any positive way. When the western developed nations - especially the USA - gets their houses in order, then global sanctions can have a real influence on Chinese policy.

OK, but the US and some other nations are reducing their GHG emissions, while China is profiting from those efforts while increasing their own (thus global) GHG emissions.

Labelling me as a ‘denier‘ while I am simply pointing out those facts is ridiculous as well as dishonest. If find it hypocritical for the US to claim to be ‘going green’ while at the same time becoming more dependent on other nations (especially China) to supply the means to do so as they increase global GHG emissions in the process.
 
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