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Fifty seven percent

HennyBogan said:
Trump or any President can’t lawfully tell anyone to wear a mask! He did recommend people wear one! Fauci is a fraud, sheepie follow idiots like Fauci ( he is it for the $$ ), a total scumbag, not surprised leftist D’s love him as he fits right into their crowd. Now please explain scientifically how 1 person can stop a coronavirus!! Keep digging
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On what date did Trump make this recommendation? And has he faithfully been loyal to his own words?

Fauci is a respected doctor and scientist.
 
haymarket said:
I am not sure as it depends on what he said and how he said it. Please be specific.
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Paraphrased: With some exceptions (e.g. at-risk individuals), if you can grocery shop, you can vote in person following COVID guidelines (e.g. social distance, masks, etc.).


Source found here

Dr. Anthony Fauci, the longtime director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said this week he believed Americans should be able to safely cast a ballot in-person, so long as they follow necessary social distancing protocols.

"I think if carefully done, according to the guidelines, there's no reason that I can see why that not be the case," he told ABC News' Deborah Roberts during a National Geographic event Thursday.

Fauci compared the safety of casting a ballot in person to that of an in-person shopping trip to the grocery store in "counties and cities that are doing it correctly."

"They have X's every six or more feet," he added. "And it says, 'Don't leave this spot until the person in front of you left their spot.' And you can do that, if you go and wear a mask, if you observe the physical distancing, and don't have a crowded situation, there's no reason why you shouldn't be able to do that."
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jotathought said:
Trump doesn't grocery shop.
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I will add that to the other things he cannot do such as run the country, look out for the American people, and be a decent person who cares.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
The death toll is acceptable. It’s reality. The fact of the number of people who died is something you logically can only accept.

Do you accept that the titanic is at bottom of the ocean?
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The captain went down with the sucker because either the captain saves the ship and everyone on it or he dies trying.

CV-19 is Trump's iceberg.

The captain is responsible for the ship and everyone on it. Yet Trump's idiot solution is to take Lysol and jump overboard.
 
bongsaway said:
That's the percentage of republicans who think the death toll from covid in america is acceptable.

Think about this, not even ten percent of our population has been infected. What if that number jumps to thirty percent? Would the death toll still be acceptable to republicans?

And now the right wants your kids to go back to school. Heartwarming no?
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Think about this, not even ten percent of our population has been infected
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Hold that thought


And now the right wants your kids to go back to school.
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Healthy kids(majority) are least effected by the virus(wink)
 
haymarket said:
57 percent accept over 175,000 dead when it did not have to happen this way. Just completely disgusting.
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when it did not have to happen this way
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Yes like self destructing are own selves and sending out $1,200 checks out to even people who didn't even need it

Wow!
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
Yeah and I bet 99% of them consider themselves 'pro-life'.. More Republican hypocrisy..
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Trust me buddy, you do not want to compare abortion numbers to coroviris deaths
 
bongsaway said:
That's the percentage of republicans who think the death toll from covid in america is acceptable.

Think about this, not even ten percent of our population has been infected. What if that number jumps to thirty percent? Would the death toll still be acceptable to republicans?

And now the right wants your kids to go back to school. Heartwarming no?
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Well, tbf, the majority of deaths occurs among the older, most of whom collect social security benefits. Republicans are thinking about how much money this will save! Not to mention no more Medicare for health care to a dead person.
 
Luther said:
Well, how about on the Topic of in person voting?(LOL) Fauci says there is '''no reason''' Americans can'''t vote in person in November | Fox News
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Well how 'bout it???

If you read the article Dr. Fauci's comments have a lot of footnotes. One is this applies only to healthy adults. The actual mechanics of the process does offer a wide variety of issues. The social distancing of booths, their disinfecting between voters, handling voting materials, and the age of the election clerks and officials.

My county uses paper ballots, pen and a collection machine. Simple things like signing the book, the cleanliness of the pen- do we bring own own? have an official disinfect each pen after use? How are the paper ballots safely handled? Who cleans the voter booths between use? How much more time does this add to the process causing longer lines and more chance of infection.

Our clerks are over 70 years old, are they going to still be there facing hundreds of voters, handling the voter logs, issuing pen and ballot??? Now in some areas, chronic delays from the equipment already throw the process into chaos, imagine replacement clerks and officials coupled with social distancing issues.

In theory it is quite possible for healthy properly prepared adults to cast ballots in a properly run polling place. In practice a prudent system manager would develop a suitable alternate voting method. Mail-in has a good track record, expanding it would be a far safer way for a large segment of the voter community to exercise the right to vote... :peace
 
notquiteright said:
Well how 'bout it???

If you read the article Dr. Fauci's comments have a lot of footnotes. One is this applies only to healthy adults. The actual mechanics of the process does offer a wide variety of issues. The social distancing of booths, their disinfecting between voters, handling voting materials, and the age of the election clerks and officials.

My county uses paper ballots, pen and a collection machine. Simple things like signing the book, the cleanliness of the pen- do we bring own own? have an official disinfect each pen after use? How are the paper ballots safely handled? Who cleans the voter booths between use? How much more time does this add to the process causing longer lines and more chance of infection.

Our clerks are over 70 years old, are they going to still be there facing hundreds of voters, handling the voter logs, issuing pen and ballot??? Now in some areas, chronic delays from the equipment already throw the process into chaos, imagine replacement clerks and officials coupled with social distancing issues.

In theory it is quite possible for healthy properly prepared adults to cast ballots in a properly run polling place. In practice a prudent system manager would develop a suitable alternate voting method. Mail-in has a good track record, expanding it would be a far safer way for a large segment of the voter community to exercise the right to vote... :peace
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The social distancing of booths, their disinfecting between voters, handling voting materials, and the age of the election clerks and officials.
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All doable

Next
 
Luther said:
We'll put you down for yes
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We??? You got a mouse in your pocket??? :doh

You ignore the myriad of obvious problems with a tRumpesque non answer as if there is some magic wand to replace the thousands of elderly poll workers, ignore the disinfecting issues, refuse to admit Dr. Fauci only addresses the healthy adults, and not the problems social distancing creates in the confines of the polling place.

A far more realistic answer to your flippant 'very doeable' is for millions of registered voters it isn't very doable and other options are required... :peace
 
notquiteright said:
We??? You got a mouse in your pocket??? :doh

You ignore the myriad of obvious problems with a tRumpesque non answer as if there is some magic wand to replace the thousands of elderly poll workers, ignore the disinfecting issues, refuse to admit Dr. Fauci only addresses the healthy adults, and not the problems social distancing creates in the confines of the polling place.

A far more realistic answer to your flippant 'very doeable' is for millions of registered voters it isn't very doable and other options are required... :peace
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I'm sticking to it(wink)
 
haymarket said:
Expertise in one specific area does not give a person expertise in quite different areas. The exception of course is politics and government. There anyone can hold forth on the stage over the most learned political scientist.
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Expertise in one specific area does not give a person expertise in quite different areas.
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What do you mean?

In relation to what I wrote?
 
Luther said:
What do you mean?

In relation to what I wrote?
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When I graduated from college with a major in political science, a particular tough professor reminded us that our degree meant virtually nothing as even a barber, ditch digger, janitor or waitress felt it was their American right to have their opinion count just as much - perhaps even more - than ours in matters that we studied for at least four years in college that they did not. He reminded us that the brother-in-law who sells insurance feels his opinion on politics is just as good as ours.

Think about it for a minute. If we were talking about a medical issue and one in our midst was a doctor who had practiced for 25 years - we would defer to him or her.

If we were talking about the performance of furnace systems in homes and one amongst us owned and operated a heating and cooling business - we would defer to him or her.

But not politics or government. Joe Blow feels his opinion is just as good as any college professor.

That was the point of my observation.
 
bongsaway said:
That's the percentage of republicans who think the death toll from covid in america is acceptable.

Think about this, not even ten percent of our population has been infected. What if that number jumps to thirty percent? Would the death toll still be acceptable to republicans?

And now the right wants your kids to go back to school. Heartwarming no?
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What the right want's and what the people want are two very different things. Florida teachers union wins in court suing DeSantis over forcing schools to re-open.
 
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