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FEMA frustrated by drop in ND flood policies

Jerry said:
Say more than the title. Add more words.

What policies? Why should anyone care about this? Add your own original content please.
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The title is self-explanatory. If you're interested you'll read it, if you're not interested you won't. Otherwise, keep your directions to yourself. I have literally zero interest in how you think I should start threads.
 
Well on the plus side, maybe a lot of them will not be able to afford rebuilding in a freaking high risk flood zone and have the government pay to give them freaking new stuff every couple years without the insurance.
 
So FEMA does not like North Dakota's food for some reason. I am not a big fan of english food myself, but pot pies are good. I did not actually know North Dakota had any regional food specialties that would be this important to make national news, nor that FEMA even addressed their employees preferences towards regional policies on food. My favorite policy on food is to put hot sauce on everything because then you don't have to worry about your stuff dissapearing from the refrigerator at work. Oh, and never use Curry in anything. I hate the stuff.

Why were we discussing this again?
 
tererun said:
So FEMA does not like North Dakota's food for some reason. I am not a big fan of english food myself, but pot pies are good. I did not actually know North Dakota had any regional food specialties that would be this important to make national news, nor that FEMA even addressed their employees preferences towards regional policies on food. My favorite policy on food is to put hot sauce on everything because then you don't have to worry about your stuff dissapearing from the refrigerator at work. Oh, and never use Curry in anything. I hate the stuff.

Why were we discussing this again?
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the article is about floods, not foods
 
radcen said:
The title is self-explanatory. If you're interested you'll read it, if you're not interested you won't. Otherwise, keep your directions to yourself. I have literally zero interest in how you think I should start threads.
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The article/OP is supposed to spark a conversation. Placing a headline without any kind of statement or opinion whatsoever isn't a very good starting off point.

Why are you on this site if you're only interested in reading news?

Google News
 
This presents a problem-
If it was New Orleans, or Detroit, even some favorite place to mock Chicago then I could see the usual suspects lined up to denounce the nanny staters. But it is North Dakota, a strong hold of rugged individualism and the GOP. Difficult to imagine these folks as shirking their responsibilities.

Now after New Orleans and Hurricanes damage along the Jersey Shore some 'conservatives' opined if they want to live in so vulnerable a place...

Wonder if they will say the same thing about 'conservative' Minot or Fargo?
 
notquiteright said:
This presents a problem-
If it was New Orleans, or Detroit, even some favorite place to mock Chicago then I could see the usual suspects lined up to denounce the nanny staters. But it is North Dakota, a strong hold of rugged individualism and the GOP. Difficult to imagine these folks as shirking their responsibilities.

Now after New Orleans and Hurricanes damage along the Jersey Shore some 'conservatives' opined if they want to live in so vulnerable a place...

Wonder if they will say the same thing about 'conservative' Minot or Fargo?
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That area of ND, though, actually floods probably more often than many of the other places you listed.

Your points are valid, but there's another angle, too. If it were a small town that frequently floods, the government has started telling those people they need to move, or else no more future aid. The government seems less willing to do so with larger cities. Granted, large cities don't move easily, but it would seem that they could study the areas and still require it for the worst of the worst areas closest to the rivers.
 
radcen said:
The title is self-explanatory. If you're interested you'll read it, if you're not interested you won't. Otherwise, keep your directions to yourself. I have literally zero interest in how you think I should start threads.
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Evidently I'm not the only member who dislikes your lazy OPs. Put some effort into it.
 
tererun said:
So FEMA does not like North Dakota's food for some reason. I am not a big fan of english food myself, but pot pies are good. I did not actually know North Dakota had any regional food specialties that would be this important to make national news, nor that FEMA even addressed their employees preferences towards regional policies on food. My favorite policy on food is to put hot sauce on everything because then you don't have to worry about your stuff dissapearing from the refrigerator at work. Oh, and never use Curry in anything. I hate the stuff.

Why were we discussing this again?
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I live in SD and I'm not aware that ND has any regional food any different from the rest of the country. I have no idea what the problem is.
 
radcen said:
Define "effort".
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Effort - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

If you bookmark the link you can find definitions for any other words you don't know for yourself instead of having to ask people.

Give your OPs a "serious attempt". All you did was repeat the exact same sentence 3 times. How redundant. That's not what this website is here for. We're here to debate and discuss. So...debate and discuss. A better OP would be to include a quote from the article and about a paragraph of your own words expressing your opinion on the topic. Your OP should give the casual reader a fair idea of what's going on and what you think about it before anyone clicks on the link for further information. Bonus points for including a poll, picture, and additional complimentary links to related articles on the topic. Remember to play with fonts, colors and sizes to make your words easier on the eyes and more enjoyable to read.

  • That there are floods in ND is by itself news to me. I didn't know that. What's going on with the floods?
  • Since I didn't know there were floods in ND, I didn't know FEMA was involved in any way. What roll is FEMA trying to play?
  • What were the flood policies?
  • In what way were flood policies dropped? Was coverage reduced in some way (and if so, in what way) or were policies canceled?
  • Did FEMA have a spokesperson speak to the media? If so, what did they say?

Your OP should be able to tell the casual reader all of this in your own words before they click on any link. That's "effort".
 
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Jerry said:
Effort - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

If you bookmark the link you can find definitions for any other words you don't know for yourself instead of having to ask people.

Give your OPs a "serious attempt". All you did was repeat the exact same sentence 3 times. How redundant. That's not what this website is here for. We're here to debate and discuss. So...debate and discuss. A better OP would be to include a quote from the article and about a paragraph of your own words expressing your opinion on the topic. Your OP should give the casual reader a fair idea of what's going on and what you think about it before anyone clicks on the link for further information. Bonus points for including a poll, picture, and additional complimentary links to related articles on the topic. Remember to play with fonts, colors and sizes to make your words easier on the eyes and more enjoyable to read.

  • That there are floods in ND is by itself news to me. I didn't know that. What's going on with the floods?
  • Since I didn't know there were floods in ND, I didn't know FEMA was involved in any way. What roll is FEMA trying to play?
  • What were the flood policies?
  • In what way were flood policies dropped? Was coverage reduced in some way (and if so, in what way) or were policies canceled?
  • Did FEMA have a spokesperson speak to the media? If so, what did they say?

Your OP should be able to tell the casual reader all of this in your own words before they click on any link. That's "effort".
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It's sad that you put far more effort into explaining effort than he did for the OP. I hope radcen doesn't turn into Longknife, who just spams the board with every news article he reads, providing near zero commentary in the process.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
It's sad that you put far more effort into explaining effort than he did for the OP. I hope radcen doesn't turn into Longknife, who just spams the board with every news article he reads, providing near zero commentary in the process.
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I belong to forums where 1-liner OPs get the thread deleted and you infraction points. I wish DP would do the same.
 
radcen said:
FEMA frustrated by drop in ND flood policies

FEMA frustrated by drop in ND flood policies
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This is how I would make the OP for this thread; this is what my OPs generally look like...pick out what you want, or not....


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FEMA frustrated by drop in ND flood policies
By DAVE KOLPACK | Associated Press – 21 hrs ago

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FARGO, N.D. (AP) — As North Dakota faces another possible major flood this spring, federal officials are frustrated by the number of people in the state who lack insurance for such a disaster.


Along the Red River and its tributaries, in flood-prone Fargo and Cass County, the number of insurance policies dropped by more than 40 percent from 2011 to 2012, FEMA officials said. Residents there have battled flooding in for five of the last seven years.


"It's an amazing phenomenon how people can go through these things, then drop their flood insurance and try to buy it back in time," FEMA spokesman Dave Kyner said. "I guess that's one of the most frustrating things for us here."


Flood policies in all of North Dakota declined 32 percent, which coincided with a dry year throughout the state.
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IMO you should have flood insurance if you live in a flood area. That every ND home isn't already required to have flood insurance surprises me. Given ND's flood history, does anyone know if the policy's premium have simply become to much for homeowner's to afford?


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If I cared deeply about this OP I would look into information on the kinds of flood insurance offered in ND. But, as I've read the article, I realize that I don't care about the topic. There's no where to go with it.
 
Fisher said:
Well on the plus side, maybe a lot of them will not be able to afford rebuilding in a freaking high risk flood zone and have the government pay to give them freaking new stuff every couple years without the insurance.
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nope. won't happen
the federal disaster program will fund uninsured losses in the form of dasaster loans (up to the point repayment ability at 4% interest is indicated)
but a condition of that loan is that the property must thereafter have uninterrupted flood insurance coverage. if the property owners allow it to lapse, then they become ineligible for future federal disaster financial assistance
 
justabubba said:
nope. won't happen
the federal disaster program will fund uninsured losses in the form of dasaster loans (up to the point repayment ability at 4% interest is indicated)
but a condition of that loan is that the property must thereafter have uninterrupted flood insurance coverage. if the property owners allow it to lapse, then they become ineligible for future federal disaster financial assistance
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The condition of pretty much every home loan in the US requires flood insurance if you live in a flood plain. I think the program needs to end. Build in a flood plain at your own risk. It isn't like there aren't maps that tell you if you are in a flood plain.
 
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