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Except this isn't about his eligibility directly, it's about a news story that relates to that.
Standard request from the Reality Based community. All other birther threads on this forum before this last week have all been moved to the conspiracy theory thread where they belong.
Except this isn't about his eligibility directly, it's about a news story that relates to that.
You're new here epic but to my knowledge even news stories about birthers have been moved down to the conspiracy thread. As for your article. The birther met with a panel of 3 in a small town. It was not the full grand jury as the article said and was procedural. He seemed pretty pissed when he left as well.
And again you have nothing of substance to add.zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...
Would you like some cheese with that whine?This thread needs to be moved to the conspiracy theory section.
False.All other birther threads on this forum before this last week have all been moved to the conspiracy theory thread where they belong.
It was completely backasswards.Nothing assbackward about it.
Not only false but a mischaracterization as well.Coolguy keeps posting the same **** to new people because somehow he thinks he can fool the new guys.
Wrong, inaccurate, false, a lie, take your pick.... he's been beaten down with his whacked out conspiracy theories in the conspiracy theory section over and over again.
As I have previously said to you;Actually, the case you sited does define NBC…. Let’s look at the word “nomenclature”.
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So we can see this passage of that opinion that states: "with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar," means that we can look to an author of the constitution, and to the 1st Congress for the meaning of NBC... so let's do that.
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Seems pretty clear what the Nomenclature of the "Natural Born Citizen" clause of our constitution means..... and Judge Waite knew it.
Do you have a link?As for your article. The birther met with a panel of 3 in a small town. It was not the full grand jury as the article said and was procedural. He seemed pretty pissed when he left as well.
No this was not explained away by anybody, especially you.Yeah "coolguy" had this explained to him already down in the conspiracy theory threads he just keeps posting the same crap to different people as if he doesn't know this **** was explained.
88 U.S. 162
Minor v. Happersett
Argued: February 9, 1875 --- Decided: March 29, 1875
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The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their [p168] parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case it is not necessary to solve these doubts. It is sufficient for everything we have now to consider that all children born of citizen parents within the jurisdiction are themselves citizens. The words "all children" are certainly as comprehensive, when used in this connection, as "all persons," and if females are included in the last they must be in the first. That they are included in the last is not denied. In fact the whole argument of the plaintiffs proceeds upon that idea.
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Minor v. Happersett
Yes you did say this before and you were also told then that you were incorrect.As I've said before, ... Once an individual becomes the President-elect, Congress and only Congress can question his (or her) qualifications to be President or remove the individual from office per the Constitution (short of the individual resigning, of course ...).
I find it funny that the only time i ever see you posting has to do with conspiracy theories and birther threads. You keep posting the same wrong information over and over again as if you think you can fool the new people. Ill give you an example. A post recently claiming natural born means born of two citizens et the passage posted stated it only applies to chldren born overseas. Yes this is a conspiracy theory you think somehow his parents plotted to secretly install him as president all those years ago. Somehow the state of hawaii which is run by a republican, multiple states all the courts these cases are submitted to, the supreme court are in collusion in this coverup. One of your birther heroes, Orly Taitz, is in trouble now because she was trying to get people to lie in her affidavits and not tell the truth. Now "coolguy" do you have any proof that he wasnt born here or isnt natural born because so far the evidence points to him being.And again you have nothing of substance to add.
Just one of the typical behaviors of a person who can not make a valid rebuttal.
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Would you like some cheese with that whine?
1.) It probably will be.
2.) Contrary to your belief, it isn't Conspiracy. Even if moved.
3.) It is a valid issue that you can not show to be invalid.
More false statements I see.
False.
It was completely backasswards.
Not only false but a mischaracterization as well.
I look at what is being said, not at the poster, or how new they are or aren't. :doh
In this topic I asked a person a question and they replied with an answer that was not only non-responsive to the question, but totally inaccurate.
Wrong, inaccurate, false, a lie, take your pick.
They all fit because I have never been beaten down and this legitimate issue isn't a whacked out conspiracy theory, nor does it belong to me.
Man this guy is nuts. I wonder why, I haven't heard this on the news.
do you have any court cases establishing precedence to back up your claims coolguy?As I have previously said to you;"... it does not mean it is proven that this is exactly what our Founding Fathers or Framers meant.A Court could very well find that they didn't define it and make a finding that the Founders meant something different then what we have argued.
The proof would come in how our Court would decide their actual intent."
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Do you have a link?
No this was not explained away by anybody, especially you.
So either you are mistaken or deliberately telling an untruth. Which is it?
Better yet.
Why don't you provide a link/s to the exact post/s where the following was explained away to back up your statement or admit you are wrong.
Heck, refute it yourself.
But already knowing that you can't, I would suggest that you just admit your statement was wrong.
Did you get that, or should I repeat it?
It hasn't been fully defined.
And if the Fourteenth Amendment applied that is where the Court would have turned, instead of saying the Constitution doesn't define it and turning elsewhere.
This is a legitimate issue.
Now refute it.
Oh, I forgot. You can't. :rofl
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Yes you did say this before and you were also told then that you were incorrect.
But I see you didn't pay attention, which makes you just as incorrect now.
Congress delegated that authority to the District Court of the District of Columbia, to hear the writ of 'Quo warranto', which is specifically designed to remove a usurper from office.
This doesn't preclude other Courts from hearing cases on other issues if they have jurisdiction and the plaintiff has standing.
Any findings or discovery that was detrimental to Obama from these cases would then be forwarded to the AG who should then, if warranted, file 'Quo warranto' proceedings.
As for this Treason Charge making any headway where it is at. I doubt it, even if they charged him.
What would be funny is if any indictments made were sealed. It would have the effect of bringing the issue more coverage.
:rofl Yes I am, but it does always seems like the bither's are wackjobs that needs their tinfoil hats removed.
his tin foil hat is tuned into the wrong frequency you gotta switch to the am bandYou're not tuning in to the right news.:2razz:
his tin foil hat is tuned into the wrong frequency you gotta switch to the am band
I honestly think that this case is pretty much a joke.
Its likely that Barack Obama is a legal citizen of this country, IMO he just isn't a Natural Born Citizen. If the courts or Congress made the determination that Barack wasn't an NBC, I don't think he would really be guilty of anything. It's unlikely that Congress would try to do such a thing as defining a term that has been in our legal system 200+ years undefined. It's pretty unlikely that the courts would rule on what the definition of what a NBC is for pretty much the same reason.
Now if somebody was to prove that Barack Obama wasn't a legal citizen - an alien in the highest seat of power in the land, then I would prefer a military tribunal for him.:mrgreen:
His mother was an american, and he was born in AMERICA. The law required you to have a parent that is an american, and be born here in AMERICA. TO be a Natural born CITZEN
I find anyone crazy, or just a bigot to think he wasn't born here.
Oh my Dear God in Heaven not this again. Do you believe the earth is flat and we never went to the moon?! For God's sake! This is so ludicrous the supreme court refused to waste their time on it. Get over it. McCain and Caribou Barbee lost. Obama's our president now!
Now you have broken in and entered the White House by force of contrivance, concealment, conceit, dissembling, and deceit. Posing as an impostor president and commander in chief you have stripped civilian command and control over the military establishment. Known military criminal actors—command racketeers—are now free in the exercise of military government intent upon destruction of America’s constitutional government.
Free from constitutional restraint, and following your criminal example, military commanders deployed U.S. Army active duty combat troops into the small civilian community of Samson, Alabama last week in a demonstration of their newly received despotic, domestic police power.
He is not nuts yet. He is merely jumping the gun. He should first deal with the war crimes commited by Bush and Cheney.
Standard request any time Barry's eligibility comes up... right out of the lib's play book.
More birther nonsense. The proof has been provided, the retards just don't like it.
I'm only coming into this thread to grab a seat, start eating my popcorn, and watch RightatNYU enter the thread and completely destroy you guys again, just like he did last time this particular silly argument was made. :mrgreen:
That's what I've been saying all along.... you retards just won't look at the evidence, but keep spouting your ignorant, uninformed bile. Thanx for admitting it. :thumbs:
That's what I've been saying all along.... you retards just won't look at the evidence, but keep spouting your ignorant, uninformed bile. Thanx for admitting it. :thumbs:
I'm only coming into this thread to grab a seat, start eating my popcorn, and watch RightatNYU enter the thread and completely destroy you guys again, just like he did last time this particular silly argument was made. :mrgreen:
I was typing fast, and yes I did, when I heard about. I think anyone is crazy that says Obama isn't born in Honolulu, and the people that want to bring bush up on war crimes. I think some of the people who actually did the crimes needs to be brought in for justice thought.
I am going to go out on a limb here and say that I think the Supreme Court is more aware of the issue than you are. They saw no case in challenging Obama's qualifications.
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