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Firefighters Shot Dead at Upstate NY Fire



Then, perhaps you should have opted for clarity and said, 'they.' You did not. So now in addition to not reading, adding correctly, or expressing yourself correctly, your thinking is completely muddled. Try again. This one was an epic fail!

Put two and two together and maybe you can figure out the "you" was third person. Furthermore, post #97 should have cleared it up if you missed it. Now, may we get back to the discussion of incinerating or bludgeoning convicted murderers?
 
Indeed, but public policy is made by our elected representatives and is thus subject to change.

To some extent -- but that extent is limited, thank Bob. Every time elected officials get involved in the criminal justice business, all they do is make things worse.

Maybe, but it is still very rare for cases to go to trial regardless of type or level.

Absolutely true. If every case that was brought went to trial, the system would ground to a halt.

As for vast variation in sentences, for even the same crime, that is a fact I will not attempt to dispute; that too, requires justice sytem/law changes.

Again, depends on the crime at what level charges are brought at. Plenty of crimes have mandatory minimums or maximums, taking judgement calls out of the hands of judges.
 
Quote: "After you catch a rat in your trap in your basement you sure as hell don't let it go free."

But, I do.

After I caught them in the "no kill" trap I brought them to the wooded area and released them. In winter time I brought along some water and foods to the area where I let them go free so they could have a fighting chance for survival.

These are creatures doing what they are doing in nature for their survival. But this evil bastard, he was supposed to be a human being and instead he chose to go against his nature and chose to transform himself into a demonic monster. I say, let him fry. There will be no tears shed for him.
 

By that logic we won't have any killings if we just go ahead kill everyone off.
 
By that logic we won't have any killings if we just go ahead kill everyone off.

You are exaggerating the heck out of what I said. The ultimate objective here is to minimize the suffering of the innocent, which obviously isn't accomplished by what you said. With forensic science today, I hypothesize that the wrongful conviction rate of murder is lower than the number of repeat murderers. Furthermore, the number of victims of repeat offenders is obviously greater than the number of repeat offenders.
 

How is a "wrongful conviction rate of murder lower than the number of repeat murderers" an acceptable number for wrongful convictions, especially instates that have the death penalty?

Oh well, at least you're not trying to claim that with today's science the wrongful conviction rate is zero or practically zero.
 

Maybe I am exaggerating a bit. My bad. I just don't see the point in trying to justify executing an innocent person occasionally just to make sure we reguarly execute those that aren't innocent. I also don't see how to reconcile state sponsored murder. Doesn't make sense to me. I've seen no evidence that it would slow murders down. Especially when murders, even premeditated ones are done with an overly passionate mentality that consequences rarely seem to matter.
 
seems to me burning at the stake would be the appropriate death for someone who ambushes brave firefighters

And the firefighters can take turns trying to piss out the fire, while it is burning. LOL.
 
And the firefighters can take turns trying to piss out the fire, while it is burning. LOL.

hopefully after drinking large quantities of high proof cocktails!!
 
hopefully after drinking large quantities of high proof cocktails!!

Please, no talk of alcohol. I am still hung over from the after party at my gig yesterday. LOL.
 
Please, no talk of alcohol. I am still hung over from the after party at my gig yesterday. LOL.

but think of the good points-you could be a human flamethrower if you lit a bic in front of your johnson!!
 
All we need are more guns to take care of these sonsofguns.

How about a justice system that sentences murderers to more than 17 years? Maybe a dude that beat his mother to death with a claw hammer should have been sent to the electric chair? These murders wouldn't have happened, if that this goofball would have been snuffed years ago.
 

Most likely the prosecutor had some doubts about his ability to secure a conviction, so he offered manslaughter 1 as an incentive to forego a trial.
 
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