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Flat Wages for the middle and working class - what to do?

I am not the "left". I am a person. The "left" does not speak with one voice. And labor unions fight for better wages and benefits for the working man....CEO's fight against that

The ability of the unsubstantial people to gather and unite had to be squashed. Go back and look at the 1930's and the aftermath of the depression, the public certainly "got it" then. Our version of capitalism is cancerous; growth for the sake of growth until the host is destroyed. What we call capitalism is in reality colonialism and wealth extraction, same as it ever was. The goal of any capitalist corporation is to force labor costs as close to zero as is legally, or illegally if you can get away with it, as possible.
 
I am not the "left". I am a person. The "left" does not speak with one voice. And labor unions fight for better wages and benefits for the working man....CEO's fight against that

Hate to break it to you but the left has one ideology and the right has another. If you have a left ideology then you are a lefty, no matter how much you claim you are just a person. Please tell me all of the right policies that you favor. Labor unions pander to the poor to make themselves rich, just like many Democrats do. One could argue that the right fights for jobs for the poor by not having a minimum wage that is too high and that they fight for higher wages for the working poor by giving tax cuts to the rich and cutting back entitlement programs, increasing jobs, and decreasing unemployment, which in turn tightens up the labor market, forcing wages higher. The right wants to increase a poor person's self worth by giving them a higher paying job and not living off the government or taxpayers.
 
Hate to break it to you but the left has one ideology and the right has another. If you have a left ideology then you are a lefty, no matter how much you claim you are just a person. Please tell me all of the right policies that you favor. Labor unions pander to the poor to make themselves rich, just like many Democrats do. One could argue that the right fights for jobs for the poor by not having a minimum wage that is too high and that they fight for higher wages for the working poor by giving tax cuts to the rich and cutting back entitlement programs, increasing jobs, and decreasing unemployment, which in turn tightens up the labor market, forcing wages higher. The right wants to increase a poor person's self worth by giving them a higher paying job and not living off the government or taxpayers.

It is convenient to put people in little boxes....its just not accurate.

Right wing policies I support IF DONE RIGHT

Death penalty
torture of prisoners of war or terrorists
Ending Isis thru increased bombing
 
CEO Pay Has Grown 90 Times Faster than Typical Worker Pay Since 1978
CEO Pay Has Grown 90 Times Faster than Typical Worker Pay Since 1978 | Economic Policy Institute

Gonna go tits up, just a matter of time.

You don't think I've seen those same stats posted one million times before by lefties? I don't need any links showing your partisanship. I've heard all of the lefty's arguments over and over and over again until the point I have to puke every time I see one of you post the same crap yet again for the one million and oneth time. Pardon me while I go throw up yet again.
 
Hate to break it to you but the left has one ideology and the right has another. If you have a left ideology then you are a lefty, no matter how much you claim you are just a person. Please tell me all of the right policies that you favor. Labor unions pander to the poor to make themselves rich, just like many Democrats do. One could argue that the right fights for jobs for the poor by not having a minimum wage that is too high and that they fight for higher wages for the working poor by giving tax cuts to the rich and cutting back entitlement programs, increasing jobs, and decreasing unemployment, which in turn tightens up the labor market, forcing wages higher. The right wants to increase a poor person's self worth by giving them a higher paying job and not living off the government or taxpayers.

"Left" versus "right" is a ruse, your system is as follows:

Privatized gains versus socialized losses for the Wall Street bankster class
Internalized profit versus externalized risk and expense for the "job creator" class
Socialism for the arostocracy versus laissez-faire capitalism for the masses

The power structure determined long ago it no longer required american workers for production. Then it determined it no longer required american workers for consumption either. Capital is colonial and capital is simply moving on to greener more exploitable pastures.

We live in this colonial authoritarian society. It arrived on this land mass from another land it had already rolled over after brutally subjugating the tribes of Europe. Then it “discovered” this “new world”, eradicated the people present, took over the land, imported slaves from Africa, and colonized this land mass, also for the pleasure of a male dominator god and his most affluent well connected adherents, to the detriment of society at large. “New world”, same disease; material gluttony and an inability to understand one’s biological place in the natural world. But alas, the world has so much natural wealth to be horded, the peasants be damned, let them eat cake. And the expansion continues, others must be vilified in the minds of the masses, oh thy name sweet "Capitalism".
 
You don't think I've seen those same stats posted one million times before by lefties? I don't need any links showing your partisanship. I've heard all of the lefty's arguments over and over and over again until the point I have to puke every time I see one of you post the same crap yet again for the one million and oneth time. Pardon me while I go throw up yet again.

This society makes most of us sick like that, I get it. It IS disgusting. And I figured you for one of those folks who slings labels so he doens't have to deal with ideas.
 
It is convenient to put people in little boxes....its just not accurate.

Right wing policies I support IF DONE RIGHT

Death penalty
torture of prisoners of war or terrorists
Ending Isis thru increased bombing

Thanks for at least posting those. Ironically, I disagree with you on the first two. But, most of what I believe slants right and most of what you believe slants left. I don't make the rules. That's just the way it is. If 90% of what you believe slants one way or the other, then that is what you are.
 
Thanks for at least posting those. Ironically, I disagree with you on the first two. But, most of what I believe slants right and most of what you believe slants left. I don't make the rules. That's just the way it is. If 90% of what you believe slants one way or the other, then that is what you are.

Put me in whatever little box you need to
 
Thanks for at least posting those. Ironically, I disagree with you on the first two. But, most of what I believe slants right and most of what you believe slants left. I don't make the rules. That's just the way it is. If 90% of what you believe slants one way or the other, then that is what you are.

The power structure runs on this sodomization of reality.

https://needtoknow.news/2017/07/trump-team-parties-soros-koch-schumer-hamptons/

Out and about in the Hamptons at Lally Weymouth's annual party - POLITICO

Meanwhile, Spotted Together At A Party In The Hamptons? | CSGlobe
 
"Left" versus "right" is a ruse, your system is as follows:

Privatized gains versus socialized losses for the Wall Street bankster class
Internalized profit versus externalized risk and expense for the "job creator" class
Socialism for the arostocracy versus laissez-faire capitalism for the masses

The power structure determined long ago it no longer required american workers for production. Then it determined it no longer required american workers for consumption either. Capital is colonial and capital is simply moving on to greener more exploitable pastures.

We live in this colonial authoritarian society. It arrived on this land mass from another land it had already rolled over after brutally subjugating the tribes of Europe. Then it “discovered” this “new world”, eradicated the people present, took over the land, imported slaves from Africa, and colonized this land mass, also for the pleasure of a male dominator god and his most affluent well connected adherents, to the detriment of society at large. “New world”, same disease; material gluttony and an inability to understand one’s biological place in the natural world. But alas, the world has so much natural wealth to be horded, the peasants be damned, let them eat cake. And the expansion continues, others must be vilified in the minds of the masses, oh thy name sweet "Capitalism".

Those are just biased left wing talking points to stir up the masses. Under every single recent Democratic president the rich have gotten richer and the poor have gotten poorer. While the left has noble talking points, their policies always fail to reach their objectives and when they do they blame it on a Republican president.
 
Those are just biased left wing talking points to stir up the masses. Under every single recent Democratic president the rich have gotten richer and the poor have gotten poorer. While the left has noble talking points, their policies always fail to reach their objectives and when they do they blame it on a Republican president.
Is a president the emperor? Who controls the purse strings?
 
This society makes most of us sick like that, I get it. It IS disgusting. And I figured you for one of those folks who slings labels so he doens't have to deal with ideas.

Finally, something I agree with. Society has been so sickening that people voted Trump president and have sent the Democrats packing for six years now.
 
Put me in whatever little box you need to

People are in the box they are in. Other's don't put them there. They are who they are. I am who I am and you are who you are. I'm willing to admit as to who I am. You are not. You claim to be some sort of moderate/centrist and yet most of what you believe in are lefty policies and liberal/socialistic societies such as in the EU. I really don't understand why you are so embarrassed to admit which way you lean.
 

???????????? Are you trying to prove my point that the country needs to get rid of both Democrats and Republicans and that there is no difference between a rich CEO and a rich Labor Union leader?
 
???????????? Are you trying to prove my point that the country needs to get rid of both Democrats and Republicans and that there is no difference between a rich CEO and a rich Labor Union leader?

Your "left" versus "right" perceptual reality is a lie son, locate a point.
 

I'm not going to read any more of your links so please stop posting them. Both sides can present cherry picked links proving their points for the rest of eternity. I'm not immortal and don't have the time to read or post cherry picked stuff back and forth until one of us finally dies of old age and the other can claim victory. All it does is prove never ending political bias and partisanship.
 
Yes, you do.

I'm willing to admit that I lean right. I am not embarrassed to admit that I lean that way. It is ridiculous of the left to try claiming they are not partisan when they clearly are. If you favor liberal/socialistic policies then that is what you are, even if someone is not 100%.
 
Your "left" versus "right" perceptual reality is a lie son, locate a point.

There has been a left vs right since Cavepersons roamed the planet. See, I can also be "politically correct". Now I can claim that I'm a lefty.
 
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