FLASHBACK: 30 years ago, Nancy Pelosi demanded Congress confront Chinese tariffs on American goods

[libertyrose]

FLASHBACK: 30 years ago, Nancy Pelosi demanded Congress confront Chinese tariffs on American goods​

An old video of Rep. Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., urging Congress to retaliate against China’s tariffs against the United States is going viral for how much it sounds like President Donald Trump’s current tariff policies.

The video, recorded on the House floor in June 1996, featured the lawmaker urging her colleagues to fight against the "status quo" trade policies that had contributed to America’s trade deficit with China. She specifically called on lawmakers to address the fact that American tariffs on Chinese goods paled in comparison to Chinese tariffs on U.S. goods.

"In terms of tariffs, it’s interesting to note that the average U.S. MFN [Most Favored Nation] tariff on Chinese goods coming into the United States is two percent, whereas the average MFN tariff on U.S. goods going into China is 35 percent."

The congresswoman asked, "Is that reciprocal?" She also went on to call the U.S.-China trade relationship a "job loser."..................

FLASHBACK: 30 years ago, Nancy Pelosi demanded Congress confront Chinese tariffs on American goods

Old videos show Rep. Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., and Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., defending the use of U.S. tariffs to protect U.S. workers, while today they oppose Trump's tariffs.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Jetboogieman]

A tariff strategy against China is not inherently bad if there is yah know, a strategy.

Tariffs can be a tool when combined with industrial policy that can be effective if there is a specific industry that you wish to address.

I have no problem with trying to curb Chinas rise and to temper its ambition.

But to do so requires smart strategy and it requires allies and instead what do we get?

Blanket tariffs on China AND on your allies (as well as the rest of the world), as well as threatening the sovereign territory of some of those allies with annexation...

So I'm not sure what's accomplished by bringing this up.

 

[Athanasius68]

The thing here is that the Democrats have long been the party of protectionism and tariffs.
The GOP has expropriated that issue from them.
There really isn't a free trade party in the USA.

Just heard, I believe Stephen Miller being interviewed about the tariffs. Whoever it was, this White House aide was talking about slave labor in Vietnam, "a race to the bottom" etc. that these tariffs were designed to fight.
We would have heard the same from an aide to a President Harris.

 

[Fearandloathing]

A tariff strategy against China is not inherently bad if there is yah know, a strategy.

Tariffs can be a tool when combined with industrial policy that can be effective if there is a specific industry that you wish to address.

I have no problem with trying to curb Chinas rise and to temper is ambition.

But to do so requires smart strategy and it requires allies and instead what do we get?

Blanket tariffs on China AND on your allies (as well as the rest of the world), as well as threatening the sovereign territory of some of those allies with annexation...

So I'm not sure what's accomplished by bringing this up.

And Trump's "strategy" is destroy America and buy up the left overs?

It also requires partners, you know, friends.

With Trump that is a non starter. Anyone backing his play cannot be trusted.

 

[Eriech]

FLASHBACK: 30 years ago, Nancy Pelosi demanded Congress confront Chinese tariffs on American goods​

An old video of Rep. Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., urging Congress to retaliate against China’s tariffs against the United States is going viral for how much it sounds like President Donald Trump’s current tariff policies.

The video, recorded on the House floor in June 1996, featured the lawmaker urging her colleagues to fight against the "status quo" trade policies that had contributed to America’s trade deficit with China. She specifically called on lawmakers to address the fact that American tariffs on Chinese goods paled in comparison to Chinese tariffs on U.S. goods.

"In terms of tariffs, it’s interesting to note that the average U.S. MFN [Most Favored Nation] tariff on Chinese goods coming into the United States is two percent, whereas the average MFN tariff on U.S. goods going into China is 35 percent."

The congresswoman asked, "Is that reciprocal?" She also went on to call the U.S.-China trade relationship a "job loser."..................

FLASHBACK: 30 years ago, Nancy Pelosi demanded Congress confront Chinese tariffs on American goods

Old videos show Rep. Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., and Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., defending the use of U.S. tariffs to protect U.S. workers, while today they oppose Trump's tariffs.

www.foxnews.com

Schumer too, not that long ago

 

[What if...?]

A tariff strategy against China is not inherently bad if there is yah know, a strategy.

Tariffs can be a tool when combined with industrial policy that can be effective if there is a specific industry that you wish to address.

I have no problem with trying to curb Chinas rise and to temper its ambition.

But to do so requires smart strategy and it requires allies and instead what do we get?

Blanket tariffs on China AND on your allies (as well as the rest of the world), as well as threatening the sovereign territory of some of those allies with annexation...

So I'm not sure what's accomplished by bringing this up.

And penguins.

Don’t forget the tariffs on them.

 

[Bok Tuklo]

 

[Mr Person]

MAGA who claims to be "very conservative" says the fact that Democrat once suggested use of strategic tariffs against China means that any amount of tariffs on any amount of countries for any reason is perfectly fine. This MAGA also puts "liberty" in their account name.

I like when a DP newbie (or as is often the case, a returner in disguise) shows what to expect from them in their early posts, @libertyrose

That's the one thing I can thank you for




As for the rest, the following is more than it deserves:

The thing here is that the Democrats have long been the party of protectionism and tariffs.
The GOP has expropriated that issue from them.
There really isn't a free trade party in the USA.

Just heard, I believe Stephen Miller being interviewed about the tariffs. Whoever it was, this White House aide was talking about slave labor in Vietnam, "a race to the bottom" etc. that these tariffs were designed to fight.
We would have heard the same from an aide to a President Harris.

And then a usual suspect, not to be left out of imaginary lib-owning, chimes in by saying that really this is all the Democrats' fault.

 

[VanceMack]

Schumer too, not that long ago

The leftist politicians are all just raging piece of shit hypocrites. They are content with watching the country suffer if it means they can score political points...and they know the mindless rat party voters won't question any of it.

 

[BitterPill]

The leftist politicians are all just raging piece of shit hypocrites. They are content with watching the country suffer if it means they can score political points...and they know the mindless rat party voters won't question any of it.

Those rat bastards hate MAGA so much they revel in our suffering

WE ARE THE VICTIMS!

MAGA.

 

[What if...?]

The leftist politicians are all just raging piece of shit hypocrites. They are content with watching the country suffer if it means they can score political points...and they know the mindless rat party voters won't question any of it.

When were we suffering?

Everything seemed pretty normal until the Orange Clown took office.

Now America is a dumpster fire.

Thanks MAGA.

 

[Mycroft]

A tariff strategy against China is not inherently bad if there is yah know, a strategy.

Tariffs can be a tool when combined with industrial policy that can be effective if there is a specific industry that you wish to address.

I have no problem with trying to curb Chinas rise and to temper its ambition.

But to do so requires smart strategy and it requires allies and instead what do we get?

Blanket tariffs on China AND on your allies (as well as the rest of the world), as well as threatening the sovereign territory of some of those allies with annexation...

So I'm not sure what's accomplished by bringing this up.

The problem now is that, because of inaction over the last 40 years, not only do we have problems with China, but we also have problems with our "allies".

During Trump's first term, he focused on the larger problem...China. But he also had intentions to deal with our allies, especially the EU, too. Well, we know he got interrupted and things got much worse during that interruption so now he has to deal with ALL of it as quickly as possible.

That's what he's doing right now.

 

[libertyrose]

MAGA who claims to be "very conservative" says the fact that Democrat once suggested use of strategic tariffs against China means that any amount of tariffs on any amount of countries for any reason is perfectly fine. This MAGA also puts "liberty" in their account name.

I like when a DP newbie (or as is often the case, a returner in disguise) shows what to expect from them in their early posts, @libertyrose

That's the one thing I can thank you for




As for the rest, the following is more than it deserves:







And then a usual suspect, not to be left out of imaginary lib-owning, chimes in by saying that really this is all the Democrats' fault.

So explain how you conclude that all conservatives are MAGA?? Returner in disguise? No. Actually I have been a member of a pretty conservative forum for quite a few years. I wanted to get different perspectives and like to read ideas of others and so I'm partaking in this forum.

I sense hostility directed at me which is both sad and silly -- you don't know me and I just started posting in here. To each his own.

 

[Luce]

So explain how you conclude that all conservatives are MAGA??

No conservatives are MAGA. MAGA is populism, and no conservative would go for that sort of weak-sister idolatry.

 

[BitterPill]

FLASHBACK: 30 years ago, Nancy Pelosi demanded Congress confront Chinese tariffs on American goods​

An old video of Rep. Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., urging Congress to retaliate against China’s tariffs against the United States is going viral for how much it sounds like President Donald Trump’s current tariff policies.

The video, recorded on the House floor in June 1996, featured the lawmaker urging her colleagues to fight against the "status quo" trade policies that had contributed to America’s trade deficit with China. She specifically called on lawmakers to address the fact that American tariffs on Chinese goods paled in comparison to Chinese tariffs on U.S. goods.

"In terms of tariffs, it’s interesting to note that the average U.S. MFN [Most Favored Nation] tariff on Chinese goods coming into the United States is two percent, whereas the average MFN tariff on U.S. goods going into China is 35 percent."

The congresswoman asked, "Is that reciprocal?" She also went on to call the U.S.-China trade relationship a "job loser."..................

FLASHBACK: 30 years ago, Nancy Pelosi demanded Congress confront Chinese tariffs on American goods

Old videos show Rep. Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., and Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., defending the use of U.S. tariffs to protect U.S. workers, while today they oppose Trump's tariffs.

www.foxnews.com

Pelosi is an abject failure, and her 30 year-old clip doesn't even mention tariffs on Cambodia or penguins because she is a DEI LOSER!

Your attempted normalization of Nancy will long be remembered by our MAGAsphere.

Schumer too, not that long ago

Another DEI loser being elevated - makes me sick.

Please do not do that.

MAGA.

 

[btthegreat]

A tariff strategy against China is not inherently bad if there is yah know, a strategy.

Tariffs can be a tool when combined with industrial policy that can be effective if there is a specific industry that you wish to address.

I have no problem with trying to curb Chinas rise and to temper its ambition.

But to do so requires smart strategy and it requires allies and instead what do we get?

Blanket tariffs on China AND on your allies (as well as the rest of the world), as well as threatening the sovereign territory of some of those allies with annexation...

So I'm not sure what's accomplished by bringing this up.

Or we could make the point that Pelosi was arguing for CONGRESS to act as a deliberative body who's job it is to consider such tariffs in a bill that gets written in a committee and amended in committee, and sent to a House floor for even more amending, and then goes to the Senate committee which amends it, and sends it to the Senate floor for more deliberation, and then if it passes it goes to conference for more consideration... She was not arguing for tariffs by executive order,

 

[Athanasius68]

Or we could make the point that Pelosi was arguing for CONGRESS to act as a deliberative body who's job it is to consider such tariffs in a bill that gets written in a committee and amended in committee, and sent to a House floor for even more amending, and then goes to the Senate committee which amends it, and sends it to the Senate floor for more deliberation, and then if it passes it goes to conference for more consideration... She was not arguing for tariffs by executive order,

Did Ms. Pelosi OPPOSE tariffs by Executive order?
She was Speaker a few times. What did she do to remove that Congressionally delegated authority from the president?

 

[Gimmesometruth]

The thing here is that the Democrats have long been the party of protectionism and tariffs.
The GOP has expropriated that issue from them.
There really isn't a free trade party in the USA.

Just heard, I believe Stephen Miller being interviewed about the tariffs. Whoever it was, this White House aide was talking about slave labor in Vietnam, "a race to the bottom" etc. that these tariffs were designed to fight.
We would have heard the same from an aide to a President Harris.

As in everything fascists MAGA's say and do, they will argue in absolutes. If liberals argued for any kind of tariff, fascists MAGA's get to claim that what they are doing is what liberals wanted.

This gives them cover for all kinds of rhetoric.

 

[Athanasius68]

So explain how you conclude that all conservatives are MAGA?? Returner in disguise? No. Actually I have been a member of a pretty conservative forum for quite a few years. I wanted to get different perspectives and like to read ideas of others and so I'm partaking in this forum.

I sense hostility directed at me which is both sad and silly -- you don't know me and I just started posting in here. To each his own.

Don't worry about it. The problem that the progressives are having in dealing with Trump is that he expropriated many of their ideas, and they yet don't know what to do about it, short of yelling 'fascist.'

Look at post #18.

 

[Gimmesometruth]

Did Ms. Pelosi OPPOSE tariffs by Executive order?
She was Speaker a few times. What did she do to remove that Congressionally delegated authority from the president?

"See....liberals did it tooooooo!"

 

[Athanasius68]

"See....liberals did it tooooooo!"

Post #19

 

[iliveonramen]

The leftist politicians are all just raging piece of shit hypocrites. They are content with watching the country suffer if it means they can score political points...and they know the mindless rat party voters won't question any of it.

Tariffs would have been fine if they weren't written by a moron that places tariffs on uninhabited islands.

Tariffs would have been fine if they didn't put 26% tariffs on countries that have ZERO TARIFFS ON THE US.

Tariffs would have been fine if there was some sort of policy to offset the pain of them.

Tariffs would have been fine if there was some sort of goal or time frame listed so we knew what to expect.

Tariffs would have been....well you get the idea.

I may be open to the idea that US trade needs to be re-evaluated but I'm not open to the idea of basically ruining the US economy and international standing with the kind of policy that a four year old would come up with.

As for mindless, if you're happy watching everything burn then I'm assuming you don't have a pot to piss in right now. This isn't going to improve anything in your life.

 

[Gimmesometruth]

Post #19

Geez, did all that just scramble your ability to respond?

That was easy.

 

[btthegreat]

Did Ms. Pelosi OPPOSE tariffs by Executive order?
She was Speaker a few times. What did she do to remove that Congressionally delegated authority from the president?

First start naming the executive orders assigning such tariffs unilaterally. Then we can look and see if she was Speaker at the time.

 

[Gimmesometruth]

all conservatives are MAGA?

The point is about you, and if you are walking and talking like a MAGA......the problem is not our perception.