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First Day Of Wisconsin Recount Nets Hillary One Vote

Except she did. Nice try.

Not so much.

Hillary Clinton to join recount that Trump calls 'scam' - CNNPolitics.com

Washington (CNN) — Hillary Clinton's campaign said Saturday it will take part in efforts to push for recounts in several key states, joining with Green Party candidate Jill Stein, who has raised millions of dollars to have votes counted again in Wisconsin.​

But really, your post suggested "At worst we're just following his precedent."

I guess there are some who won't follow hers, including Hillary herself.
 
Update on Stein's progress to disenfranchise three states worth of voters, or lack thereof.

Let's look at fundraising first (need moar monees):
Stein Recount Fundraising Goal Raised For Fourth Time
"Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein has yet again raised the fundraising goal for an attempted vote recount in three battleground states and is currently seeking $9.5 million for the effort.

Stein, who first called for recounts in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan on Nov. 23, initially sought $2.2 million for the effort. Once the goal was met, Stein increased the amount to $4.5 million. Shortly after, Stein said the total costs would hit $7 million. Stein has since upped the goal to $9.5 million."

Michigan:
Michigan AG Files Lawsuit Against Jill Stein's 'Frivilous' Recount Effort

"Michigan’s Republican attorney general filed a lawsuit on Friday to halt a vote recount attempt pursued in the state by Green Party presidential nominee Jill Stein.

“Michigan voters rejected Stein’s candidacy by massive margins but her refusal to accept that state-verified result poses an expensive and risky threat to hard-working taxpayers and abuses the intent of Michigan law,” Bill Schuette said in a statement, Politico reported.
“We have asked the court to end the recount which Stein is pursuing in violation of Michigan laws that protect the integrity of our elections. It is inexcusable for Stein to put Michigan voters at risk of paying millions and potentially losing their voice in the Electoral College in the process,” he continued."

Pennsylvania:
Pennsylvania recount: Trump, state GOP file to stop Jill Stein's effort
"Attorneys representing the party, the Trump campaign and his electors in PA filed Thursday in Commonwealth Court to dismiss a lawsuit brought by lawyers funded by Jill Stein. She’s the Green Party presidential candidate on a crusade to have statewide recounts performed in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin — all three swing states that were narrowly won by President-elect Trump. Earlier today, the Michigan attorney general sued to stop Stein’s efforts there."

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Hey!!! Don't count her out yet. Menominee county results showed 28 new votes and Stein got 17 of them. That boosted her total from Zero to 17 which, when you do the math, is roughly and improvement of infinity percent!
 
And that representation apparently doesn't represent well otherwise it wouldn't be over 2 million off.

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Perhaps you and yours shouldn't all concentrate yourselves into only a few states.

After all, the President is the chief administrator of a government which is a union of states. It is not a union of people. It never has been. States are unions of people. The federal government is not.
 
Well hey, would you look at that, proof that the notion of voter fraud, is a fraud itself. Glad we could get that settled.
 
You don't think winning by a 24% margin is big? I mean, it's even doubly so if you consider that he had almost zero support and a completely hostile media and no insider connections.
He also had no ground game and only spent about half as much money as she did.

Not to mention he broke her midwest firewall that was supposedly unbreakable.

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What do you mean by "country"? Because you clearly don't mean the people of said country. You are talking land mass instead of population. Therefore you prefer minority rule. This is quite apparent actually.



See... you want to represent land instead of people. Minority rule. Not surprising. Right wingers tend to love authoritarianism and sucking up to aristocracies so this ideology of yours fits rather neatly into that mold.
So your opposed to weighted scales to give the minority an equal voice as the majority?

Ild be curious to hear your positions on things like affirmative action and progressive taxes.

If you ask me the electrial college is the epitome of the lefist philosophy.

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Results googling "sanders campaigning for clinton"

Bernie busted his ass for her. She was a horrible and lazy candidate. Her strategy was the same as Gores where they thought their opposition was so bad that they'd just sit back and believed they would destroy themselves. Hillary has no one to blame but herself. As far as Stein, I couldn't give a rats ass about her politically.
The more hilliary spoke the more her numbers went down. Her best strategy was to lay low and hope for the best.

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Nah... you mean states rather than people.



Which is what congress-scritters are for. Not presidents.
Thats correct. The states elect the president not the people. He is the president of the united states.

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Perhaps you and yours shouldn't all concentrate yourselves into only a few states.

After all, the President is the chief administrator of a government which is a union of states. It is not a union of people. It never has been. States are unions of people. The federal government is not.

Look at you showing your sensitivity. You need to grow thicker skin.
 
Nope, just opposed to the minority ruling the majority.
Interesting how you chose to edit my post rather than address it in its entirety.

As for the selective response you did make. The majority of the states selected trump so you should be pleased with the system working as you think it should even if yould of preferred the other csndidate.

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Interesting how you chose to edit my post rather than address it in its entirety.

yep. The first part addressed the topic the rest was a tangent based on your opinion as off topic bait. I stuck with the topic we were discussing.

As for the selective response you did make. The majority of the states selected trump so you should be pleased with the system working as you think it should even if yould of preferred the other csndidate.

Nah. I don't and haven't ever liked the EC system. Pretty damn silly nonsense IMO. In a representative democracy, we don't need to elect representatives to elect those who represent us. Unecessary layer.
 
You're the one whining here.

To wit:

Just expressing my opinion on the EC which I don't like. And somehow that hurt your feelings. People have differing opinions on almost every topic. Don't let it get to you. I promise you, you will be OK.
 
Just expressing my opinion on the EC which I don't like. And somehow that hurt your feelings. People have differing opinions on almost every topic. Don't let it get to you. I promise you, you will be OK.

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We've reached full "I know you are, but what am I?"

You're whining about the EC. That's your problem. Not mine. Yours. Giggling at you about it does not constitute my feelings being hurt, though I guess that's what you'd prefer to think. Even though you don't actually think that; you're just being childish. Which I also giggle at you about. :lol:
 
Just expressing my opinion on the EC which I don't like. And somehow that hurt your feelings. People have differing opinions on almost every topic. Don't let it get to you. I promise you, you will be OK.

Partisan whine-fest with passive aggressive overtones. Your dislike for the EC is springing from it fulfilling its primary purpose: to give smaller states a voice and not allow large metros and large states to overwhelm a majority of states. Its purposefully designed to do that.
 
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We've reached full "I know you are, but what am I?"

You're whining about the EC. That's your problem. Not mine. Yours. Giggling at you about it does not constitute my feelings being hurt, though I guess that's what you'd prefer to think. Even though you don't actually think that; you're just being childish. Which I also giggle at you about. :lol:

What are you talking about?

I don't like the EC. I voiced my opposition to it and you called it whining and posted a crybaby pic. So apparently differing opinions hurt your feelings. Sorry about that. I'm sure you'll be OK though.
 
Partisan whine-fest with passive aggressive overtones. Your dislike for the EC is springing from it fulfilling its primary purpose: to give smaller states a voice and not allow large metros and large states to overwhelm a majority of states. Its purposefully designed to do that.

I'll just let you go through the thread and read what's been posted already. This is a rehash of already discussed areas.
 
I will take your word on it because i really cant find a clear explination bit it would not durprise me to find oit your wrong. The reason 270 is the magic number is because the citrent amount of total boyes is 538 and 270 is the majority. The majority is the standard not 270. 270 happens to be the majority but if the total electorial votes changed than 270 would not be the magic number anymore.

It would stand to reason that if WI lost its 10 votes than the total would change to 528 and the majority would than only be 264.

Btw do you have link explaining the rules and why the 270 threshold would not change?

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they would not go away because the number of seats do not change.
Stein sues to force recount by hand in Wis., files suit for Pa. recount

the only way 270 would change is if they added to or took away from the number of seats.
not getting your electorals counted does not reduce this number.

it isn't that WI loses it's 10 electorals they are just not counted. their house and senate seats stay where they are. they will still have 8 representatives and 2 senators.
 
What are you talking about?

I don't like the EC. I voiced my opposition to it and you called it whining and posted a crybaby pic. So apparently differing opinions hurt your feelings. Sorry about that. I'm sure you'll be OK though.

If that's the front you need to put up, I guess.

Sorry the election didn't go your way. Nominate someone better next time.
 
I'll just let you go through the thread and read what's been posted already. This is a rehash of already discussed areas.

Sure, why bother to address your wrongheaded partisanship at something doing exactly what its supposed to do, move along nothing to see here.
 
Sure, why bother to address your wrongheaded partisanship at something doing exactly what its supposed to do, move along nothing to see here.

If you want to know where I stand, just go back a few pages. Seriously. I don't care to redo it all over again just because you showed up late for supper.
 
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