Finally, a Politician Admits to Having an Abortion Simply Because She Wasn’t [W:139]

[Thrilla]

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Lots of words that still seem to only make excuses and not change the actual meaning.

And I dont report people...I dont need to...I'm not bothered by 'opinions' of others here. THat's just silly and weak. I called it out because the insult was also silly and weak.

I can only type my words, I can't comprehend them for you... that's a weakness you'll have to work on in your spare time.

 

[Lursa]

Re: Finally, a Politician Admits to Having an Abortion Simply Because She Wasn’t Read

I can only type my words, I can't comprehend them for you... that's a weakness you'll have to work on in your spare time.

Hey, no problem. Like I said, there's always my sig, in green.

Let me know if you can get off the defensive victim' thing and return to actual discussion.

 

[Thrilla]

Re: Finally, a Politician Admits to Having an Abortion Simply Because She Wasn’t Read

You didnt write the comparison between abortion and those things? Did I create the quote I posted with your name on it? Hmmm. I guess I'll go get the post number to show your continued dishonesty....why you would invite such embarrassment is odd of course.

Edit: here ya go: post 103

let this be a lesson to you... you had better have the facts on your side before you make accusations of dishonesty.... in this case , you do not.

IT"S NOT A COMPARISON.. those are ACTUAL EVENTS SHE HAS ADMITTED TO.

She became involved with the local gangs, and spent months in juvenile detention after stealing a car.

Lucy Flores - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

“Lucy grew up as one of 13 children in a low-income Hispanic family. Her mother left home when she was 9 years old, and she was raised by her father. Lucy got involved with gangs and was sentenced to juvenile detention for stealing a car. She dropped out of high school, and at age 16 she became pregnant and had an abortion because she did not want to be a teenage mother like her sisters.

Can Lucy Flores save Harry Reid in 2016 race? | Las Vegas Review-Journal


as I have said, honesty is easy...and i do so enjoy doing things the easy way.
i'm sure an apology for your false charge of dishonesty is forthcoming... right?

 

[year2late]

Re: Finally, a Politician Admits to Having an Abortion Simply Because She Wasn’t [W:1

Good judgement comes from experience and a lot of experience comes from bad judgement.

It appears to me that this lady had a rough star in life, but she has soldiered on, worked hard and turned her life into a success story.

Best post on this thread. If this does not resonate with both sides, I do not know what will.

 

[Lursa]

Re: Finally, a Politician Admits to Having an Abortion Simply Because She Wasn’t Read

let this be a lesson to you... you had better have the facts on your side before you make accusations of dishonesty.... in this case , you do not.

IT"S NOT A COMPARISON.. those are ACTUAL EVENTS SHE HAS ADMITTED TO.


Lucy Flores - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Can Lucy Flores save Harry Reid in 2016 race? | Las Vegas Review-Journal


as I have said, honesty is easy...and i do so enjoy doing things the easy way.
i'm sure an apology for your false charge of dishonesty is forthcoming... right?

roflmao!

Lesson? How about someone teaches you to read properly? Those are descriptions of criminal acts that she was involved in.

YOU compared them to abortion. I'm not sure you could have made MY POINT any better...but you dont really get it, do you?

And I need a lesson? *snicker*

 

[Thrilla]

Re: Finally, a Politician Admits to Having an Abortion Simply Because She Wasn’t Read

Hey, no problem. Like I said, there's always my sig, in green.

Let me know if you can get off the defensive victim' thing and return to actual discussion.

ahh yes... i see how it works with you... you will go off half cocked, lie, make false claims, intentionally ignore pertinent facts.... then tell me to stop being a defensive victim

:lol:.. those with ****ty characters will always revel themselves.

 

[Thrilla]

Re: Finally, a Politician Admits to Having an Abortion Simply Because She Wasn’t Read

roflmao!

Lesson? How about someone teaches you to read properly? Those are descriptions of criminal acts that she was involved in.

YOU compared them to abortion. I'm not sure you could have made MY POINT any better...but you dont really get it, do you?

And I need a lesson? *snicker*

and now we all can see just how honest you really are..

have a great night, liar.

 

[Jerry]

Re: Finally, a Politician Admits to Having an Abortion Simply Because She Wasn’t [W:1

And what's wrong with judging events and decisions someone chose to tell you about?

 

[year2late]

Re: Finally, a Politician Admits to Having an Abortion Simply Because She Wasn’t [W:1

And what's wrong with judging events and decisions someone chose to tell you about?

We all judge. It is our nature.

I just wish there could be an attempt at reasonable judgment that includes context of the situation.

The context is that she disclosed that she had an abortion as a teen in the context of a debate regarding sex education in schools. She wanted improved sex education in schools and she put her self out there as an example.

Several folks on this thread judge those who approved of her response as "applauding abortion". When in reality, it was clear that she was on the side of preventing unwanted pregnancies through improved education.

 

[Lursa]

Re: Finally, a Politician Admits to Having an Abortion Simply Because She Wasn’t Read

and now we all can see just how honest you really are..

have a great night, liar.

Hey, you posted it. It's there for all to see.

I'm not the liar.

My night is just fine...I'm packing to go camping

 

[Lursa]

Re: Finally, a Politician Admits to Having an Abortion Simply Because She Wasn’t Read

ahh yes... i see how it works with you... you will go off half cocked, lie, make false claims, intentionally ignore pertinent facts.... then tell me to stop being a defensive victim

:lol:.. those with ****ty characters will always revel themselves.

I've revealed everything, pulled no punches, hidden nothing. Never do, no point on the anonymous Internet.

Like I said...it's all there for everyone to read. You got awfully defensive when finally called on the carpet...I didnt. You called me a liar, ****ty, and a retard. Hmmmmm.

As I said, if you can, come back with actual content on the thread. Or not.

 

[Thrilla]

Re: Finally, a Politician Admits to Having an Abortion Simply Because She Wasn’t Read

Hey, you posted it. It's there for all to see.

I'm not the liar.

My night is just fine...I'm packing to go camping

yes, you are a liar.... you've purposefully made false claims... that is called "lying"

have fun camping.

 

[Thrilla]

Re: Finally, a Politician Admits to Having an Abortion Simply Because She Wasn’t Read

I've revealed everything, pulled no punches, hidden nothing. Never do, no point on the anonymous Internet.

Like I said...it's all there for everyone to read. You got awfully defensive when finally called on the carpet...I didnt. You called me a liar, ****ty, and a retard. Hmmmmm.

As I said, if you can, come back with actual content on the thread. Or not.

correction, you dishonestly called me on the carpet.... you have repeatedly lied... I do not respond kindly to lies or liars, never have, never will.

you certainly have not pulled punches, that's true...unfortunately your ""punches" were based on false claims, though....



i'll not speak on the topic with you anymore...there's nothing to be learned from you.
everyone else is doing just fine.. i'll chat with them instead... at least they aren't being dishonest.

 

[VanceMack]

Re: Finally, a Politician Admits to Having an Abortion Simply Because She Wasn’t Read

Is divorce a good thing? No but that difficult decision is made with the intention that the future will be better, that in the long run, it is the best thing to do. It's painful and unpleasant but people hope that things are better on the other side.

There's no butchering in abortion, so the attempts at emotional blackmail must be aimed at the uneducated. Embryos are flushed, painlessly (for them) and unknowingly out of the womb. That's not butchering nor does it involve children.

Divorces suck but very rarely end up in one or the other individual being chopped into pieces and sucked up with a vaccuum.

No butchering? Reeeeeaaaaallllllyyyyyyyy? Would you like to see the pictures?

 

[CanadaJohn]

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Given how I've seen women who do treated in debate venues, I don't blame those who don't for not wanting to disclose it.

As Eleanor Roosevelt famously said "no one can make you feel inferior, unless you let them".

 

[nota bene]

Re: Finally, a Politician Admits to Having an Abortion Simply Because She Wasn’t Read

There ya go judging again. Her life and all her accomplishments...current and future...mean nothing to you compared with something unborn.

You wouldnt 'forgive' her for coming clean anyway...dont bother lying. Not that she or anyone else gives a damn about your judgement or forgiveness. All good Christians know that that is up to God alone.

You have a lot of dishonest nerve in making the accusations you have here. I stated at the beginning of my post which you quoted that I think Flores’s story is “inspirational.” Out of this all you got was that I am “judging” and, further, that none of her accomplishments mean anything in comparison to her unborn child. That is not what I said, and I did say exactly what I meant.

Your own agenda is so very important that you cast aside what I actually said and make up what I didn’t say. Examine your own agenda and your bizarre personal animus toward me. You have taken what I said and twisted it into my judging and being “unforgiving.”

Can't your opinions stand on their own without such dishonesty? Concern yourself with your own nasty projections and your instruction to me not to “bother lying, " which implies, of course, that I am a liar.

Poorly and dishonestly played.

 

[year2late]

Re: Finally, a Politician Admits to Having an Abortion Simply Because She Wasn’t Read

As Eleanor Roosevelt famously said "no one can make you feel inferior, unless you let them".

If only all women were as strong as Eleanor.

 

[tres borrachos]

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I agree it is not applause worthy. But I do have to wonder what her life would be like if she continued the pregnancy. A teenage single mother.

Her life would probably not have been a good one, and unless she gave the child up for adoption, his/her life would more than likely be lousy too, with the problems from the mother's generation simply repeating themselves.

 

[tres borrachos]

Re: Finally, a Politician Admits to Having an Abortion Simply Because She Wasn’t Read

If only all women were as strong as Eleanor.

She was a tough old broad.

 

[minnie616]

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so her decision is all about deciding to be honest eh?.... honest about what?


tell the truth now... if she came out and told the god's honest truth and said " I went ahead and had my baby".. would we be having this discussion?... would you laud her as a hero or as being brave?

Bristol Palin had her baby.

Didn't a lot of people publicly laud her as hero or say she was brave?

 

[year2late]

Re: Finally, a Politician Admits to Having an Abortion Simply Because She Wasn’t Read

Her life would probably not have been a good one, and unless she gave the child up for adoption, his/her life would more than likely be lousy too, with the problems from the mother's generation simply repeating themselves.

And in a debate she acknowledge her abortion as a way to show the need for improved sex education in schools.

Flores admitted that she had an abortion at 16 during a debate over a bill to improve sex education in schools

One may disagree that improved sex education would help, but her intent was clear. She was taking own negative experience (having an abortion) and using it in the debate to show to a positive end -educating and preventing unwanted pregnancy.

 

[tres borrachos]

Re: Finally, a Politician Admits to Having an Abortion Simply Because She Wasn’t Read

And in a debate she acknowledge her abortion as a way to show the need for improved sex education in schools.



One may disagree that improved sex education would help, but her intent was clear. She was taking own negative experience (having an abortion) and using it in the debate to show to a positive end -educating and preventing unwanted pregnancy.

It sounds as if the argument is an either/or. Either you provide sex education in schools, or else teenagers will have abortions. Sorry, I don't buy that.

We already have sex education in schools. I have 3 kids and they've been getting sex ed for years. They all know now that sex can result in pregnancy. My suspicion is that Flores also knew that before she had unprotected sex as a 15 year old. When I was 15 back in the late 1970s, I knew it.

I'm glad she's turned her life around, but can't applaud her for not paying attention when she was a teen.

 

[tres borrachos]

Re: Finally, a Politician Admits to Having an Abortion Simply Because She Wasn’t Read

Bristol Palin had her baby.

Didn't a lot of people publicly laud her as hero or say she was brave?

I didn't. I said she was stupid. She wasn't careful. She knew better.

 

[JayDubya]

Re: Finally, a Politician Admits to Having an Abortion Simply Because She Wasn’t Read

Her life would probably not have been a good one, and unless she gave the child up for adoption, his/her life would more than likely be lousy too, with the problems from the mother's generation simply repeating themselves.

Have you ever asked folks given up for adoption as kids how much they agree with the notion that they'd be better off dead on the presumption that they may have had a ****ty life? I have. Funnily enough they're unfond of the notion.

This should be intuitively obvious, as of course they're breathing and talking to you, having not agreed with the notion that they'd be better off dead.

 

[JayDubya]

Re: Finally, a Politician Admits to Having an Abortion Simply Because She Wasn’t Read

What an idiotic conclusion..Just because she is admired for her courage, strength and honesty does not mean that we are applauding the abortion itself and only an idiot would think otherwise..

On the contrary, "only an idiot" would not realize that the LWNJ blogger, that OP, and everyone who liked that post is cheerleading for abortion itself.

And only someone with a complete lack of moral fiber could ever consider this monster to be courageous or applaud confessing to a homicide when they are immune to legal consequences.

By that standard, we should applaud O.J. Simpson's honesty in writing "If I Did It." Not going to be doing that anytime soon, myself.